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[Baffler]

I'm not sure if you're serious or not but one of the major propaganda drives those groups make is saying that western countries want to do exactly that, playing on resentment from when it happened before, or both. Proving them right would be counterproductive to say the least.

[hector13]

I do believe OW was indulging in a shitpost.

[Baffler]

Oh. I'll just see myself out then.

*Grumbles incoherently about text and tone-deafness*

[Helgoland]

Libya is a good example. Civil war against Gadaffi, the West bombed the shit out them, massive political vacuum, vague promises of "yeah we'll help you sort yourselves out after elections" then just left them to it. Last I checked (a while back) there were two groups claiming legitimacy for government, one of which was religious in nature.

Things are actually starting to look better. And the West is indeed helping - SAS forces are aiding the fight against the Libyan IS branch, for example.

[martinuzz]

You call that "starting to look better"?

IS got a foothold there in the first place because we left them to rot in a power vacuum after 'supporting' them to get rid of Kadhaffi.

[scrdest]

You call that "starting to look better"?

IS got a foothold there in the first place because we left them to rot in a power vacuum after 'supporting' them to get rid of Kadhaffi.

Well, by that measure, unless Time Rangers are deployed, it's not gonna get better ever, isn't it?

[Loud Whispers]

Hey, when was the last time Hizbullah gassed civilians?

Also, the US IS fighting IS on the ground, in a limited capacity, within Iraq. Mostly artillery support though (which I guess can still be framed as "dropping bombs from above".)


Edit: The Austrian presidential election results is overturned after court find some postal ballots haven't been appropriately handled. New election to be help in september or october.

Oh shit, the Austrians weren't lying

It does not look like anyone except iran and syria want to really engage isis in any way except dropping few bombs from above.

If the West, led by the Untied States, engaged in a serious ground effort to combat them, ISIS would get a tremendous morale boost, would get flooded in locals and foreigners joining them and would ensure that their image as Islamic liberators fighting against infidels and crusaders would further entrench itself within muslim minds.

Besides, the West spends considerably more funds and resources on fighting ISIS than Iran or Russia.

As opposed to the current ISIS, flooded in locals and foreigners joining them, with their image as Islamic liberators fighting against infidels and crusaders? Only thing I dispute is their moral, which plummeted when Western and Eastern air strikes blew up their cash reserves (literally), their oil reserves (literally), their leadership (literally), so all in all, exploding with no money, food, water, hope of victory tends to decrease moral, and no one wants to join useless losers whose sole vocation are committing suicide.

[Orange Wizard]

We really should be doing some kind of propaganda war. Give them, I dunno, toilet paper and stuff. Show them the superiority of western civilisation in a non-militaristic sense.

[ChairmanPoo]

We really should be doing some kind of propaganda war. Give them, I dunno, toilet paper and stuff. Show them the superiority of western civilisation in a non-militaristic sense.

... to be honest, I'm still aghast that a good chunk of western  is not familiar with what a bidet is.

[Loud Whispers]

We really should be doing some kind of propaganda war. Give them, I dunno, toilet paper and stuff. Show them the superiority of western civilisation in a non-militaristic sense.

... to be honest, I'm still aghast that a good chunk of western  is not familiar with what a bidet is.

Remove bidet

[Orange Wizard]

pansy Europan filth

[Vilanat]

Bidet, pfff, they should embrace the future and learn how to use the three seashells.

[Culise]

What's up with the northeasternmost Asia claim? As far as I know, there's no Muslim presence there either modern or historical.

Saw this a while back; sorry for dredging it up, but you never got a serious answer.  The group linked were not just Islamists, but pan-Turkist Islamists, and they apparently decided to link the two with a logical OR instead of a logical AND.  The Yakuts/Sakha are technically a Turkic people along with the Tuvans, Altay, and Yugur/Uyghur, though they're about as Islamic as pork.  That, however, can be easily "solved."

[MarcAFK]

By making bacon out of thinly sliced, salted and smoked beef?
That's already a thing and it's terrible to blaspheme against bacon like that.

[Culise]

Nah, pan-Turkism, remember?  It's turkey bacon, all the way.