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[Shakerag]

Okay,so, like, is the massclaim a thing or not?

[TolyK]

I'm up for claiming, like, most of my role and actions.

[flabort]

Votecount
Tawarochir:
TheDarkStar:
Hector13 (I):
The Moonlit Shadow:
Tiruin:
4maskwolf:
Shakerag:
Teneb:
TolyK (II):
Deus Asmoth:  Tawarochir, TheMoonlitShadow,
THE GRIFFIN:
THE SARGENT:  Deus Asmoth,
A Tumbling Tumbleweed:

Not voting: TheDarkStar,  TheMoonlitShadow,  Tiruin, 4maskwolf, Shakerag,  Teneb, TolyK, Hector13,  THE GRIFFIN, THE SARGENT

Extend votes: 2/4 (Tiruin, TolyK)

[Shakerag]

Extend


Well, I don't want to give away my roles just yet, as that would potentially give scum a clue to my weakness, but I'll claim all of my actions so far.

D1 - Broadcast that my alignment was "Jester".  I was hoping someone would comment on that so that I could try to play off that it was some kind of public day inspect.  My reason being, no alignment benefits from lynching a jester, so I could play around without worrying about drawing a lynch.

N1 - Tried to watch and track Tiruin, because I can never read Tiruin.  Got redirected to the tumbleweed.  The tumbleweed did not visit anyone.  The tumbleweed was visited by me, me, Hector, and Tiruin.

D2 - Broadcast that my alignment was "Confirmed Town".  Mostly because that's pretty much the only day power I had, so how could I not play around with it? 

N2 - Same as N1, but with 4maskwolf, for largely the same reasons.  Got redirected to the tumbleweed again.  The tumbleweed did not visit anyone.  The tumbleweed was visited by me, me, and 4maskwolf.

Also two kill attempts were directed at me N2.  They turned into protects due to an ability of mine.  One of those was obviously the redirected spectator kill.  Not sure who fired off the second one.

N3 - Decided to embrace the chaos that which is this game and use some of my crazier powers.  I sacrificed two of my roles and turned them into NPCs, which ended up being THE GRIFFIN and THE SARGENT.  I can control who they vote for.  They have a random, non-mafia alignment (which is not known to me).  They were both also given a second role upon creation (which is also not known to me).  Basically I can make them speak and vote, although Flabort has been doing the speaking so far. 

I won't say which is which (to try and prevent scum from using role-name-based-dickery), but one was created from "The Role That flabort Gives To People Who Have Annoyed Him", and the other was created from some goofy ass "sharkwerm" thing.  The sharkwerm role was basically a night-only arsonist with a 50/50 chance of actually killing.  The other role prevented you from winning and let you screw over other people with a copy of that same role (or an infraction, apparently).

And, like I said, I don't want to reveal my entire hand just yet, but I do have a night ability to re-order individual items in the action-resolution list.  I'm not sure if this would help with the whole "let everyone win" situation.  Or, if someone has a creative way to screw scum/cult/whomever with that, I'm open to suggestion.

[TolyK]

I currently have 3 of those roles (because I had them AND two infractions, which delayed my ability to use actions for yet another cycle), which I intend to drop off to someone who can get rid of them. Or anyone, really, because I'm selfish. 

Shakerag, if I were to give one to you (to not block), could you transformigify them?

[TolyK]

OOOOH. Hold on. How do we make an NPC get an infraction? Can the person who's been doing this crap give an NPC an infraction? Preferably Ragshake, since that could allow him to not win, if you know what I mean...

[flabort]

4/4 extension votes. Day is extended and ends Wednesday now! 1/2 extensions used.

[Shakerag]

The Moonlit Shadow:

Let's Extend.

Shakerag: You 'broadcasted' your alignment as Jester, but didn't post too much D1. So... I'm guessing you have some actions which might make us suspicious?

You apparently visited the Tumbleweed twice N1. Explain?

He had a 'The Role That flabort Gives To People Who Have Annoyed Him' which is currently stopping Hector from winning (if Tolyk did the only thing he could, give that role to someone with an infraction). Hmm... if someone gave you an infraction, you could give away all of those roles, right? On the other hand, giving someone at least 2 more votes might be dangerous.

I'm sure everyone has actions which might make everyone else suspicious.  It's the nature of this kind of power-heavy game.  But, anyway, IDGAF if my powers are suspicious or not, I just wanted everyone (mostly scum) to think I was a Jester and leave me alone.  That didn't go quite as planned.

