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What should we do for the language_words (We can use custom symbols)?

Keep the vanilla ones
Use an expanded vocabularly
Start entirely from scratch
Cull the words that don't make sense from vanilla, then add words as we go
Other(post it in the comments)

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Urdothor

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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #435 on: January 24, 2016, 02:50:20 pm »

Yes, but I have 2 entities I want to add, graphics, a plethora of creatures, and everything all that entails to do. And that's just for this thread. Then there's "The City" thread, stuff for other games, and school. Bah.
I did say I'd do it, you don't have to!
I'll be filtering out stuff like "abatement", that really should have no place in names, or stuff like "rabbit", because what's a rabbit.
On request, I'll also add some words if you guys want to.

Also, should we have a unified language_english for now, like the other two had before languages were implemented?

If you want too. Honestly, looking at the vanilla words, I stop like every 3 words to see if something has a definition that makes sense in some form.

Edit: Wasn't the unified language_english because an entity spoke english?
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« Reply #436 on: January 24, 2016, 03:01:06 pm »

Edit: Wasn't the unified language_english because an entity spoke english?
Eh, I dunno. I only remember there being a language_english file.

Also, I stop every third word to see its definition, so there's that. Maaaaybe we could have just started from the scratch.

Ugh, this is one of those things that I REALLY want to do, but it's also SOOO much. It infuriates me.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #437 on: January 24, 2016, 03:03:13 pm »

Edit: Wasn't the unified language_english because an entity spoke english?
Eh, I dunno. I only remember there being a language_english file.

Also, I stop every third word to see its definition, so there's that. Maaaaybe we could have just started from the scratch.

Ugh, this is one of those things that I REALLY want to do, but it's also SOOO much. It infuriates me.

What if we divide it into chunks?
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #438 on: January 24, 2016, 03:05:20 pm »

Urd, are both innards and outards of your crystalline entities supposed to be called "crystalline hide"?
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Urdothor

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« Reply #439 on: January 24, 2016, 03:06:44 pm »

Urd, are both innards and outards of your crystalline entities supposed to be called "crystalline hide"?

Well, it was going to be entirely crystalline down to a gaseous internal bit.
Just bodygloss it to whatever you want to call it.

Edit: I'll probably rename it before I use it.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #440 on: January 24, 2016, 03:22:58 pm »

What if we divide it into chunks?
Sure! We could go by amount, or we could just divide them by symbols.
Division by symbols roughly divides them into 100-200 words a symbol, except for stuff like desert, which has 10 or less words, and man-made stuff like fortress, wall, etc.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #441 on: January 24, 2016, 03:28:54 pm »

Well, let's see if we can get some other people involved. I'll post a thing on the first post.

Symbol works. And that way everyone knows how their word is being applied.
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« Reply #442 on: January 24, 2016, 03:37:04 pm »

Code: [Select]
[CREATURE:ELF_EXT_DRS]
[NAME:elf:elfs:elfen]
[DESCRIPTION:an unnerving extradimensional creature, these crystalline beings hail from an era of technology on a scale not to be seen in this world]
[CREATURE_TILE:'ë']
[COLOR:5:1:0]
[CREATURE_CLASS:EXTRADIMENSIONAL]

[INTELLIGENT]
[CANOPENDOORS]
[EQUIPS]
[BENIGN]
[DIURNAL]
[NO_DRINK]
[SWIMS_LEARNED]

//BODY STUFF HERE VVV



//HELP I DONT UNDERSTAND THIS BIT ITS ALL COPYPASTA

[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:STRENGTH:650:660:680:700:750:800:900]
[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:AGILITY:500:1000:1400:1500:1600:2000:2500]
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:WILLPOWER:200:700:1000:1200:1400:1700:2200]
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:SPATIAL_SENSE:700:1200:1400:1500:1600:1800:2500]
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:KINESTHETIC_SENSE:700:1200:1400:1500:1600:1800:4000]

[PROFESSION_NAME:MINER:excavator:excavators]
[PROFESSION_NAME:CRAFTSMAN:craftelf:craftelfs]
[PROFESSION_NAME:FISHERMAN:fishtaker:fishtakers]
[PROFESSION_NAME:SPEARMAN:spearelf:spearelfs]
[PROFESSION_NAME:AXEMAN:axelf:axelfs]
[PROFESSION_NAME:SWORDSMAN:bladeself:bladeselfs]
[PROFESSION_NAME:MASTER_SWORDSMAN:bladedancer:bladedancers]
[PROFESSION_NAME:PIKEMAN:pike-elf:pike-elfs]
[PROFESSION_NAME:BOWMAN:archer:archers]
[PROFESSION_NAME:MASTER_BOWMAN:archer elite:archer elites]
[PROFESSION_NAME:CROSSBOWMAN:boltelf:boltelfs]
[PROFESSION_NAME:MASTER_CROSSBOWMAN:boltgiver:boltgivers]
// babus
[BABY:1]
[GENERAL_BABY_NAME:crystalis:crystalises]


[CHILD:6]
[GENERAL_CHILD_NAME:elflet:elflets]
[CHILDNAME:elflet:elflets]

//castes
[CASTE:MALE]
[MALE]
[CASTE:FEMALE]
[FEMALE]
[MULTIPLE_LITTER_RARE]
[CASTE:WATCHER]
[NAME:elf watcher:elf watchers:elf watcher]
[DESCRIPTION:a mysterious subform of the invading crystalline elfs, the watchers stand, fearless and eternal]
[NO_GENDER]
[NOFEAR]
[NOCTURNAL]
[NO_PHYS_ATT_RUST]
[NO_DIZZINESS]
[NOEMOTION]

first draft wooo! (this is missing all the body stuff since I'm not good enough to set up material/body/layer templates.)
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Urdothor

