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Keep the vanilla ones

Use an expanded vocabularly

Start entirely from scratch

Cull the words that don't make sense from vanilla, then add words as we go

Other(post it in the comments)

[Urdothor]

That works. Thank you for doing that, and being patient with me. Its been awhile since I did anything major modding-wise.
I tried to balance the organic tissues relative to eachother, with Halflings as a base,  but you still might want to check it out.

Edit: I've just noticed i have ROTS under one of my stones. That isn't intentional.

[Cerapter]

Edit: I've just noticed i have ROTS under one of my stones. That isn't intentional.

That sounds more like a feature than a bug, if ya ask me.

[Urdothor]

Edit: I've just noticed i have ROTS under one of my stones. That isn't intentional.

That sounds more like a feature than a bug, if ya ask me.

If it works, we should keep it. It is dark purple, so...

[Cerapter]

I say we'll see.

Anyway, my contribution put together in like 10 minutes:

Code: (creature_injokes_CER.txt) [Select]

creature_injokes_CER

[OBJECT:CREATURE]

[CREATURE:DWARF_CER]
[NAME:dwarf:dwarves:dwarven]
[CASTE_NAME:dwarf:dwarves:dwarven]
[CREATURE_TILE:1][COLOR:3:0:0]
[FANCIFUL]
[DOES_NOT_EXIST]
[PREFSTRING:stupid dwarven tricks]
[PREFSTRING:beards]
[PREFSTRING:suicidal tendencies]
[ALL_ACTIVE]

[CREATURE:HUMAN_CER]
[NAME:human:humans:human]
[CASTE_NAME:human:humans:human]
[CREATURE_TILE:'U'][COLOR:3:0:0]
[FANCIFUL]
[DOES_NOT_EXIST]
[PREFSTRING:stature]
[ALL_ACTIVE]

[CREATURE:ELF_CER]
[NAME:elf:elves:elven]
[CASTE_NAME:elf:elves:elven]
[CREATURE_TILE:'e'][COLOR:3:0:0]
[FANCIFUL]
[DOES_NOT_EXIST]
[PREFSTRING:grace]
[PREFSTRING:"grace"]
[ALL_ACTIVE]

[CREATURE:GOBLIN_CER]
[NAME:goblin:goblins:goblin]
[CASTE_NAME:goblin:goblins:goblin]
[CREATURE_TILE:'g'][COLOR:7:0:0]
[FANCIFUL]
[DOES_NOT_EXIST]
[PREFSTRING:terrifying features]
[ALL_ACTIVE]

[CREATURE:KOBOLD_CER]
[NAME:kobold:kobolds:kobold]
[CASTE_NAME:kobold:kobolds:kobold]
[CREATURE_TILE:'k'][COLOR:6:0:0]
[FANCIFUL]
[DOES_NOT_EXIST]
[PREFSTRING:mischief]
[PREFSTRING:adorableness]
[ALL_ACTIVE]

[CREATURE:KOBOLD_CER]
[NAME:kobold:kobolds:kobold]
[CASTE_NAME:kobold:kobolds:kobold]
[CREATURE_TILE:'k'][COLOR:6:0:0]
[FANCIFUL]
[DOES_NOT_EXIST]
[PREFSTRING:mischief]
[PREFSTRING:adorableness]
[ALL_ACTIVE]

[CREATURE:HALFLING_CER]
[NAME:halfling:halflings:halfling]
[CASTE_NAME:halfling:halflings:halfling]
[CREATURE_TILE:173][COLOR:6:0:0]
[PREFSTRING:small stature]
        [PREFSTRING:hairy feet]
[FANCIFUL]
[DOES_NOT_EXIST]
[ALL_ACTIVE]

CREATURE:CHIRP_CER]
[NAME:chirp:chirps:chirpy]
[CREATURE_TILE:67]
[COLOR:2:0:1]
[PREFSTRING:colourful feathers]
[FANCIFUL]
[DOES_NOT_EXIST]
[ALL_ACTIVE]

[Urdothor]

I'll save all posted contriutions and add them after Bearskie's done, so he doesnt need to worry about them

[Baffler]

Edit: New idea.

So, I know in the original there wasn't really much at all until like the 3rd turn, and everything was rather bare right?

What if before we start everyone involved submits something? Like everyone submit a few basic things, like a basic creature, stone, plant, etc. before we actually begin?

I just finished the templates, so if we want to do that we can.

I'm still here! I'm a little wary of submitting a creature because it has a lot of dependencies compared other sorts of things, but here's an aboveground plant.

Edit: Now with proper materials definitions!

Spoiler: Vermillion Tree (click to show/hide)

This one's mostly just an aboveground tree that has red wood. It's low to the ground with a wide canopy, and likes wide open areas. Come my modding turn I was thinking of adding a milling reaction to the wood to get red dye, or maybe some kind of trade good.

Code: [Select]

