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Author Topic: Arms Race - 1784: British Loyalist Design Phase  (Read 12571 times)

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Re: Arms Race - 1783: British Loyalist Revision Phase
« Reply #90 on: January 04, 2016, 03:53:24 pm »

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Re: Arms Race - 1783: British Loyalist Revision Phase
« Reply #91 on: January 04, 2016, 04:02:41 pm »

 Well, that sucks.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: British Loyalist Revision Phase
« Reply #92 on: January 04, 2016, 04:19:26 pm »

Mind you, they can only really steal it next turn anyway :P
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: British Loyalist Revision Phase
« Reply #93 on: January 05, 2016, 05:59:37 am »

Quote from: Imperial Rifle Mk. I Mod AA
This rifle consists of a 760mm, 16mm-calibre rifled barrel in which seven grooves are cut. It uses a soft-lead ball which will expand on being fired, grip the grooves and clean them of blackpowder residue. The rear of the stock features a section that, when a side-mounted knob on the breachblock is rotated the rearmost section of the barrel pops out, allowing the loading from its paper cartridge. The breackblock is more durable than in its predecessor, but still sticks on occasion. The skilful application of a technical knock solves this in the vast majority of cases however. The rifle attempted to be primed with caps containing a shock-sensitive explosives, but the only suitable shock-explosives the engineers were able to successfully use consistently without high volatility was highly expensive to get ahold of.  The effective range of the rifle is 300 meters in the hands of a sniper and 200 meters in the hands of a regular soldier. (1 ore, Complex)

Techs used:
Rifling
Percussion Caps [complex]
Breachblock
16mm soft lead shells

It seems the dice are finally showing their dere side for this rifle. Rifling is solved! Huzzah!

Obsolete Imperial rifle Mk1. Mod A, Mod B?

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Re: Arms Race - 1783: British Loyalist Production Phase
« Reply #94 on: January 05, 2016, 06:21:24 am »

Definitely obsolete the Mk1. Mod A, but given that the Mod B is now pure and simple means we can use it to replace the brown bess.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: British Loyalist Production Phase
« Reply #95 on: January 05, 2016, 06:50:37 am »

To note, the reliability problems inherent to the mod B are still in effect.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: British Loyalist Production Phase
« Reply #96 on: January 05, 2016, 07:08:15 am »

we can get our soldiers to carry 2 or 3 of those. they are cheap!

kidding aside, obsolete mod A.  while mod B may have reliability problems, I wouldn't obsolete it yet by virtue of it being cheap. our soldiers can choose which rifle to use as they see fit.

what should we produce? I am concerned about the sea, with the necessity of a blockade, loss of first turn higher cost for ships and our losses last turn. I think we might want to produce more london class warships.

The other possibility is to spend the focus on the rifle, give it to everyone and try an invasion again. This this we would have the rifle superiority.

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Re: Arms Race - 1783: British Loyalist Production Phase
« Reply #97 on: January 05, 2016, 09:44:11 am »

I'd say we go with the old tried and true 'BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES' thing. Besides, I doubt that atterton can muster up an invasion force like that anytime soon, especially with their losses on the mainland.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: British Loyalist Production Phase
« Reply #98 on: January 05, 2016, 10:13:25 am »

Okay. Now, for the purposes of Enemy espionage, rifle version AAA will be referred to as B,  B as AAA, AA as A and AA as A.

I'd say we go with the old tried and true 'BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES' thing. Besides, I doubt that atterton can muster up an invasion force like that anytime soon, especially with their losses on the mainland.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: British Loyalist Production Phase
« Reply #99 on: January 05, 2016, 10:19:30 am »

RULE BRITTANIA
As for the other focus - maybe we could turn our "capital" into our own version of Valletta.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: British Loyalist Production Phase
« Reply #100 on: January 05, 2016, 11:11:50 am »

Kot, we are still speaking about the production focus.

Anyway, my vote goes to produce the london class! we need to recover losses.

as for focuses, blockade and fortification sounds good. I wouldn't mind a bit of land combat while we have the advantage in rifles ( which will likely be lost soon, as they will steal our design), but since there isn't much support for another landing, good fortifications are valuable.

By the way, for next turn I was thinking about a new rifled breechloaded cannon.

Also, anyone has an idea of what to steal? rifles, we already have the best. artillery might be redundant if we design next turn, unless there is some good tech we can steal. I am doubtful of the usefulness of stealing atterton's paddleboat now that we have a steam engine of our own.

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Re: Arms Race - 1783: British Loyalist Production Phase
« Reply #101 on: January 05, 2016, 11:14:51 am »

The repeating pistol thingy from whoever uses it? I guess it might give us some tech and also proably fill a niche we don't exactly need but would be nice to have.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: British Loyalist Production Phase
« Reply #102 on: January 05, 2016, 12:15:52 pm »

I think we should steal the pistol, and we should try for some land combat, we do have the advantage there, at least for now.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: British Loyalist Production Phase
« Reply #103 on: January 05, 2016, 12:20:07 pm »

+1 to London Class Production. Also, we get another resource remember? I vote wood so our Cutters have the same cost as our gunboats.
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Re: Arms Race - 1783: British Loyalist Production Phase
« Reply #104 on: January 05, 2016, 01:09:52 pm »

We get that resource next turn, IIRC. Also, ore seems superior in every aspect.
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