You missed that I visited the tumbleweed N2 as well.  And that's because I used two actions both nights.

Good point about the votes.  But, yeah, I can sacrifice my roles to power certain abilities.  So long as I didn't have more than one of those F-You roles at a time. 


TolyK:

I currently have 3 of those roles (because I had them AND two infractions, which delayed my ability to use actions for yet another cycle), which I intend to drop off to someone who can get rid of them. Or anyone, really, because I'm selfish. 

Shakerag, if I were to give one to you (to not block), could you transformigify them?

I turned that role into an NPC.  Now, in theory, you should be able to give those roles to said NPC ...

[4maskwolf]

I've already claimed all but one action that I have taken, but here we go again with a list and the one action I hadn't shared:
N1: Give "The role that flabort gives to people who have annoyed him" to FallacyOfUrist: successful
N2: Inspect Tumbling Tumbleweed (town-ally)
N3: Inspect Teneb (town)

I am unaffected by the Tumbleweed's redirection ability and as such can inspect people normally.  Or at least I could, but I fucked something up early and that's no longer an option.  Humph.  That's what I get for playing mafia half-awake.

For those of you wondering what I fucked up, I didn't fulfill my post restriction on one post earlier, which means the role that gave me the nifty redirection-ignore ability is deactivated.

[Deus Asmoth]

Tiruin

He dodged my question once, ignored it the second time and then made the same assertion that I'd asked him about without explaining it any further. I got annoyed. Sue me.

So...could I ask why you're throwing the daykill out with an announcement when you can do that everyday?
Other than the cause being annoyance :O

If he's going to insist on being a liar and hypocrite, I see no reason not to remind him that my words are backed with nuclear weapons.

TMS

My case against DA was that he was being ineffective and wasting time earlier.

How?

He has his vote on an NPC, and has only been talking to me.

Demonstrably false.

No scumhunting.

How?

And considering that you're accusing me of wasting time, I'd like to know how you justify talking about no one other then myself today. I'd also ask why you seem to have a problem with my apparent wasting time, but have no issue with using the lynch on someone that you know is going to immediately come back to life.

[Deus Asmoth]

Shakerag, are Griffin and Sargent guaranteed to be non-scum or just not mafia? It just seems odd that it'd take three nights for the cult to convert someone and still be able to.

[TheDarkStar]

Could the new NPCs be part of the cult?

Also, in regards to everyone winning - does anyone actually have an idea about how it would work?

[TolyK]

Re: Everyone wins:
Currently, it seems like "role swapping shenanigans" will be MVP (at least to me). Plus we'll have to discard some roles, potentially Shakerag can do that. Or, there's potentially another way, barring some particularly nasty roles which override others.

[Deus Asmoth]

DA

1. Didn't get votes on whoever you thought was scum.

What does that have to do with whether I was wasting time or not?

2. (was) True. As you can see by that votecount.

Perhaps you should consider the possibility that that's not what I was referring to in my reply then.

3. Still only talking to me.

I talked to two other people in the same post that you're replying to. If you're going to make bullshit cases, you could at least make ones that don't rely on nobody else actually reading the thread.

Don't even have your vote on me, or a FoS, so you aren't even scumhunting.

Should I have my vote on you?

Ok, you just say that my case isn't a real one, then why do you even respond? You just repeatedly say that I 'didn't explain' my case and vote on you. Which... I did. 3 times.

So, what? I should just ignore you and hope you go away? That's not how this game works. And no. You didn't. You threw out a few half hearted buzz phrases in the hopes that it would pass for an explanation. It doesn't. What evidence do you have that supports anything taht you're trying to push on me.

And since you clearly read my post since you quoted it, why didn't you answer anything I asked you?

And considering that you're accusing me of wasting time, I'd like to know how you justify talking about no one other then myself today. I'd also ask why you seem to have a problem with my apparent wasting time, but have no issue with using the lynch on someone that you know is going to immediately come back to life.

[4maskwolf]

Going for an everybody wins scenario is honestly rather pointless: while it would be nice to figure out a way to do it, all it takes is one person sabotaging it and it doesn't happen, which could result in a town loss.  I'm not willing to risk that in order to ensure an "everyone wins" that could be undermined by the mafia or cult.