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Keep the vanilla ones

Use an expanded vocabularly

Start entirely from scratch

Cull the words that don't make sense from vanilla, then add words as we go

Other(post it in the comments)

[Urdothor]

You could do a caste like what someone tried during the original DFFS. Socketed limbs that fly off during combat for more "shaping"

[Baffler]

That sounds interesting. Do you plan to enforce the castes by giving them natural skills, or poor learning abilities?

Anyway, I've been working on a creature but I'm having a little bit of trouble. Does a higher number for [MILKABLE]'s frequency argument mean more or less common milking? And is there any way for me to disable the vanilla cheesemaking reaction for it?

[Bearskie]

Probably not natural skills, as resurrection carries over skills and such (I think?), which won't play well with the caste transformations. Learning rates, definitely - and other tricks that will narrow down their focus specialties.

[MILKABLE] higher means longer time before ready to be milked. Vanilla's milk template has [MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:CHEESE_MAT:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:CHEESE], so as long as yours doesn't have that line, it shouldn't be called in a cheese reaction. Unsure if there's any side effects to removing that token.

Also, didn't you reduced the pain receptors in the tissue templates? The latest save by Baffler still have the rather painful versions.

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Aaaaah I hate typo errors. Important fix for these two body files, the connections were spelled wrongly:

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[BODY:ARM_2PART_BSK] no elbow
[BP:RA:right arm:STP][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][LIMB][RIGHT][CATEGORY:ARM]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:150]
[BP:RH:right hand:STP][CON:RA][RIGHT][GRASP][CATEGORY:HAND]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:75]
[BP:RWRIST:right wrist:STP][CON:RH][LIMB][JOINT][RIGHT][SMALL][INTERNAL][CATEGORY:WRIST]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:30]
[BP:LA:left arm:STP][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][LIMB][LEFT][CATEGORY:ARM]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:150]
[BP:LH:left hand:STP][CON:LA][LEFT][GRASP][CATEGORY:HAND]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:75]
[BP:LWRIST:left wrist:STP][CON:LH][LIMB][JOINT][LEFT][SMALL][INTERNAL][CATEGORY:WRIST]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:30]

[BODY:BASIC_QUADRUPED_LIMBS_URD] front 2partleg + rear 2partleg
[BP:F_RL:right front leg:STP][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][LIMB][RIGHT][CATEGORY:LEG]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:350]
[BP:F_RKNEE:right front knee:STP][CON:F_RL][LIMB][JOINT][RIGHT][SMALL][INTERNAL][CATEGORY:KNEE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:75]
[BP:F_RF:right front foot:right front feet][CON:F_RL][STANCE][RIGHT][CATEGORY:FOOT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:100]
[BP:F_RANKLE:right front ankle:STP][CON:F_RF][LIMB][JOINT][RIGHT][SMALL][INTERNAL][CATEGORY:ANKLE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:70]
[BP:F_LL:left front leg:STP][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][LIMB][LEFT][CATEGORY:LEG]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:350]
[BP:F_LKNEE:left front knee:STP][CON:F_LL][LIMB][JOINT][LEFT][SMALL][INTERNAL][CATEGORY:KNEE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:75]
[BP:F_LF:left front foot:left front feet][CON:F_LL][STANCE][LEFT][CATEGORY:FOOT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:100]
[BP:F_LANKLE:left front ankle:STP][CON:F_LF][LIMB][JOINT][LEFT][SMALL][INTERNAL][CATEGORY:ANKLE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:70]
[BP:R_RL:right rear leg:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][LIMB][RIGHT][CATEGORY:LEG]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:350]
[BP:R_RKNEE:right rear knee:STP][CON:R_RL][LIMB][JOINT][RIGHT][SMALL][INTERNAL][CATEGORY:KNEE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:75]
[BP:R_RF:right rear foot:right rear feet][CON:R_RL][STANCE][RIGHT][CATEGORY:FOOT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:100]
[BP:R_RANKLE:right rear ankle:STP][CON:R_RF][LIMB][JOINT][RIGHT][SMALL][INTERNAL][CATEGORY:ANKLE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:70]
[BP:R_LL:left rear leg:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][LIMB][LEFT][CATEGORY:LEG]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:350]
[BP:R_LKNEE:left rear knee:STP][CON:R_LL][LIMB][JOINT][LEFT][SMALL][INTERNAL][CATEGORY:KNEE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:75]
[BP:R_LF:left rear foot:left rear feet][CON:R_LL][STANCE][LEFT][CATEGORY:FOOT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:100]
[BP:R_LANKLE:left rear ankle:STP][CON:R_LF][LIMB][JOINT][LEFT][SMALL][INTERNAL][CATEGORY:ANKLE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:70]

+ Remove [SITE] from the royal guard captain in the water troll entity.

[DolosusDoleus]

Quick question here. I'm cooking up a civ for for this mod which involves four basic castes. I won't spoil any details about it, but an idea that I have is that civ ethics could change depending on which caste holds civ leadership. Is there a way to do that? Because I have absolutely no idea how I'd go about doing it.

[Bearskie]

Ethics can't really be changed mid-game. I've heard that the behavior of the civ is affected by the personality of its leader aswell, but not entirely sure about that matter.

Hacky way, make four copy-paste entities that use the same creature, except in terms of ethics. Make the leader position only be able to be occupied by the caste that reflects the chosen civ's ethics. Make sure to limit the max civ numbers though, otherwise you'll have 4x as many similar-looking entities.

[Urdothor]

Does anyone mind if I take a couple extra days to finish up before passing it on? I missed a lot of time I had to work on it.

[Baffler]

I don't mind myslef, but I'd still do the upload as-is and check with whoever is next on the list before continuing.

[Urdothor]

As I tend to work projects parallel, instead of sequentially, theres not much complete, but there is a lot that would be posted in following days.

[Urdothor]

...When did I actually start my turn? Does anyone recall?

Edit: Just now noticed, did Scraws get removed? I seem to be unable to locate them in the files. I see, Bearskie cut them do to lack of tissues.

[Trainzack]

If you want some extra time, that's okay with me.

[Urdothor]

If you want some extra time, that's okay with me.

Thanks! Lets me finish up some things!

[Bearskie]

I did, but didn't Cerapter/Baffler fix and add them back in his turn?

[Urdothor]

I did, but didn't Cerapter/Baffler fix and add them back in his turn?

My copy, and the most recent download, don't appear to have them. So, I don't know what happened

[Bearskie]

Someone must've skipped Cerapter's save altogether then. On closer look, there's none of his additions, bugfixes, and the in-game help files he made. No sense blaming anyone, just find a way to merge your current raws with whatever changes Cerapter made during his turn.

[Urdothor]

just find a way to merge your current raws with whatever changes Cerapter made during his turn.

By hand, unfortunately. *Sigh*