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Dorsidwarf

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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #285 on: January 20, 2016, 12:53:52 pm »

Looks like I missed a flurry of creativity here. :3 You might want to add [STANCE] to your tail, since its being used to move around (otherwise your serpents will just crawl all over the place). Firebreathing is a material emission interaction now, with material fire flow. Nice additions.

Do the screatures need STANCE on their tail? I thought their legs had that.

E: In my opinion, its a collab effort, so adding cool alchemical stuff should be encouraged
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Urdothor

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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #286 on: January 20, 2016, 12:58:29 pm »

Any creatures that attempt to have a lower body tail, but without legs, would need stance, but otherwise just the legs is fine
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #287 on: January 20, 2016, 01:14:30 pm »

Any creatures that attempt to have a lower body tail, but without legs, would need stance, but otherwise just the legs is fine
I'll make a "body tail" which has stances too, then. For snake-shaped animals without legs.
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Dwarf4Explosives

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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #288 on: January 20, 2016, 01:24:45 pm »

I like scraws. They're like little four-eyed mole lizards.
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...why do your hydras have two more heads than mine? 
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #289 on: January 20, 2016, 02:06:57 pm »

I like scraws. They're like little four-eyed mole lizards.
An adult Scraw is bodysize 200,000. Did you mean Screatures?
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #290 on: January 20, 2016, 07:26:12 pm »

Posting to watch, might do some modding later on.

EDIT: Made a snap decision and I want to have a go at modding. I have a couple of ideas I'd like to implement, mostly involving workshops/professions/other stuff like that.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #291 on: January 20, 2016, 08:38:06 pm »

Posting to watch, might do some modding later on.

EDIT: Made a snap decision and I want to have a go at modding. I have a couple of ideas I'd like to implement, mostly involving workshops/professions/other stuff like that.

Alright! Onto the list you go.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #292 on: January 21, 2016, 05:56:20 am »

I like scraws. They're like little four-eyed mole lizards.
An adult Scraw is bodysize 200,000. Did you mean Screatures?
Yes. I got confused :P.
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And yet another bit of proof that RNG is toying with us. We do 1984, it does animal farm
...why do your hydras have two more heads than mine? 
Does that mean male hydras... oh god dammit.

Urdothor

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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #293 on: January 21, 2016, 06:18:01 am »

To anyone wanting to make creatures with firesafe materials, I've taken the liberty of creating them. Once Bearskie is done bug fixing we'll lump them in, as well as Dorsidwarf's creations.

On the matter of what I'm currently doing, its a few minor templates, soil, gems, that I missed before, my megabeast (Which is actually rather helpful). And finally, the extra-dimensional parasitic, semi-intelligent creatures. I'm going to simulate the uncoordinated invasion by having them exist both as an entity, and as animal. That way you see stragglers and mass forces.  After that, I plan to design a large number of normal creatures, and include them during my turn.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #294 on: January 21, 2016, 07:14:22 am »

I actually did start making some new domesticated animals, as my turn should be coming up, as Eritzap seem to have not replied. Or I'm just blind.

I suppose I'll just post my stuff in the meantime:

I haven't been able to get the kicking working, so I'm still working on that, but other than that, they seem fine during Arena testing. I'll try embarking with them later.
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« Reply #295 on: January 21, 2016, 07:19:53 am »

Those look pretty nice. Interested to see what else you come up with. It's nice to have milk and cheese. Currently, I'm producing alcohol templates, so that should be fun for everyone. I'm not sure how nasty of a drunk effect to put on it though.

I've also just realised I've inexplicably left out a number of different modifiers, i.e. the color and body ones, while working. 
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #296 on: January 21, 2016, 11:43:05 am »

Bugfixes! Get ya bugfixes here! Hell, so many darn bugfixes, I can't even begin to list them all...

HERE!

I've tested most of the basic functionalities already, and will be basing a solid playthrough off this version. This latest version includes screatures, milky hoppers, twilight singers, aardips, spindlewebs and the Phoenix. Scraws didn't make it, because they still don't have any tissues defined. I tidied them up a little for you Doris:

Code: (Updated scraws) [Select]
[CREATURE:SCRAW_DRS]
[NAME:scraw:scraws:scraw]
[DESCRIPTION:A large, predatory, four-eyed reptile.]
[CREATURE_TILE:'S']
[COLOR:1:2:0]
[LARGE_PREDATOR]
[BIOME:NOT_FREEZING]
[POPULATION_NUMBER:1:8]
[PET_EXOTIC]
[PETVALUE:50]

[CREPUSCULAR]
[VISION_ARC:20:300]
[MAXAGE:30:90]

[CREATURE_CLASS:WORLDLY]


[BODY:TORSO_BSK:ABDOMEN_BSK:SPINE_BSK:HEART_BSK:LUNG_BSK:GUT_BSK:HEAD_NECK_NOTHROAT_BSK:SKULL_BSK:BRAIN_BSK:EYES_4_DRS:NOSE_BSK:MOUTH_BSK:INCISOR_B

SK:TEETH_GENERIC_BSK:INTERNAL_EARS_BSK:LEG_2PART_FRONT_BSK:LEG_2PART_REAR_BSK:TOES_6_BSK:TAIL_BSK]

[BODYGLOSS:ABDOMEN_BACK_BSK]
[BODYGLOSS:CLAWS_URD]

[ATTACK:BITE:CHILD_BODYPART_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:MOUTH:BY_CATEGORY:TOOTH]
[ATTACK_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:bite:bites]
[ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:4:1]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]

[ATTACK:SLASH:BODYPART:BY_CATEGORY:TOE]
[ATTACK_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:slash:slashes]
[ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:3:1]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]

