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Author Topic: Arms Race - 1784: Atterton Monarchy Design Phase  (Read 16719 times)

flazeo25

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Re: Arms Race - 1783: Atterton Monarchy Espionage Phase
« Reply #90 on: January 09, 2016, 10:50:56 am »

Well loyalists obivousbly are hiding something since they got two credits, should we steal their revison or go for something already known? Since it's a risk.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: Atterton Monarchy Espionage Phase
« Reply #91 on: January 09, 2016, 11:22:39 am »

Well they're getting the revision to fix up that insane rifle they tried to make, right? There's some things in there that would be real nice to have, so sure. Percussion caps are probably the thing that's going to be the most useful in the long-term.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: Atterton Monarchy Espionage Phase
« Reply #92 on: January 09, 2016, 11:38:10 am »

If you wants to steal their revision, you will need to choose either the action or the credit.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: Atterton Monarchy Espionage Phase
« Reply #93 on: January 09, 2016, 11:51:06 am »

Well they're getting the revision to fix up that insane rifle they tried to make, right? There's some things in there that would be real nice to have, so sure. Percussion caps are probably the thing that's going to be the most useful in the long-term.
Should we go for revision or their credit then?
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: Atterton Monarchy Espionage Phase
« Reply #94 on: January 09, 2016, 01:06:03 pm »

I think we should steal the brit's credit *edit*
« Last Edit: January 09, 2016, 02:58:32 pm by Snake1229 »
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: Atterton Monarchy Espionage Phase
« Reply #95 on: January 09, 2016, 02:45:30 pm »

I think we should steal the brit's revision Also I don't think we can steal their credit
Well Kaz said we could steal what they made for their credit.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: Atterton Monarchy Espionage Phase
« Reply #96 on: January 09, 2016, 05:19:54 pm »

If we steal their credit, might we get something we can't apply to our own weapons? Also, they revised their ambitious rifle to be somewhat less ambitious, and if I remember correctly, they scrapped percussion caps in favor of going back to flintlocks. I would want to steal the nine-pounder cannon from Fort Alton, to keep our artillery advantage over the Confederates.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: Atterton Monarchy Espionage Phase
« Reply #97 on: January 09, 2016, 07:19:46 pm »

If we steal their credit, might we get something we can't apply to our own weapons? Also, they revised their ambitious rifle to be somewhat less ambitious, and if I remember correctly, they scrapped percussion caps in favor of going back to flintlocks. I would want to steal the nine-pounder cannon from Fort Alton, to keep our artillery advantage over the Confederates.
Cannons won't do much against the confeds since 6 and 12 pounders are already enough. Main problem was the cannons worked well till their infantry and cav got past it which they did but we should have that covered this turn hopefully. Im pretty sure the loyalist wouldn't make their gun simpler if they have two revisions to use it on since they need a strong gun since their land invasion failed due to lackin a strong gun.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: Atterton Monarchy Espionage Phase
« Reply #98 on: January 09, 2016, 07:55:09 pm »

Oh I see. Yeah it doesn't look so good any more. How about the Coombe Mini-cannon? It's basically the machine-gun of its day.
EDIT: The cannon looks pretty good as well. I guess we've got to pick between shoring up our short-range and long-range capacities.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: Atterton Monarchy Espionage Phase
« Reply #99 on: January 09, 2016, 08:22:56 pm »

Oh I see. Yeah it doesn't look so good any more. How about the Coombe Mini-cannon? It's basically the machine-gun of its day.
EDIT: The cannon looks pretty good as well. I guess we've got to pick between shoring up our short-range and long-range capacities.
Well if loyalist did improve their gun like getting percussion cap and breechloading then we could get some much nicer tech for upgrading our other guns but it is risk if they did or not. The coombe is good but if we did steal it might need some fixing up while 9pounder isn;t as good as coombe.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: Atterton Monarchy Espionage Phase
« Reply #100 on: January 09, 2016, 10:07:12 pm »

I find it difficult to see how the Coombe Mini-Cannon is better than the Long Nine, because they are designed for different purposes. If our soldiers can fire three times a minute, the Coombe puts out less fire than a team of four soldiers with rifles. If we want it to be an important part of our arsenal we'd need to revise it, but the Long Nine is good right now, and with it we could put pressure on both the Loyalists at sea and the Confederates on land.

If we steal the Imperial Rifle, we will have wasted the revision we used making the Samara a strong weapon. Granted, we could use things like percussion caps, etc. but we might not get them from espionage, so we should probably not just develop them ourselves.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: Atterton Monarchy Espionage Phase
« Reply #101 on: January 09, 2016, 10:34:38 pm »

I'm not saying the Coombe is better, it's just what I noticed first.
Alright then, I'll get behind the Long Nine.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: Atterton Monarchy Espionage Phase
« Reply #102 on: January 10, 2016, 10:17:35 am »

The long 9 is what is needed to keep the Brits off the coast.

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Re: Arms Race - 1783: Atterton Monarchy Espionage Phase
« Reply #103 on: January 10, 2016, 12:56:16 pm »

The long 9 is what is needed to keep the Brits off the coast.

Well the brits aren't much of enemy against us for now since they seem focused on Confeds.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: Atterton Monarchy Espionage Phase
« Reply #104 on: January 10, 2016, 08:02:34 pm »

Are you all agreed on the long nine?
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