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No (flat 0.3E/T/u, break-even times 3T, 5T, 8T, 13T, 19T) (pro: Balances T4-based agents, contra: Takes forever to break even)

6 (33.3%)

Yes (1/3 creation cost/T, break-even times 3T, 3T, 3T, 3T, 3T) (pro: 3x break-even ratio preserved, contra: Low-tier races useless)

2 (11.1%)

Yes ((tier + 1)/3, break-even times 3T, 6T, 8T, 10T, 12T) (pro: Maximizes above two's strengths? contra: Maximizes above two's weaknesses?)

9 (50%)

Yes (other scale posted in thread)

1 (5.6%)

Yes (another scale posted in thread)

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 18

[~Neri]

If I recall, mindless races do not provide worship.

[Happy Demon]

Being the creator is better than nothing, when arguing who should have the soul.
And that's how it goes.

It's arguing who the nonbeliever belongs to, one has a weak justification, while the other has no justification at all.

[AbstractTraitorHero]

Being the creator is better than nothing, when arguing who should have the soul.
And that's how it goes.

It's arguing who the nonbeliever belongs to, one has a weak justification, while the other has no justification at all.

We should make a Afterlife hub or Nexus where the netrual dead can go to any afterlife they choose.

[Rolepgeek]

Also, since they (usually) need bodies still...well, it's not generating souls that costs essence. Or not as much, at least. I'm guessing. Could be wrong. Did say they were basically just bookkeeping.

Also, I don't disagree, OOC, Ardent, but it should be that way according to who? The gods, as far as I can tell, have yet to come to any sort of accord on that point. Freedom of religion is a bit touchier when the gods get pissy if you don't sacrifice your goats every month.

As for claiming dominion over a species; sure I can. People do it all the time. It's why you don't usually let massive amounts of foreign preachers run about your lands.

I'm sayin' that you're assuming that both a. souls do anything in afterlives, and b. everyone's already agreed that if someone worships you you own their soul. Neither of which I've seen any evidence for IC, and the first one I've seen none for OOC. Seems flavor-text, at best. Not a bad thing, of course, but nonetheless.

[Demonic Spoon]

Being the creator is better than nothing, when arguing who should have the soul.
And that's how it goes.

It's arguing who the nonbeliever belongs to, one has a weak justification, while the other has no justification at all.

We should make a Afterlife hub or Nexus where the netrual dead can go to any afterlife they choose.

With travel agents slash salespeople?

[Happy Demon]

Being the creator is better than nothing, when arguing who should have the soul.
And that's how it goes.

It's arguing who the nonbeliever belongs to, one has a weak justification, while the other has no justification at all.

We should make a Afterlife hub or Nexus where the netrual dead can go to any afterlife they choose.

Eh, that would clash with the afterlife-as-reward mentality.
I'd say we set up a spirit court, where they measure the actions related to a god, to see which afterlife they get sent to (good and bad hold equal weight, so if you go on a crusade against a god, you end up in their afterlife, as the ultimate karma).
It wont solve when it's truly neutral, but hey, that's an exception, not a rule.

[AbstractTraitorHero]

Just make it your gods agents of course vir would probably have an advantage becuase she is making a race of messengers..

[hector13]

Being the creator is better than nothing, when arguing who should have the soul.
And that's how it goes.

It's arguing who the nonbeliever belongs to, one has a weak justification, while the other has no justification at all.

We should make a Afterlife hub or Nexus where the netrual dead can go to any afterlife they choose.

With travel agents slash salespeople?

We all have to create our own, and we have rules against being misleading.

This is a stupid idea. Why does it sound awesome?

[Stirk]

Also, since they (usually) need bodies still...well, it's not generating souls that costs essence. Or not as much, at least. I'm guessing. Could be wrong. Did say they were basically just bookkeeping.

Also, I don't disagree, OOC, Ardent, but it should be that way according to who? The gods, as far as I can tell, have yet to come to any sort of accord on that point. Freedom of religion is a bit touchier when the gods get pissy if you don't sacrifice your goats every month.

As for claiming dominion over a species; sure I can. People do it all the time. It's why you don't usually let massive amounts of foreign preachers run about your lands.

I'm sayin' that you're assuming that both a. souls do anything in afterlives, and b. everyone's already agreed that if someone worships you you own their soul. Neither of which I've seen any evidence for IC, and the first one I've seen none for OOC. Seems flavor-text, at best. Not a bad thing, of course, but nonetheless.

Claiming entire races is one thing, especially when you work hard to keep them worshiping you as primary. On an individual level, claiming the souls of followers who left is stealing.

I'm not saying that I expected everyone to spontaneously combust in outrage, I am saying that I expected someone to at least comment on it. I'm not saying that they do anything in particular, but as we have seen with the web stuff, we have plenty of IC reason to care about where souls go. So A is out. And not everyone has to agree on B, just one or two people has to think that way and complain about it. This really isn't something we have to discuss OOC anyway.

[AbstractTraitorHero]

Rules agasint misleading then Vir clearly wins.

[Rolepgeek]

@ATH
Based on...?

I mean, don't forget, we can have our race's psychology twisted however we like.

If that's all you meant, though, Stirk, I think they just got distracted. *shrug* The gods are fickle.

Oh, and that second point is kinda what I meant. When did we establish a 'right to stop worshipping' for mortals?

[AbstractTraitorHero]

Well Vir overall is a kind god who well cares and her afterlife is nice
Good lake underground tunnel planes to run and create things basically they can make what they want out of it.

[Demonic Spoon]

@ATH
Based on...?

I mean, don't forget, we can have our race's psychology twisted however we like.

If that's all you meant, though, Stirk, I think they just got distracted. *shrug* The gods are fickle.

Oh, and that second point is kinda what I meant. When did we establish a 'right to stop worshipping' for mortals?

Yeah, Dragons are probably going to be very different mentally from other racial norms from those hindrances.

And that's a large part of the reason I'm fine with cthulhu snacking yeah, faithlessness should be discouraged, so they can all get eaten for all I care.

[AbstractTraitorHero]

Hell virs dragons and the other gods dragons will be very Different almost certainly!

[piratejoe]

I changed the yamas again to make there vow and code clearer.