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Keep the vanilla ones

Use an expanded vocabularly

Start entirely from scratch

Cull the words that don't make sense from vanilla, then add words as we go

Other(post it in the comments)

[Urdothor]

Unlike what Bearskie said, it's male flame scraws that can't breathe fire. Simply copy the interaction from the females below.
Also in scraws, they have attacks defined at the bottom, but they only apply to the last defined caste. a [SELECT_CASTE:ALL] before the attacks should fix that, if I recall correctly.
KERATIN_SCALE_TEMPLATE_URD has PAIN_RECEPTORS defined twice, delete one of them.
Also played around with the tissue PAIN_RECEPTORS as I posted above, but there's nothing set in stone, yet, so that doesn't really matter.

Alright. And I'll take a quick moderator turn to make sure the changes get made, and implement my inorganic templates.

[Dorsidwarf]

It is intended that only female flame scraws breathe fire (see description)


Thanks for fixing my sucky-ass raws up, too. I've never coded anything for DF other than a rock type in the first dffs.
That sucks that you got hurt, ceraptor. I hope you recover well, man.

[chaotic skies]

Yeah I was about to say only female scraws breathe fire, but I couldn't remember if that was right or not, so I ended up taking too long and missed my chance

[Urdothor]

Baffler can't start his turn till Sunday anyway, so that gives me a full day to apply changes and such.

I'm going to try thickening the areas of the body not used in combat, torso, neck, abdomen, etc. to see if that helps combat some of the combat issues. I'm also going to reduce pain values to 3/4 vanilla.

[Dorsidwarf]

Baffler can't start his turn till Sunday anyway, so that gives me a full day to apply changes and such.

I'm going to try thickening the areas of the body not used in combat, torso, neck, abdomen, etc. to see if that helps combat some of the combat issues. I'm also going to reduce pain values to 3/4 vanilla.

Giant Scraw bones, by the way, are supposed to have very low pain receptors. Its a magical giant with metal bones, after all.

[Urdothor]

Yes, but the issue is all the pain receptors appear to be too high.

[DolosusDoleus]

Just read up on all the progress, and I'm loving the scraws. Nice job!

Also, sorry about your face Cerapter. That really sucks.

[chaotic skies]

Cats can be just as bad or worse. While a dogs mouth is (noramlly) fairly clean, a cat's claws are disgusting, unless you bathe your cat almost every day, and even then...it's not the best feeling, having your face shreaded and then becoming infected.

[Dwarf4Explosives]

Eh, ain't my fault. Though I'll go ahead and fix it.

EDIT: I just saw your pain suggestion, I'll see how that'll work out. Now that I'm checking it, muscle has +3 pain receptors, bone has +50, tooth has 10 (originally none) and organs have +11. So there's that.

I'd like to note that, in real life, breaking bones may be less painful than minor cuts due to the reduced number of pain receptors that deep.

[Urdothor]

I'd like to note that, in real life, breaking bones may be less painful than minor cuts due to the reduced number of pain receptors that deep.

I find it depends on the person, and how it's broken. When I break bones, I feel nothing at all really. Some people break bones and they're down for the count, so to speak.

[Dorsidwarf]

Uh oh. I just tested scraws in the arena and all of them only use "push" attacks with latest ceraptor raws

E: Also, flame scraws work fine, but all scraws are named as "Scraw x", regardless of caste.

[Urdothor]

Uh oh. I just tested scraws in the arena and all of them only use "push" attacks with latest ceraptor raws

He didn't get a chance to re-upload after fixing them, that's why. I've fixed it since then.

[Baffler]

I'd like to note that, in real life, breaking bones may be less painful than minor cuts due to the reduced number of pain receptors that deep.

I find it depends on the person, and how it's broken. When I break bones, I feel nothing at all really. Some people break bones and they're down for the count, so to speak.

I'm not a doctor or anything, but I vaguely remember someone saying something about breaking bones doing a lot of damage to surrounding tissue that does have lots of pain receptors (with shards, fragments, blunt trauma, etc.) and vanilla bone has such high pain modifiers to model that.

[Dorsidwarf]

Something's not right with flame scraws here, I think.

[Urdothor]

I'd like to note that, in real life, breaking bones may be less painful than minor cuts due to the reduced number of pain receptors that deep.

I find it depends on the person, and how it's broken. When I break bones, I feel nothing at all really. Some people break bones and they're down for the count, so to speak.

I'm not a doctor or anything, but I vaguely remember someone saying something about breaking bones doing a lot of damage to surrounding tissue that does have lots of pain receptors (with shards, fragments, blunt trauma, etc.) and vanilla bone has such high pain modifiers to model that.

That must be why my broken bones have never hurt. I always cleanly break them, so not much trauma to the surrounding tissue. I'll try to find a balance of values that works decently.