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Keep the vanilla ones

Use an expanded vocabularly

Start entirely from scratch

Cull the words that don't make sense from vanilla, then add words as we go

Other(post it in the comments)

[Bearskie]

Thoughts on poisons and potions:

Easiest way for poisons would be to insert it into a container,  and let players get the contents out by themselves. A minecart-esque container tool, say a cauldron-on-wheels would work best, since the contents can be spilled by parking it on a track stop, instead of finicking about with dumping and stockpiles.

Alternatively, for the more temperature sensitive option, a glob that is stable at normal temperatures, but melts or boils at near-magma tiles would be very ideal for poison delivery. It would require engineering with magma, but its there for the expert player to use.

Lastly, you could have a 1tile workshop where you put all your weapons in the workshop, use a spawn poison reaction, and dismantle the workshop. The poison will coat the floor, and the weapons will be on that tile. If you don't want to coat weapons, this can still be used to selectively place poison tiles.

[Urdothor]

The way poison alchemy was attempted in DFFS originally was basically like a siege engine. A workshop producing long burning clouds thats then abandoned in the entrance-way.
We could do the SPEC_HEAT in a container solution, and have those containers in stockpiles and have it just spew clouds for awhile?

[chaotic skies]

So I managed to achieve metallic trees. It's probably really simple compared to other stuff, but hey. I'm proud of myself

Anyway, I'll put up the code tomorrow. First, sleep, school, small amounts of balancing, and maybe some leaves, and we'll have rare, metalic trees!

[Bearskie]

This doesnt change the mechanics of anything, but if you're going the traditional boiling syndrome route, it'd sound better if you phrased it as a 'magical ritual' or something. Therefore, when the boiling syndrome inevitably fails to kick in, you could attribute it to a failed casting. Sounds better than 'oh, that potion just happened to not work -- maybe try another sip?'. It would also make more sense when the syndrome infects everyone around the ritual caster.

New creature:

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[CREATURE:NIGHTMARE_BSK]
[NAME:nightmare:nightmares:nightmare]
[DESCRIPTION:An equine terror that roams the dark places of the world. Now you shall know why you fear the night. (Size ~200000)]
[CREATURE_TILE:165]
[COLOR:0:0:1]
[PREFSTRING:sense of immersion]
[CREATURE_CLASS:WORLDLY]
[CREATURE_CLASS:MAGIC_RESIST]

[LARGE_ROAMING][LARGE_PREDATOR]
[BIOME:ANY_FOREST]
[BIOME:ANY_SHRUBLAND]
[BIOME:ANY_SAVANNA]
[POPULATION_NUMBER:40:80]
[CLUSTER_NUMBER:3:8]
[FREQUENCY:100]

[ADOPTS_OWNER]
[EVIL][MOUNT][PACK_ANIMAL][PET]
[PETVALUE:-20]

[NOCTURNAL]
[BONECARN]
[NOT_LIVING]
[NIGHT_CREATURE_BOGEYMAN]

[NO_SLEEP]
[NOPAIN]
[NOEXERT]
[NOFEAR]
[NOEMOTION]

[BODY:BASIC_BODY_URD:BASIC_HEAD_URD:BASIC_FACE_URD:BASIC_QUADRUPED_LIMBS_URD:TAIL_BSK]
[BODYGLOSS:PAW_URD]
[BODYGLOSS:HOCK_URD]
[BODYGLOSS:ABDOMEN_RUMP_BSK]

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BASIC_MATERIALS_URD]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:CARTILAGE]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:KERATIN]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:KERATIN_SCALE]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:SCALE]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:CHITIN]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:BLOOD]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BASIC_TISSUES_URD]
[REMOVE_TISSUE:CARTILAGE]
[REMOVE_TISSUE:KERATIN]
[REMOVE_TISSUE:KERATIN_SCALE]
[REMOVE_TISSUE:SCALE]
[REMOVE_TISSUE:CHITIN]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HAIR_URD]

