I punch TolyK for deploying a hueg post too :I
Alrighty, big post here [in which I'm saving a copy for any hilarity-editing power to not mess up with -.-]
I've been partly biased at the lacking dayplay but that may be due to moodiness and otherwise. Maybe because of the feeling that roles will give more credence than scumhunting; I'm unsure. The variance is too big to include any significant sign of skewedness. [/feelingstatistics]
>>> The lurkertracker does work, but only under a specified setup.
A few notes to drop in my observations:
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A strange thing happened D1 that nobody has come forth with details about.
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TolyK despite his mannerisms about all win and deeply open or 'transparent' motives--I have come to suspect may know a heck load more in regards to many things
{Notes 3, 4, 5; TDS spoiler} -- Note 3 especially because TolyK was the one inquiring.
TolyK: When did you quicktopic DA and TDS? Why did you do so? [and still haven't posted about it?]
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You said you can kill. Details on twice? [opening the box twice. Pandora funtimes \o/]
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Has presumably submitted more than 2 roles {along with Shakerag, Hector, Teneb, Tawa, FallacyofUrist} [Is this correct? I submitted only 2] (Also this link has the other note of a kill there for TolyK, so multi-kill abilities present)
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Has a random role/inspection shot>
Has vouched for everyone wins.
Stretching into D3. {Notably having quicktopics with NQT, TDS, and DA at this point},
plus "extra conditions" in D4....It's also subtly a cheap way to earn infractions if people did go by it
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The heck is this? What's this quip to TMS here? [ALSO
expound on this -.- Please recheck the OP wincons]
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IMO, a very good example of banter.
> Has much faith and cheer in people despite bad events happening IRL to him.
Such a trooper.
***If any of these people receive 2 infractions, these claims in the links are forfeit.
Also I've a ton of notes in the TDS spoiler that it's actually a DA/TDS/TolyK spoiler given the ton of links and associations derived from it that I'm just -.- all around.
TDS***Has a paradox role in play. Has
a role that guarantees roleflips;
a role that prevents anyone winning [in my speculation; while the role exists--
NOT MEANING WHILE HE'S ALIVE OR NOT{1}], and possibly tied to another role that makes him unkillable, although this distinction isn't made apparent
{2} and he ON SPECULATION does not think anything triggers when he's targeted
{3}He
made notice that a role was traded "to DA"--somewhat forwarding the notion that he's in a Mason team {if town} or in a scumteam {if scum} given that TOLYK CLAIMED HE MADE A QUICKTOPIC WITH HIM. Details towards this bond isn't even being talked about [maybe that's why I'm biased -.- I had a feeling about stuffs being missed.]. "The one that put people up for replacement" is an absurdly vague note in an altogether early game which has no credit in that current time--and this may tie in to WHY DA KILLED HIMSELF WITH A BOX (actually he opened them, Tiruin? Oh yeah! He did! FOR AN ULTERIOR PURPOSE IS MY SPECULATION)
{4}I am uncertain about where the context of
his claim about kills have a 100% chance of failure (he didn't direct it to himself; it may be implied to himself because he mentioned so earlier--...
on reply #265, instead of before #230 in that link there {5} [and/or you're hinting at 'I'm unkillable' later on :V but wat? What's the purpose of saying that single post there when it's completely vague by itself and isn't even being used at the present time to forward...anything?]
{6}
"I have a power that can kill me" plus a subtle intensifier on giving the idea that he is town, or, he's making a general statement even if non-town/is-town. "Killing me off early makes it easier for the town to lose." On what basis? One cannot predict the general roles out there in town's arsenal [I mean dear goodness--nobody can use that 'SCUM TEAM OP' or whatever now because the roles are
totally random.
{7} there's a similarity which I've spotted in pleading or noting in public on 'pls no kill me; it'll set [the generality/the implied town//the town] back. This is shared with TolyK.
I'm aware I might be biasing myself heavily given that the knowledge that DA is town [since I'm relying on relying on the idea that Flabort didn't give anyone alignment-fakes-on-roleflip],
but dear goodness this annoys me. Being unsure of your QUICKTOPIC PARTNER'S ROLES and announcing it in public being >50% the content of your post...and the lacking content in other posts...is ugh.
This may make sense because the *ONLY* in-thread communication
between TDS and DA is...in contentless banter in scumhunting each other. This may be in the smokescreen of the lack of scumhunting in the day but...>_>
Also:
No, he has not provided concrete evidence that he is kill-immune other than saying so {2, 3...etc}, and hinting so, in shoddy narrative-style.
It follows his ideations with DA in this matter against TMS. Something I find particularly...strange, along with seeing TolyK's behavior.
Who watches the watchers? TDS has claimed most of what's been claimed in the links--he's lacking a few noted here.
People who cannot be the cult leader:
Tawarochir
All the flipped people [that includes the wild-card Hector, whose alignment is Outsider because of a role which obscures his real alignment] {DA, FoU, Hector, ragshaek :V, NQT}
TolyK has a lot of notes stuck onto him -.-
There's a specific query about triggers--possibly the question that led to TolyK picking TDS as his 'quicktopic' person (and also note #7 shared with TDS about 'don't kill me', along with the exposed banter I'm recording from TolyK's
night quicktopic choice);
I'm wondering why you still picked those two, TolyK, especially why only TDS in that circumstance out of anyone at all. Anyone. At. All. And may particularly distrust that TDS' "roleflip is true" role being particularly as it is advertised given the lack of communication traded after N1 between those two, and you, and the general public.
So grouping y'all into a corner--TDS/DA/TolyK as a team given the quicktopic they've got. They're all leaning towards a more solid standpoint of Town or otherwise individually from all that.