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« Reply #443 on: January 24, 2016, 03:40:09 pm »

Code: [Select]
[CREATURE:ELF_EXT_DRS]
[NAME:elf:elfs:elfen]
[DESCRIPTION:an unnerving extradimensional creature, these crystalline beings hail from an era of technology on a scale not to be seen in this world]
[CREATURE_TILE:'ë']
[COLOR:5:1:0]
[CREATURE_CLASS:EXTRADIMENSIONAL]

[INTELLIGENT]
[CANOPENDOORS]
[EQUIPS]
[BENIGN]
[DIURNAL]
[NO_DRINK]
[SWIMS_LEARNED]

//BODY STUFF HERE VVV



//HELP I DONT UNDERSTAND THIS BIT ITS ALL COPYPASTA

[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:STRENGTH:650:660:680:700:750:800:900]
[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:AGILITY:500:1000:1400:1500:1600:2000:2500]
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:WILLPOWER:200:700:1000:1200:1400:1700:2200]
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:SPATIAL_SENSE:700:1200:1400:1500:1600:1800:2500]
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:KINESTHETIC_SENSE:700:1200:1400:1500:1600:1800:4000]

[PROFESSION_NAME:MINER:excavator:excavators]
[PROFESSION_NAME:CRAFTSMAN:craftelf:craftelfs]
[PROFESSION_NAME:FISHERMAN:fishtaker:fishtakers]
[PROFESSION_NAME:SPEARMAN:spearelf:spearelfs]
[PROFESSION_NAME:AXEMAN:axelf:axelfs]
[PROFESSION_NAME:SWORDSMAN:bladeself:bladeselfs]
[PROFESSION_NAME:MASTER_SWORDSMAN:bladedancer:bladedancers]
[PROFESSION_NAME:PIKEMAN:pike-elf:pike-elfs]
[PROFESSION_NAME:BOWMAN:archer:archers]
[PROFESSION_NAME:MASTER_BOWMAN:archer elite:archer elites]
[PROFESSION_NAME:CROSSBOWMAN:boltelf:boltelfs]
[PROFESSION_NAME:MASTER_CROSSBOWMAN:boltgiver:boltgivers]
// babus
[BABY:1]
[GENERAL_BABY_NAME:crystalis:crystalises]


[CHILD:6]
[GENERAL_CHILD_NAME:elflet:elflets]
[CHILDNAME:elflet:elflets]

//castes
[CASTE:MALE]
[MALE]
[CASTE:FEMALE]
[FEMALE]
[MULTIPLE_LITTER_RARE]
[CASTE:WATCHER]
[NAME:elf watcher:elf watchers:elf watcher]
[DESCRIPTION:a mysterious subform of the invading crystalline elfs, the watchers stand, fearless and eternal]
[NO_GENDER]
[NOFEAR]
[NOCTURNAL]
[NO_PHYS_ATT_RUST]
[NO_DIZZINESS]
[NOEMOTION]

first draft wooo! (this is missing all the body stuff since I'm not good enough to set up material/body/layer templates.)

I believe we're going with a blinking "motif" for our extra dimensional creatures. Bearskie's suggested it a couple times, and I think it's a cool idea. Basically, the tile of the creature flashes. It's up to you if you want to do it. That's my only comment. Cool idea on the elves though, hope you make them unique.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #444 on: January 24, 2016, 03:43:21 pm »

I believe we're going with a blinking "motif" for our extra dimensional creatures. Bearskie's suggested it a couple times, and I think it's a cool idea. Basically, the tile of the creature flashes. It's up to you if you want to do it. That's my only comment. Cool idea on the elves though, hope you make them unique.
That's done with [ALTCOLOR] or something?
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« Reply #445 on: January 24, 2016, 03:45:17 pm »

That's done with [ALTCOLOR] or something?

[ALTTILE] Colors don't change I think.

Do we want to choose a unified symbol for all extradimensional creatures to flash to, or is just the presence of flashing enough?
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« Reply #446 on: January 24, 2016, 03:52:43 pm »

That's done with [ALTCOLOR] or something?

[ALTTILE] Colors don't change I think.

Do we want to choose a unified symbol for all extradimensional creatures to flash to, or is just the presence of flashing enough?
I think the flashing might be enough. After all - do the creatures all come from the same other dimension?
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« Reply #447 on: January 24, 2016, 03:53:19 pm »

Do we want to choose a unified symbol for all extradimensional creatures to flash to, or is just the presence of flashing enough?
How about 029 (↔)?
Unused by the game, and it could symbolise that these creatures crossed dimensions.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #448 on: January 24, 2016, 03:53:51 pm »

I think the flashing might be enough. After all - do the creatures all come from the same other dimension?

They're all from the void. The area beeeeetween dimensions.
Edit: Well, the invaders are. We could have other mult-dimensional beings? If people think it fits our magic/tech/void theme.

Do we want to choose a unified symbol for all extradimensional creatures to flash to, or is just the presence of flashing enough?
How about 029 (↔)?
Unused by the game, and it could symbolise that these creatures crossed dimensions.

Or, we could do ∩ like a portal/gateway.
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« Reply #449 on: January 24, 2016, 03:56:59 pm »

Oh, I like the portal/ateway one.

E: do we have it? Notepad says it isnt an ANSI symb ol
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