[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:DUST:DIRT_TEMPLATE_BSK]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL:dust]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL:BLACK]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:1:0:1]
[MELTING_POINT:NONE]
[BOILING_POINT:10500]
[MAT_FIXED_TEMP:10600]
[TISSUE:DUST]
[TISSUE_NAME:dust:dust]
[TISSUE_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:DUST]
[RELATIVE_THICKNESS:5]
[HEALING_RATE:1]
[FUNCTIONAL]
[SCARS]
[CONNECTS]
[MUSCULAR]
[STRUCTURAL]
[INSULATION:100]
[TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
[TISSUE_MAT_STATE:SOLID_POWDER]
[TISSUE_LEAKS]

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:COMPLETE_INSECT_LAYERS_BSK:SKIN:MUSCLE:DUST:BONE]
[TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:NECK:HAIR:TOP]
[TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:TAIL:HAIR]

[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:50:70:90:100:110:130:150]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:75:85:95:100:105:115:125]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:75:85:95:100:105:115:125]

[BODY_SIZE:0:0:15000]
[BODY_SIZE:1:0:80000]
[BODY_SIZE:3:0:200000]
[MAXAGE:30:50]
[SMELL_TRIGGER:1000]
[LOW_LIGHT_VISION:10000]
[ODOR_LEVEL:80]
[ODOR_STRING:fear]

[GETS_WOUND_INFECTIONS]
[GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT]
[PUS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:DUST:GAS]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:DUST:GAS]

[ATTACK:BITE:CHILD_BODYPART_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:MOUTH:BY_CATEGORY:TOOTH]
[ATTACK_SKILL:BITE]
[ATTACK_VERB:bite:bites]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:50]
[ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:3:3]
[ATTACK_FLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
[ATTACK_FLAG_CANLATCH]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
[ATTACK:SMASH:BODYPART:BY_TYPE:UPPERBODY]
[ATTACK_SKILL:STANCE_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:smash against:smashes against]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:4:4]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:SECOND]

[CAN_DO_INTERACTION:FEAR_NIGHTMARE_BSK]
[CDI:ADV_NAME:strike fear]
[CDI:USAGE_HINT:ATTACK]
[CDI:TARGET:A:LINE_OF_SIGHT]
[CDI:TARGET_RANGE:A:20]
[CDI:MAX_TARGET_NUMBER:A:20]

[CANNOT_CLIMB]
[SWIMS_INNATE]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_QUADRUPED_GAITS:900:405:270:135:1900:2900] 65kph
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_SWIMMING_GAITS:3512:2634:1756:878:4900:6900] 10kph
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CRAWLING_GAITS:900:691:482:251:1900:2900] 35kph

[CHILD:5]
[GENERAL_CHILD_NAME:nightfoal:nightfoals]
[CHILDNAME:nightfoal:nightfoals]

[CASTE:MALE]
[MALE]
[CASTE_NAME:nightcolt:nightcolts:nightcolt]
[SET_BP_GROUP:BY_TYPE:LOWERBODY][BP_ADD_TYPE:GELDABLE]
[CASTE:FEMALE]
[FEMALE]
[MULTIPLE_LITTER_RARE]
[CASTE_NAME:nightmare:nightmares:nightmare]

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[INTERACTION:FEAR_NIGHTMARE_BSK]
[I_SOURCE:CREATURE_ACTION]
[I_TARGET:A:CREATURE]
[IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_CREATURE]
[IT_CANNOT_TARGET_IF_ALREADY_AFFECTED]
[IT_MANUAL_INPUT:prey]
[I_EFFECT:ADD_SYNDROME]
[IE_TARGET:A]
[IE_IMMEDIATE]
[SYNDROME]
[SYN_NAME:nightmares]
[CE_FEEL_EMOTION:EMOTION:FEAR:SEV:60:START:0:END:7200] 1 week

[Amperzand]

That does make sense. Certainly all the testing I've heard of this version suggests it's very hard to do.

[Dorsidwarf]

He admires nightmares for their The Who.