[PLANT:VERMILLION_BAF]
[NAME:vermillion tree][NAME_PLURAL:vermillion trees][ADJ:vermillionwood]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:PLANT_HARD_TEMPLATE_BSK]
[BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:WOOD:WOOD_SOFT_TEMPLATE_BSK]
[STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:vermillionwood]
[STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:vermillionwood]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:RED]
[TREE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:WOOD][TREE_TILE:23]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:LEAF:LEAF_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL:GREEN]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:2:0:0]
[TRUNK_PERIOD:10]
[HEAVY_BRANCH_DENSITY:15]
[BRANCH_DENSITY:50]
[MAX_TRUNK_HEIGHT:2]
[HEAVY_BRANCH_RADIUS:3]
[BRANCH_RADIUS:4]
[TRUNK_BRANCHING:1]
[MAX_TRUNK_DIAMETER:1]
[TRUNK_WIDTH_PERIOD:200]
[ROOT_DENSITY:4]
[ROOT_RADIUS:2]
[STANDARD_TILE_NAMES]
[PREFSTRING:colors]
[PREFSTRING:stockiness]
[DRY]
[BIOME:ANY_SAVANNA]
        [BIOME:ANY_SHRUBLAND]
[SAPLING]
[GROWTH:LEAVES]
[GROWTH_NAME:vermillion tree leaf:vermillion tree leaves]
[GROWTH_ITEM:PLANT_GROWTH:NONE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:LEAF]
[GROWTH_DENSITY:1000]
[GROWTH_HOST_TILE:BRANCHES_AND_TWIGS]
[GROWTH_HOST_TILE:SAPLING]
[GROWTH_TIMING:0:300000]
[GROWTH_PRINT:0:6:2:0:0:0:209999:1]
[GROWTH_PRINT:0:6:6:0:1:210000:239999:1] autumn color
[GROWTH_PRINT:0:6:4:0:1:240000:269999:1]
[GROWTH_PRINT:0:6:4:0:0:270000:300000:1]
[GROWTH_DROPS_OFF]
[GROWTH:FLOWERS]
[GROWTH_NAME:vermillion flower cluster:STP]
[GROWTH_ITEM:PLANT_GROWTH:NONE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:FLOWER]
[GROWTH_DENSITY:1000]
[GROWTH_HOST_TILE:BRANCHES_AND_TWIGS]
[GROWTH_TIMING:60000:99999]
[GROWTH_PRINT:0:5:2:0:0:NONE]
[GROWTH:NUT]
[GROWTH_NAME:vermillion nut:STP]
[GROWTH_ITEM:SEEDS:NONE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:SEED]
[GROWTH_DENSITY:1000]
[GROWTH_HOST_TILE:BRANCHES_AND_TWIGS]
[GROWTH_TIMING:100000:250000]
[GROWTH_DROPS_OFF_NO_CLOUD]
[GROWTH_PRINT:0:7:6:0:0:NONE]


[Urdothor]

Baffler, we have templates posted earlier if you intend to post more items. I'll put them somewhere obvious on the front page in a bit.

[Baffler]

Huh, dunno how I missed those. I've updated it with the new templates. I'll put together some other plants too while I'm at it, and edit them into this post.

Edit: Just one for now, the salmon cane, a brewable aboveground plant that's edible raw or cooked. So named for its ubiquity and resemblance to a cane. They can be found in great number near pretty much any body of water, but cannot be farmed.

Spoiler: RAWs (click to show/hide)

Code: [Select]

[PLANT:CANE_SALMON_BAF]
[NAME:salmon cane][NAME_PLURAL:salmon canes][ADJ:salmon cane]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:PLANT_SOFT_TEMPLATE_BSK]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
[MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:DRINK_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:DRINK]
[BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
[EDIBLE_VERMIN]
[EDIBLE_RAW]
[EDIBLE_COOKED]
[PICKED_TILE:159][PICKED_COLOR:2:0:0]
[VALUE:2]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:DRINK:PLANT_ALCOHOL_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen salmon beer]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:salmon beer]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:salmon beer fumes]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:2:0:0]
[EDIBLE_RAW]
[EDIBLE_COOKED]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[DRINK:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:DRINK]
[SPRING][SUMMER][AUTUMN]
[FREQUENCY:120]
[CLUSTERSIZE:15]
[PREFSTRING:rapid growth]
[WET]
[BIOME:NOT_FREEZING]

[Urdothor]

Huh, dunno how I missed those. I've updated it with the new templates. I'll put together some other plants too while I'm at it, and edit them into this post.

Don't worry about it.  Glad to have some submissions to get this rolling.

[Urdothor]

This is a double post, but it is a new topic, so I think it's alright.

What are your thoughts on using DFHack with this mod? It would let us do more, but it does pull us away from the original DFFS and vanilla. I'd like some opinions on the matter.

[Bearskie]

I vote no to avoid burdening the save with dfhack. DFSIII isnt the sort of mod one would use on a regular basis; it's more of a one time, check-out thing. If raw bugs were bad, wait till the hack bugs set in.

[Dwarf4Explosives]

Yeah, I'd rather avoid adding more complexity to this. We have enough bugs already. I'd keep it limited to RAW files and at most a graphics pack.

[Bearskie]

Building blocks are complete!

I will get started on actually making things with the remainder of my turn now, but here's my current save for those who want to make their own additions. It contains the latest templates and materials.

BP - Urd's file contains several complete sets. The bsk file is more modular so you can mix and match BP's.
Body detail plan - Unlike vanilla, these detail plans handle both layering and positioning for specific regions of the creature. For example, body, leg, or arms. Remember to remove any materials or tissues that you don't use. (keratin scales/chitin spring to mind)
Creature variations - Gaits are unchanged.
Material template - Organ tissue and nerve tissue are the main materials for internal organs. Keratin is used for a variety of reasons.
Tissue template - Removed the arteries and major arteries tokens. If you want a tissue to gush blood (say, the heart), you have to do it the vanilla way (tl add major arteries)

Aside from the above, there is an excel file in the Information for Modders folder that contains some useful information on material values and detail plans.

Note.
Still a few bugs cropping up for some niggling reasons. Most values are not set in stone; there will likely be changes to material properties or detail plans to fix balance issues. Right now, the heightened bone density in this mod has, instead of making creatures more durable to pain, made their punches more capable of exploding skulls in gore.

[Urdothor]

Right now, the heightened bone density in this mod has, instead of making creatures more durable to pain, made their punches more capable of exploding skulls in gore.

Definitely need to drop down the values of bone a bit then.

[Bearskie]

It's alot more to do with the body detail plans -- bone tissue layers are too thick.