[BODY_SIZE:0:0:20000]
[BODY_SIZE:2:0:50000]
[BODY_SIZE:10:0:200000]

[CHILD:2]
[GENERAL_CHILD_NAME:scrawling:scrawlings]

[CASTE:STD_MALE]
[CASTE_NAME:scraw:scraws:scraw]
[POP_RATIO:40]
[MALE]
[CREATURE_CLASS:MAGIC_WEAK]
[CASTE:STD_FEMALE]
[CASTE_NAME:scraw:scraws:scraw]
[POP_RATIO:20]
[FEMALE]
[LITTERSIZE:3:5]
[CREATURE_CLASS:MAGIC_WEAK]
[CASTE:FIRE_MALE]
[POP_RATIO:20]
[MALE]
[CASTE_NAME:flame scraw:flame scraws:flame scraw]
[CHILDNAME:flame scrawling:flame scrawlings]
[DESCRIPTION:A large, predatory, four-eyed reptile. The females are known for their flaming breath.]
[COLOR:2:1:0]
[BIOME:ANY_DESERT]
[PETVALUE:80]
[MAXAGE:100:130]
[FIREIMMUNE]
[CREATURE_CLASS:MAGIC_RESIST]
[SPHERE:FIRE]
[CASTE:FIRE_FEMALE]
[POP_RATIO:10]
[FEMALE]
[CASTE_NAME:flame scraw:flame scraws:flame scraw]
[CHILDNAME:flame scrawling:flame scrawlings]
[DESCRIPTION:A large, predatory, four-eyed reptile. The females are known for their flaming breath.]
[COLOR:2:1:0]
[BIOME:ANY_DESERT]
[LITTERSIZE:1:3]
[PETVALUE:100]
[MAXAGE:150:200]
[FIREIMMUNE]
[CREATURE_CLASS:MAGIC_RESIST]
[SPHERE:FIRE]

  [CAN_DO_INTERACTION:MATERIAL_EMISSION]
  [CDI:ADV_NAME:fire breath]
  [CDI:USAGE_HINT:ATTACK]
  [CDI:BP_REQUIRED:BY_CATEGORY:MOUTH]
  [CDI:FLOW:FIREJET]
  [CDI:TARGET:C:LINE_OF_SIGHT]
  [CDI:TARGET_RANGE:C:15]
  [CDI:MAX_TARGET_NUMBER:C:1]
  [CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:50]


[CASTE:GREAT_MALE]
[MALE]
[POP_RATIO:2]
[POPULATION_NUMBER:0:3]
[CASTE_NAME:collossal scraw:collossal scraws:collossal scraw]
[CHILDNAME:scrawling:scrawling]
[DESCRIPTION:A gargantuan reptile with four eyes, known for its immense size]
[LITTERSIZE:1:2]
[PETVALUE:1000]
[MAXAGE:200:300]
[SPHERE:STRENGTH]
[SEMIMEGABEAST]
[CHILD:10]
[PREFSTRING:intimidating bulk]
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:20000]
[BODY_SIZE:10:0:100000]
[BODY_SIZE:50:0:300000]
[BODY_SIZE:200:0:1000000]
[CREATURE_CLASS:MAGIC_RESIST]
[FANCIFUL]

[CASTE:GREAT_FEMALE]
[FEMALE]
[POP_RATIO:1]
[POPULATION_NUMBER:0:2]
[CASTE_NAME:collossal scraw:collossal scraws:collossal scraw]
[CHILDNAME:scrawling:scrawling]
[DESCRIPTION:A gargantuan reptile with four eyes, known for its immense size]
[LITTERSIZE:1:2]
[PETVALUE:1000]
[MAXAGE:200:300]
[SPHERE:STRENGTH]
[SEMIMEGABEAST]
[CHILD:10]
[PREFSTRING:intimidating bulk]
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:20000]
[BODY_SIZE:10:0:100000]
[BODY_SIZE:50:0:300000]
[BODY_SIZE:200:0:1000000]
[CREATURE_CLASS:MAGIC_RESIST]
[FANCIFUL]
[LITTERSIZE:1:2]

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Urdothor

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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #297 on: January 21, 2016, 11:51:13 am »

-snip-

If you're done bug fixing, then that makes it Cerapter's turn now. Hurray for forward motion!  :)

Phoenixes aren't quite finished, but they're finished enough to be implemented for the moment at-least. At the moment they're just flaming birds though.

Glad you got everything that was contributed implemented in.

I think that the embark bug has something to do with structures near edge of map??? Similar bugs have been reported in vanilla before.
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« Reply #298 on: January 21, 2016, 11:53:27 am »

Eh, though I didn't intend the twilight singers to become wagon pullers, I absolutely don't care. I know why you did it, though I'll be replacing them with an actual wagon animal when the time comes.

I'll take over then, though technically, I'll only begin tomorrow afternoon, as I'll have one of my finals final tomorrow morning. And I'll also end sooner, because I'll be having another at the 28th.
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My anaconda man don't want none unless you got 5,000 cm3 of [SELECT_BP:LOWER_BODY:REAR][SELECT_ADDITIONAL_BP:UPPER_LEGS:REAR] hun.

Civilian squads: a suggestion regarding Dwarf Therapist, maintaining stock levels, independent workshop-usage and the military screen.

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« Reply #299 on: January 21, 2016, 11:57:56 am »

Whenever works for you is fine. I can also drop you further down in the list if it's more convenient.

Also, Bearskie, you can sign up for another turn if you want too.
We could continuously cycle out, with turns being the time for major developments and minor contributions between them.

Edit: Doing sketches for an optional graphics pack. The insistence on generic descriptions is killing me.
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