[Bearskie]

....Dang, I thought it'd be 'he enjoys nightmares for The Who'. Scrapping that joke. :3

[DolosusDoleus]

Thoughts on poisons and potions:

Easiest way for poisons would be to insert it into a container,  and let players get the contents out by themselves. A minecart-esque container tool, say a cauldron-on-wheels would work best, since the contents can be spilled by parking it on a track stop, instead of finicking about with dumping and stockpiles.

Alternatively, for the more temperature sensitive option, a glob that is stable at normal temperatures, but melts or boils at near-magma tiles would be very ideal for poison delivery. It would require engineering with magma, but its there for the expert player to use.

Lastly, you could have a 1tile workshop where you put all your weapons in the workshop, use a spawn poison reaction, and dismantle the workshop. The poison will coat the floor, and the weapons will be on that tile. If you don't want to coat weapons, this can still be used to selectively place poison tiles.

What if we made a modified siege engine which launches easily-broken vials full of our poisons? I have no idea if this will work but its something to consider.

[Urdothor]

Thoughts on poisons and potions:

Easiest way for poisons would be to insert it into a container,  and let players get the contents out by themselves. A minecart-esque container tool, say a cauldron-on-wheels would work best, since the contents can be spilled by parking it on a track stop, instead of finicking about with dumping and stockpiles.

Alternatively, for the more temperature sensitive option, a glob that is stable at normal temperatures, but melts or boils at near-magma tiles would be very ideal for poison delivery. It would require engineering with magma, but its there for the expert player to use.

Lastly, you could have a 1tile workshop where you put all your weapons in the workshop, use a spawn poison reaction, and dismantle the workshop. The poison will coat the floor, and the weapons will be on that tile. If you don't want to coat weapons, this can still be used to selectively place poison tiles.

What if we made a modified siege engine which launches easily-broken vials full of our poisons? I have no idea if this will work but its something to consider.

That can't be done unfortunately.

[Bearskie]

^ True, but some thoughts on the idea. A boulder that is stable at underground temperatures, but explodes into a cloud of gas in outdoor temperatures. You could theoretically launch such boulders using a catapult, and have them explode in your invader's faces.

I say theoretically, because I'm not entirely sure how rigorous the temperature calculations are. The boulder may just passively sit outdoors and refuse to boil until the turn of the season, or only until a unit walks over it.

[Urdothor]

^ True, but some thoughts on the idea. A boulder that is stable at underground temperatures, but explodes into a cloud of gas in outdoor temperatures. You could theoretically launch such boulders using a catapult, and have them explode in your invader's faces.

I say theoretically, because I'm not entirely sure how rigorous the temperature calculations are. The boulder may just passively sit outdoors and refuse to boil until the turn of the season, or only until a unit walks over it.

When syndromes first came out, someone did some science with all sorts of things involving it. I might look for it again because I remember a possible solution.

"Combining these ideas is it possible to drop a [SYN_CONTACT] blooded creature from a execution tower into a siege to cause explosive toxic havoc? [confirmed]"

Make using the potion cause the somewhat hoop jumping series of events that can create a new creature. Have that creature be immobile and called "venom potion vial" or something, and set it to drop on invaders? Maybe? Dunno.

Edit: Also, we can still call it alchemy because sometimes a potion just fails. They aren't exactly warrantied by some big potion corporation.

[Bearskie]

Easier would probably be to have a creature with gaseous or liquid secretions. No need to throw them off towers to get gas.

Still rather hoop-la though. Not the best way for poisons to work.

[Urdothor]

Easier would probably be to have a creature with gaseous or liquid secretions. No need to throw them off towers to get gas.

Still rather hoop-la though. Not the best way for poisons to work.

Yea, its all a bit much.

[Dorsidwarf]

Elves might have to go on the backburner. Faking advanced tech in DF is hard.

[Baffler]

Right, update. Things are getting a little behind schedule, with deserts, conifer forests, and extreme biomes (mountains, taiga/tundra) still needing attention before I can start the crop arc. I hope to get at least one of those categories done per day, which would leave me with Friday and Saturday to do crops and magic stuff if I don't get ahead or behind. Not as much as I'd hoped to get done, but it's something. If I have to leave something off, it'll be the magic. I don't want to end my turn with an incomplete system in place and that still needs some science.