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What should we do for the language_words (We can use custom symbols)?

Keep the vanilla ones
Use an expanded vocabularly
Start entirely from scratch
Cull the words that don't make sense from vanilla, then add words as we go
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Author Topic: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession  (Read 67090 times)

XhAPPYSLApX

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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #75 on: December 30, 2015, 08:53:47 pm »
I wish I was a better modder, so I can join in on that end. But I would love to play through all the crazy stuff everyone puts together :D
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #76 on: December 30, 2015, 09:10:36 pm »
Quote from: XhAPPYSLApX on December 30, 2015, 08:53:47 pm
I wish I was a better modder, so I can join in on that end. But I would love to play through all the crazy stuff everyone puts together :D

I can stick you in the player pool then.

Edit: Bearskie! My beautiful pink trees! How could you take them from me?!
Wood feels so orange that its not even funny.

Otherwise, I like it.  :)
« Last Edit: December 30, 2015, 09:25:45 pm by Urdothor »
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #77 on: December 30, 2015, 09:45:11 pm »
The point is that wood colors can be modded, so you could redirect it to 4:0:0 for dark brown. Although I might be biased towards liking orange wood. :P

Pink trees? Light magenta is still pink ya know? I might have to make it a little bit brighter - more hot pink than pastel pink.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #78 on: December 30, 2015, 09:54:06 pm »
Quote from: Bearskie on December 30, 2015, 09:45:11 pm
The point is that wood colors can be modded, so you could redirect it to 4:0:0 for dark brown. Although I might be biased towards liking orange wood. :P

Pink trees? Light magenta is still pink ya know? I might have to make it a little bit brighter - more hot pink than pastel pink.

I haven't actually seen any of these alternate colors yet. I just know my poor pink trees are red now.  :(
I know there is a pink, it's just not showing on my world, though it IS a vanilla world.

Do the things you've submitted work with these colors?
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #79 on: December 30, 2015, 10:17:18 pm »
Is this a repeating succession? If so, I may consider trying out modding so I can get in on the modding too.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #80 on: December 30, 2015, 10:23:25 pm »
Quote from: XhAPPYSLApX on December 30, 2015, 10:17:18 pm
Is this a repeating succession? If so, I may consider trying out modding so I can get in on the modding too.
Define repeating succession?

It's a bit of a spiritual succession. Since almost all things done during a modding turn require a new world, we aren't passing down a fortress, so much as the game itself, and people doing playing turns give a bit of a view of the world as it stands.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #81 on: December 30, 2015, 10:32:24 pm »
Quote from: Urdothor on December 30, 2015, 10:23:25 pm
Quote from: XhAPPYSLApX on December 30, 2015, 10:17:18 pm
Is this a repeating succession? If so, I may consider trying out modding so I can get in on the modding too.
Define repeating succession?

It's a bit of a spiritual succession. Since almost all things done during a modding turn require a new world, we aren't passing down a fortress, so much as the game itself, and people doing playing turns give a bit of a view of the world as it stands.
As in the same players play an indefinite amount of turns, starting over with the person at the top of the list.

Basically repeating the list after it reaches the last person.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #82 on: December 30, 2015, 11:15:20 pm »
Ah. Yes, the list can be repeated unless someone new would like a turn. They get mild preferential treatment.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #83 on: December 30, 2015, 11:37:00 pm »
^ I think what he's meaning to say is whether it'll be like the Windy Universes thread, where an upper limit of players is imposed and we only cycle through the old players.

Put the finishing touches on my color set. Here's a comparison between it and vanilla.

