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What should we do for the language_words (We can use custom symbols)?

Keep the vanilla ones
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #390 on: January 23, 2016, 03:37:23 pm »


I like the emergent stories already.

Also the phoenixes in the arena are going hammer and tongs at each other while killing everything around them with flame aura. They both have each other grappled and are snapping bone after bone.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #391 on: January 23, 2016, 03:41:35 pm »


I like the emergent stories already.

Also the phoenixes in the arena are going hammer and tongs at each other while killing everything around them with flame aura. They both have each other grappled and are snapping bone after bone.
They're eventually going to have more attacks with precedence over fire, but they were put in early.

Plus, they ARE megabeasts, so.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2016, 03:43:57 pm by Urdothor »
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #392 on: January 23, 2016, 04:09:45 pm »

Hmm...we need more...Violence, in this world. I might make some very...."dangerous" animals soon. I will still call them my Fun pets, though.

Anyway, an animal that explodes when it dies sounds interesting...
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« Reply #393 on: January 23, 2016, 04:16:35 pm »

Hmm...we need more...Violence, in this world. I might make some very...."dangerous" animals soon. I will still call them my Fun pets, though.

Anyway, an animal that explodes when it dies sounds interesting...

Well, I'm going to add the antagonist species soon, so that'll be plenty violent. And then hopefully some benign stuff. Because a world entirely full of death isn't fun.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #394 on: January 23, 2016, 07:26:05 pm »

I'd like to note that, in real life, breaking bones may be less painful than minor cuts due to the reduced number of pain receptors that deep.

I find it depends on the person, and how it's broken. When I break bones, I feel nothing at all really. Some people break bones and they're down for the count, so to speak.

I'm not a doctor or anything, but I vaguely remember someone saying something about breaking bones doing a lot of damage to surrounding tissue that does have lots of pain receptors (with shards, fragments, blunt trauma, etc.) and vanilla bone has such high pain modifiers to model that.

Argh, not real life again.

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« Reply #395 on: January 23, 2016, 07:31:11 pm »

I'd like to note that, in real life, breaking bones may be less painful than minor cuts due to the reduced number of pain receptors that deep.

I find it depends on the person, and how it's broken. When I break bones, I feel nothing at all really. Some people break bones and they're down for the count, so to speak.

I'm not a doctor or anything, but I vaguely remember someone saying something about breaking bones doing a lot of damage to surrounding tissue that does have lots of pain receptors (with shards, fragments, blunt trauma, etc.) and vanilla bone has such high pain modifiers to model that.

Argh, not real life again.

Lets set all pain values to negative one so everyone gains euphoria from punches.  :P
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #396 on: January 23, 2016, 07:51:46 pm »

I'd like to note that, in real life, breaking bones may be less painful than minor cuts due to the reduced number of pain receptors that deep.

I find it depends on the person, and how it's broken. When I break bones, I feel nothing at all really. Some people break bones and they're down for the count, so to speak.

I'm not a doctor or anything, but I vaguely remember someone saying something about breaking bones doing a lot of damage to surrounding tissue that does have lots of pain receptors (with shards, fragments, blunt trauma, etc.) and vanilla bone has such high pain modifiers to model that.

Argh, not real life again.

Lets set all pain values to negative one so everyone gains euphoria from punches.  :P

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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #397 on: January 23, 2016, 08:48:34 pm »

You know, would it actually be a bit too late to be put on the modder list instead?

I actually do know a bit about creature modding.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #398 on: January 23, 2016, 09:28:19 pm »

Lets set all pain values to negative one so everyone gains euphoria from punches.  :P

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« Reply #399 on: January 23, 2016, 10:33:03 pm »


Lets set all pain values to negative one so everyone gains euphoria from punches.  :P

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« Reply #400 on: January 23, 2016, 10:54:44 pm »

Alright, I picked up the RAW's. For accountability purposes my goals, in order of priority, are:

1) Plants. This isn't Earth, so some of these should be quite alien, but I'll try to keep them on general themes. I like how different from vanilla it looks already, and more of that can only be good.

2) Animals. I probably won't get a lot of these in, creatures aren't my strong suit, but I have at a few in mind.

3) Entity. They aren't intended to be playable, but they should make the game more interesting. I'm not sure if I'll have time to get to them or not, but I have the concept figured out so if I have a chance I'll put them in. There would be two entities with the same creature, one of whom is friendly and trades with you, while the other has close ties with some of the more organized invaders. The first one would have very middle of the road, moral relativist type ethics to minimize conflict, and have some unique stuff to sell you. The other would basically be more dangerous kobolds, equipped with a mishmash of mundane equipment and lower-quality "export versions" of invader tech. They'll be thieves/babysnatchers to make them hostile by default, and if they have some success they'll send an ambush.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #401 on: January 24, 2016, 12:22:40 am »

Alright, just finished work on some new trees, but I'm going to make sure the game doesn't implode when they're added first.

Basically, it's a tree made out of Gargon (the really dense and heavy metal). I was going to make ironwood trees, but then I remembered we don't have iron. So this is what I ended up with.
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« Reply #402 on: January 24, 2016, 03:44:28 am »

Alright, I picked up the RAW's. For accountability purposes my goals, in order of priority, are:

1) Plants. This isn't Earth, so some of these should be quite alien, but I'll try to keep them on general themes. I like how different from vanilla it looks already, and more of that can only be good.

I'll be sending you fixes shortly.

Edit: Reducing pain receptors, thickening internals not used in attacks so hopefully things get gored less. Everything is a little below vanilla values in regards to pain receptors.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2016, 04:04:56 am by Urdothor »
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« Reply #403 on: January 24, 2016, 05:16:30 am »

Well, that healed faster than I expected. I'm back in business, baby! Except that my lip has swollen and it's a pain in the ass to eat anything. But other than that, I'm a-okay.

I think I'll try playing fortress mode or something, because we hadn't had a playthrough yet, right? Though I'm absolutely horrible at vanilla fortress mode too, but oh well.

Which one's more playable in fortress mode, water trolls or them mantises?

(I might just play adventurer in the end, though :P)
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« Reply #404 on: January 24, 2016, 05:31:10 am »

Well, that healed faster than I expected. I'm back in business, baby! Except that my lip has swollen and it's a pain in the ass to eat anything. But other than that, I'm a-okay.

I think I'll try playing fortress mode or something, because we hadn't had a playthrough yet, right? Though I'm absolutely horrible at vanilla fortress mode too, but oh well.

Which one's more playable in fortress mode, water trolls or them mantises?

(I might just play adventurer in the end, though :P)

We have not had a fortress mode play through that's been posted, that's correct. Also, would you like to be marked down for a second turn then?
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