That leaves:
Tawarochir
Hector13
The Moonlit Shadow
4maskwolf
Shakerag
Teneb
And Tiruin [Hi!] and a poof'd OrigamiScienceGuy--I'm personally discounting OSG as the cult leader since it seems his action was a night action, and unless that actions means 'convert and poof away for a phase', I'm doubtful of all that ability-funtime.
If anyone has suspicion that I'm the cult leader; bring it forth because I've apparently tied Tawarochir in an action claim in public. Add that to any claim put forth :v If Mafia, bring it too.
Teneb//Deathsword>
Has a lie detector power which may be
said to be an auto based on his action claims [still waiting on why I was crowbar'd and responses to your actions in the other phases]; note
the connection which provides evidence into that role.
=== Please come forth with details about the lie/truth thingy thus far: Does it activate on the first post per person per day, or is it for every darn post per day?
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Claimed early to have a paradox role too. [Can't win unless dead. Can't ded unless win?]
TMS>
Seems to have gotten a confusing setup or a 'short stick' as an analogy.>
Is the cause of the boxes of Orden; I've a speculation running that if a person who controls a role that makes stuff exist, dies, and the role has no indication that it can work when dead [as is the USUAL IMPLICATION IN ALL ROLES], all boxes of Orden go poof :V So I
do deeply inherently believe that it is best to deploy a kill-everyone pattern to simplify everything unless a better plan can be had, thanks to PPE TolyK maneuver.> I've typed out most of this offline, and my last comprehensive read was until:
here (despite me
posting here)
So a few questions:
> Why have your posts been singlehandedly oriented towards
someone who is possibly a cultist? You're new, and let's hypothetically put you as town:
why is a cultist of foremost priority to you when there is lacking confirmation towards it other than erratic behavior? That's my only question on that point because I also have noticed that the lack of day talk and the commitment you put into your words speaks of a newbie-nature rather than a certain Mafia-esque nature trying to scope out cult (that, and I do believe if you were Mafia hunting cult--your allies would've advised you otherwise; if you're cult hunting cult...this isn't something normally done to preserve dignity of that alignment)
> On
This post, did you take into account that DA, TOlyK, and TDS may actually be a impromptu team on their own given their (not-really-subtly-in-Tiruin's-eye) bias in how they're acting lately?
...Cut that short into: Did you pay attention to TolyK's post where he mentioned his
quicktopic links?
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You voted TDSSpeaking of roles that stop people from winning: TDS. Very inactive. Dropped a 'Who can get rid of roles?' question, which if he'd been paying attention he'd know Shakerag did. Before that, remarked on me and DA early, before most others. Thought I was Jester at first, meaning he's not paying attention again.
then
put in the idea of subtly telling the reason in...invisitext [hint: It's color: Transparent--if anyone catches you doing this, it's a NO-NO in any Mafia game because it's just frustrating and ANNOYING for any alignment to do so -.- even if it is 'I said this earlier no you can't catch me on it
]
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You say you're going after the Cult Leader or the mafia, alright, that's reasonable. And the line of reasoning in poking TDS is reasonable in that sense. Am I correct in asking that your vote onto him is because you think TDS is the cult leader?
> Could I ask you why you began thinking of 'cultist' and then poked DA, as a first priority of the day for your posting pattern?
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I'm lacking notes on 4mask, Shakerag, Tawa, [I suspect Hector knows his true alignment because his role was given along with his wincon, probably.]
Because of lacking activity from them.
Hector has shown his RVS vote into his wincon that forwards getting Shaekrag out.
Shakerag submitted and backs up Tawarochir's role restriction of trigger warnings.Shakerag:
In this post, what do you think will happen in 2 cycles? The wording has a certain tone to it.
TawarochirHas.
Shown.
Trigger.
Warnings. BUT has not shown any of those past...well,
I think the love of Fire Emblem stopped him from doing that.
Everyone voting TMS: I still cannot see the logic which isolates him as a prime target to lynch here. (Excluding the leaning bias seeping out from TDS/DA/TolyK :V), I see a lot of space in between TMS' posts that make him suspicious--I agree that it's a point against him, but it's also a point for him because it's quite a leap to make first of all. Basing your foundation on that leap (see: He has a
reads list which makes his linear processing from that reasonable, even if it may not seem logical [his vote pattern has been TDS, DA and TolyK though o_O];
This is the only time wherein he voted despite discussing his ideas beforehand regarding DA. This was at a time wherein NOBODY KNEW I HAD THE TIME STOPPED. Take that big mention there.
********Filling the [Start (optional) with the
game start link crashes the lurkertracker, so I cannot get a credible list of who voted who first. So I'm listing it AS IS from the lurkertracker -_-
H8 y'all for voting OSG before the game started. And THEBIGGERFISH. Gah you fishies. Gahhhhhhhh.
OSG; TolyK; Tawarochir;
OSG; Tiruin; Sarge; TMS
hector13; TheBiggerFish; Tumbleweed; 4mask; TDS [x3]; Tiruin [While dead]
{on grounds of 'I didn't read the thread as much as I'd like to have laid down that vote.' >_>}
[Shakerag backwards x3]; Unvote into Ragshake; DA; Unvote
Hector13 [x3]; TDS [x3]; Unvote into TDS [x3]; Ragshake [x3]
Has only ever voted TheMoonlitShadow [TMS], twice in game.
OSG; Unvote into Ragshake; DA
TDS; TDS; TolyK; Ragshake; Tiruin; Unvote
TolyK; DA; DA; Unvote; TDS
Ragshake; TMS
I have only voted OSG, and this is my only vote in game.
{Voted himself first, which reminded me of a Valentines Mafia which I think we bantered on}; TDS; Ragshake; Ragshake; 4maskwolf; Ragshake; TMS; TMS
Yep, TolyK, TDS, DA team confirmed :V
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