Vanilla


Proposed


Code: (colors.txt) [Select]
[BLACK_R:0]
[BLACK_G:0]
[BLACK_B:0]
[BLUE_R:18] Default+
[BLUE_G:51]
[BLUE_B:175]
[GREEN_R:0]
[GREEN_G:128]
[GREEN_B:0]
[CYAN_R:0]
[CYAN_G:128]
[CYAN_B:128]
[RED_R:175] Just brown
[RED_G:69]
[RED_B:20]
[MAGENTA_R:163]128 More bright magenta
[MAGENTA_G:17]
[MAGENTA_B:192]128
[BROWN_R:235] Dusk
[BROWN_G:136]
[BROWN_B:0]
[LGRAY_R:192]
[LGRAY_G:192]
[LGRAY_B:192]
[DGRAY_R:51]185 Dark Sands (Light Gray - Indigo)
[DGRAY_G:69]152
[DGRAY_B:84]115
[LBLUE_R:0] Default+
[LBLUE_G:114]
[LBLUE_B:255]
[LGREEN_R:0]
[LGREEN_G:255]
[LGREEN_B:0]
[LCYAN_R:0]
[LCYAN_G:255]
[LCYAN_B:255]
[LRED_R:200] Less bright red
[LRED_G:0]
[LRED_B:0]
[LMAGENTA_R:255]255 Bone (Light Magenta - Pink)
[LMAGENTA_G:66]32
[LMAGENTA_B:130]141
[YELLOW_R:255]
[YELLOW_G:255]
[YELLOW_B:0]
[WHITE_R:255]
[WHITE_G:255]
[WHITE_B:255]
Spoiler:  Wiki dump (click to show/hide)

Changes:
  • 2 shades of red ---> 1
  • 2 shades of purple ---> 1
  • modified blue
  • - vanilla's brown
  • - dark grey
  • + real brown
  • + indigo grey
  • + pink
  • + orange

What do you think? I like it because it allows us to play with more colors than usual, while still keeping that vanilla flavor. Plus, it's vibrant, and the style definitely helps us to distinguish ourselves from regular DF.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2015, 11:44:08 pm by Bearskie »
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Urdothor

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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #84 on: December 31, 2015, 12:04:04 am »
I quite like that actually. It'll certainly feel much different than vanilla, and I like having more colors. I can put it up on the poll, to see if people like the idea? I like having more colors to work with.

Could we arrange the colors so that the hard coded colors draw from better slots? 4 0 and 4 1 being magma I believe, and 1 0 and 1 1 being water, as well as some hardcoded sky and ice slots.

Edit: Swap the orange, brown and red around so our magma isn't brown?
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #85 on: December 31, 2015, 12:29:47 am »
I've already accounted for the hardcoded slots. Water feels alright to me, sky and ice is the same as vanilla.

6 0 is the LOS check, unit crouch background and designations, which don't look quite right in brown, and 4 0 is the background of a dead unit, which looks really weird in orange. The magma is only brown on the level above; and trust me, it appears quite right ingame.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #86 on: December 31, 2015, 12:32:34 am »
Quote from: Bearskie on December 31, 2015, 12:29:47 am
I've already accounted for the hardcoded slots. Water feels alright to me, sky and ice is the same as vanilla.

6 0 is the LOS check, unit crouch background and designations, which don't look quite right in brown, and 4 0 is the background of a dead unit, which looks really weird in orange. The magma is only brown on the level above; and trust me, it appears quite right ingame.

I wasn't sure if you had or not. Perhaps the brown looks good do to a contrast with the other colors. Regardless, I really like the palette. Would I need to recolor your submission? Probably, I think.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #87 on: December 31, 2015, 12:33:45 am »
PTW, this looks highly fascinating. I won't be taking a turn, I think.
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Muh FG--OOC Thread
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Is there a word that combines comedy with tragedy and farce?
Heiterverzweiflung. Not a legit German word so much as something a friend and I made up in German class once. "Carefree despair". When life is so fucked that you can't stop laughing.
http://www.collinsdictionary.com

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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #88 on: December 31, 2015, 12:40:56 am »
Quote from: Amperzand on December 31, 2015, 12:33:45 am
PTW, this looks highly fascinating. I won't be taking a turn, I think.
If you change your mind, the doors always open. Hope it turns out to be quite entertaining for you.
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Re: DF from Scratch Redux - An entirely player made universe succession
« Reply #89 on: December 31, 2015, 12:47:03 am »
Oh, certainly. I've just got the twin issues of college in five days and no experience with modding. I'll probably be active/providing hilariously impractical ideas, though.
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Muh FG--OOC Thread
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Quote from: Shadowlord
Is there a word that combines comedy with tragedy and farce?
Heiterverzweiflung. Not a legit German word so much as something a friend and I made up in German class once. "Carefree despair". When life is so fucked that you can't stop laughing.
http://www.collinsdictionary.com
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