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[Dustan Hache]

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Meh, I said black as a trim. also, all I see are three rangers. Good picture though!
This is how I imagined the crest, excuse my poor paint skills.

[Salsacookies]

Mystic on a non-magic was intended to work with hybrid classes. Still, that'd make it a bad pick at start.

Alright, how's this: Mystic on a non-caster will allow a spell, but you don't start with it, and need to learn it (from a scroll or kingdom-built library). You will be completely unable to switch the spell you learn until you upgrade to a class that can learn spells normally.

I think that sounds good.

[Nirur Torir]

Hmm. I don't know if I want traits to increase spell attack, but Earth should probably still decrease it. Thoughts?

[Dustan Hache]

how about exchanging attack for speed? this would force earth to move last (or move slower if it's a move X tiles system) and thus reduce their effectiveness in combat.
Fire would be suited with something similar to water, with a penalty to exp gain and instead of a random oneshot spell, a random BURST spell(spell that casts a random number of times, with random targets).
this way, lightning offsets earth, and fire offsets water.

[IronyOwl]

Hmm. I don't know if I want traits to increase spell attack, but Earth should probably still decrease it. Thoughts?

Probably, unless you foresee mages doing enough regular attacks to make it still costly.

how about exchanging attack for speed? this would force earth to move last (or move slower if it's a move X tiles system) and thus reduce their effectiveness in combat.
Fire would be suited with something similar to water, with a penalty to exp gain and instead of a random oneshot spell, a random BURST spell(spell that casts a random number of times, with random targets).
this way, lightning offsets earth, and fire offsets water.

I'd be wary of reducing speed, since I believe it's indeed move speed and MS affects a lot more than just combat. Spending extra turns getting to and coming back from everything tends not to be fun for anyone.

I like Fire as it is, though if it doesn't affect spell Att it's mostly a Scout trait which is unfortunate. If you were going to try to make it the opposite of Water, I'd go all the way and make it a random curse slot that reduced XP requirements, or find a way to give it a static, constant bonus to contrast Water's grab bag.

[Nirur Torir]

I'm wary of XP drain in the first place, since it's Not Fun, and needs to be balanced by something unique. Having fire mirror water would make both feel less interesting, at least to me. (And special traits that just give a new attack always feel boring to me.)
Going slow is boring, so I can't make anyone's base speed slower than 4 without a Fun offset.

I think I'll just allow Fire to work for spells. Glass cannon mages with permadeath on will be interesting. For me.

[Salsacookies]

Not too Glass Cannony, the arcane shield'll help!

[Nirur Torir]

Bump. Six hero slots are still open.

[Dustan Hache]

Question: could I also have a hero as one of my leaders? or is that not going to happen to allow for other players?

[Nirur Torir]

Trait: Abyss, cuz why not.

I was wondering whether or not anyone would pick that.

Question: could I also have a hero as one of my leaders? or is that not going to happen to allow for other players?

A retired hero, as a purely fluff thing, yes. Otherwise, no - I want the kingdoms to need to rely on the hero players, and have slightly different goals.

Spoiler: WIP things to come. Subject to change. (click to show/hide)

Every kingdom starts with 100g.

Guards must remain within 2 squares of their origin point. They must be retrained when killed. Guards and soldiers do not reduce XP gains unless no hero participates in the fight. Guards and soldiers only claim gold if no hero is nearby on a kill. Initial guards are included in the building costs, and appear instantly when the building is finished. Retraining is paused when their building is under attack or in an enemy zone of control. Newly trained guards appear instantly at their home building.

If you have taxation in a settlement without a tax drop-off point (The palace, a guardhouse), it creates caravans.

Construction Teams cannot repair buildings that are under attack.

Code: (Tier 1 Buildings) [Select]

Palace - 20HP. Provides 50g/turn, 1 guard, 1 construction team, and tax drop-off. Critical building. Allows 5 houses.

Guardhouse - 100g+75*guardhouse. 20HP. Costs 10g/turn. Provides 1 guard and tax drop-off.

Laborers Guild - Costs 5g/turn. 6 HP. Provides 1 Construction Team.

Market - 150g+150*marketplace. 8 HP. Provides 25g/turn and basic hero equipment.

Inn - 50g+25g*inn. 6 HP. Provides 5g/turn. Allows heroes to rent a room to quickly rest.

Herbalist - 150g+200*Herbalist. 6 HP. Provides 10g/turn. May research healing potions.

Blacksmith - 100g. 10 HP. Provides 10g/turn. May research hero equipment.

House - 10g. 2 HP. Provides 2g/turn. Capped based on other buildings.

Palisaide - 150g. 10 HP. Must be attacked first. One per settlement.

Grand Plaza - 300g. Unlocks new buildings. Allows 5 houses.

? - May be built on resources heroes find.


Code: (Kingdom Units) [Select]

Construction Team - 2 HP, 0 attack, 2 speed. 10g loot. Repairs/builds at 8HP/turn.
   Respawns in 3 turns.   

Guard Recruits - 4 HP, 2 attack, 1 range, 3 speed. 20g loot.
   Retraining costs 25g and 2 turns.

Guard Regulars - 5 HP, 2 attack, 1 range, 3 speed. 20g loot.
   Retraining costs 25g and 2 turns.

Caravan - 2 HP, 0 attack, 2 speed. Carries taxes as loot.
   Auto-generated to bring taxes towards the nearest tax drop-off point, or trade back to the capital.

Building HP is especially subject to change. I need to think further on siege weapons and anti-building items/equipment. For example, fairly expensive anti-building bombs as a T1 harassment item are tempting.
T1 unequipped heroes shouldn't be a serious threat to buildings, but I don't want to force people to spend 6 turns wailing on an enemy palace after getting rid of the defenders.

Five hero slots remain.

[IronyOwl]

Trait: Abyss, cuz why not.

I was wondering whether or not anyone would pick that.

I totally would have taken it for a kingdom trait, but being an economic powerhouse was too tempting.

Building HP is especially subject to change. I need to think further on siege weapons and anti-building items/equipment. For example, fairly expensive anti-building bombs as a T1 harassment item are tempting.
T1 unequipped heroes shouldn't be a serious threat to buildings, but I don't want to force people to spend 6 turns wailing on an enemy palace after getting rid of the defenders.

You could potentially use some kind of burning/stacking damage mechanic, such that running up and punching a palace at level 1 does precisely nothing the first time but ramps up in short order if nobody stops you.

[IronyOwl]

Uh... why are we punching buildings in the first place?

Because I'll give you 80 gold to do so.

Five hero slots remain.

Don't think we're gonna get a full nine right off the bat. NPC mooks, perhaps?

[Nunzillor]

Spoiler: Hero Sheet (click to show/hide)

Name: Sir Steele The Stalwart
Kingdom: Hoshloam
Color: Violet
Class: Warrior
Trait: Agressive

Did I do that right?

[piratejoe]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Name:Joe Simon
Kingdom:not reallyHolyNot much of a Empire of Ravenna
Color:Dark forest green
Class:Scout since assassin isint a thing.
Trait:Bright! the more exp the better...

Make that 3 hero slots....

[Tomcost]

Spoiler: Hero: Aquir the Damned (click to show/hide)

Name: Aquir the Damned
Kingdom: Hoshloam
Color: Purple
Class: Acolyte
Trait: Abyss

Spells:
Flame Blast - 2 range, 2 damage.
Blink - 0 range, 5x5 ring centered on target. Teleport target to a random valid spot in the area of effect.