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Scale worship output by race cost? (changes will be applied retroactively)

No (flat 0.3E/T/u, break-even times 3T, 5T, 8T, 13T, 19T) (pro: Balances T4-based agents, contra: Takes forever to break even)
- 6 (33.3%)
Yes (1/3 creation cost/T, break-even times 3T, 3T, 3T, 3T, 3T) (pro: 3x break-even ratio preserved, contra: Low-tier races useless)
- 2 (11.1%)
Yes ((tier + 1)/3, break-even times 3T, 6T, 8T, 10T, 12T) (pro: Maximizes above two's strengths? contra: Maximizes above two's weaknesses?)
- 9 (50%)
Yes (other scale posted in thread)
- 1 (5.6%)
Yes (another scale posted in thread)
- 0 (0%)

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Re: Ye Gods Lite OOC [Open]
« Reply #345 on: January 15, 2016, 04:55:16 am »

I'm not sure we should be making races that can breed particularly quickly or that are long-lived.

I say this for two reasons:

1. Worship quality doesn't exist anymore, so it would be foolish for anyone to not have a breeds-like-a-rabbit-lives-like-as-long-as-a-turtle-esque race for income.

2. KJP having to perform different calculations for various races kinda defeats the point of this being a YG Lite :P
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Re: Ye Gods Lite OOC [Open]
« Reply #346 on: January 15, 2016, 05:32:04 am »

I'm not sure we should be making races that can breed particularly quickly or that are long-lived.

I say this for two reasons:

1. Worship quality doesn't exist anymore, so it would be foolish for anyone to not have a breeds-like-a-rabbit-lives-like-as-long-as-a-turtle-esque race for income.

2. KJP having to perform different calculations for various races kinda defeats the point of this being a YG Lite :P
But they'll also be more likely to end up in territorial disputes with the other rabbit breeding races.
And then you'll get on bad terms with the gods who your race attack, making it a risky investment.

Or heck, maybe they'll exterminate some of the other gods' races, and you're in deep s***. As that would warrant vengeful smiting.

Edit: Also it says something about the god when their creations are violent, breeding like rabbits, long lived jerks.
Basically, you're making Elves, and you know how people think of Elves in these parts.
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Re: Ye Gods Lite OOC [Open]
« Reply #347 on: January 15, 2016, 07:06:34 am »

I've updated my magic system.

Spoiler: Proposal: (WIP) (click to show/hide)
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Re: Ye Gods Lite OOC [Open]
« Reply #348 on: January 15, 2016, 07:54:40 pm »

Aww.

I was hoping to do something on tick 0. :/ Just needed some more info. Oh well.
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« Reply #349 on: January 15, 2016, 08:42:41 pm »

I made a second race for very important afterlife things.

Yama

Yama are the judges that reside in hell,they are able to see a souls past and judge them as ether good or evil and if they will stay in hell,go to the nether or go to heaven. There form is based on there ranking and more loosely on there personality but always has some kind of animal feature about them,there all assigned locations in the universe where the people who die there will be judged by them,usually the lower judges will have small locations such as cites or forests however higher judges will have larger regions such as county's or country's,the highest judges dealing with whole worlds. Souls who are reincarnated are given to higher judges each reincarnation,the more times this happens the higher chance they will go to hell as the judges with higher ranks are more strict then the ones with lower ranks,should a soul manage to stay the same way for long enough to be reincarnated so many times that they reach one of the ten high judges chances are there soul will be repurposed,as at this point they probably wont and wouldn't have changed.

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(Resurrective) (Arcane background) (Mundane/Non magical Poison/Disease immune) (Dark vision) (Vow to ideina to provide rulings to the dead souls that enter) (Diehard) (Code of Honor to always be just in there sentences and rulings) (Cautious)
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Re: Ye Gods Lite OOC [Open]
« Reply #350 on: January 15, 2016, 11:57:32 pm »

So is there a reason to go with one sphere instead of two in this game?
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Re: Ye Gods Lite OOC [Open]
« Reply #351 on: January 16, 2016, 01:41:32 am »

KJP has said in the past that dual sphere abilities are weaker than those of single-spheres.
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Re: Ye Gods Lite OOC [Open]
« Reply #352 on: January 16, 2016, 02:02:20 am »

...Unless that ability suits both spheres, in which case it is more powerful than if it was done with just one of them.

The bonus for aligned spheres depends on how well they align with the job being done. With two, one of the spheres often aligns poorly with the job, reducing power. This is quite similar to how narrower spheres are more powerful than broad ones. In both cases, the god is more specialized and more powerful in specific things, but less powerful elsewhere.

Example: creating a race of telepathic elephants:
  • Unaligned sphere, e.g. Jelly Rolls: expensive
  • Broadly aligned sphere, e.g. Animals or Mind: slightly cheaper
  • Narrowly aligned sphere and unaligned sphere, e.g. Animals and Jelly Rolls: slightly cheaper
  • Narrowly aligned sphere, e.g. Elephants or Telepathy: cheap
  • Two broadly aligned spheres, e.g. Animals and Mind: cheap
  • Two narrowly aligned spheres, e.g. Elephants and Telepathy: cheapest
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« Reply #353 on: January 16, 2016, 02:04:32 am »

Uh.

Actually, that is no longer the case, IcyTea.
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Excessively meta spheres such as "Gods," "Ichor," "Game Rules," or "Everything," will be rejected outright. Additionally, spheres now have more interesting, individual effects than boring discounts. To compensate, sphere discounts where they apply have been set at a flat, unstackable 90% (even where multiple gods cooperate).
micelus: In a way, yes. I consider diversity of options an advantage, so sphere-specific abilities for multi-sphere gods will be weakened a bit to compensate (and also to make up for potential monotony from having only one sphere).
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Re: Ye Gods Lite OOC [Open]
« Reply #354 on: January 16, 2016, 02:07:37 am »

Oh.

Well.

Carry on, then.

That quote does mention diversity of options as the advantage of dual spheres, though.
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Re: Ye Gods Lite OOC [Open]
« Reply #355 on: January 16, 2016, 02:22:20 am »

KJP has said in the past that dual sphere abilities are weaker than those of single-spheres.
So they only give 95% discounts or what?

In other news, I finally finished up a few races I'm gonna make. The first one took a surprisingly long time to make (and I still need to give it more positive traits), the second one less but still quite a bit, and the last I finished in about a couple of minutes.
Spoiler: Dwarves (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Elves (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Humans (click to show/hide)
« Last Edit: January 16, 2016, 06:36:26 pm by Andres »
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Re: Ye Gods Lite OOC [Open]
« Reply #356 on: January 16, 2016, 02:25:08 am »

Humans, Dwarves, and Elves are already claimed. Think of new names.
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« Reply #357 on: January 16, 2016, 02:27:39 am »

Humans, Dwarves, and Elves are already claimed. Think of new names.
I'm not sure if that's a rule.
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Re: Ye Gods Lite OOC [Open]
« Reply #358 on: January 16, 2016, 02:31:43 am »

People already made species with the names. Come up with new names.
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Re: Ye Gods Lite OOC [Open]
« Reply #359 on: January 16, 2016, 02:37:45 am »

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