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Kuwait Airlines scraps all flights between New York and London, because no Israe
« on: December 20, 2015, 07:02:52 am »
In a reaction to the US Authorities threatening with a lawsuit, Kuwait Airlines has decided to scrap all flights between New York and London.

Reason for the lawsuit is the complaint of an Israelian citizen, Eldad Gadd. This person tried to book a flight to the US with Kuwait Airlines in 2013, but when he wanted to complete the transaction, he found out that the Kuwait Airlines booking software does not accept "Israelian Nationality". So he was unable to complete the transaction and book a flight.

After he filed a complaint with the international airspace authorities, the American Department of Transportation asked Kuwait to rectify this.
The reaction by Kuwait was "in our country, it is forbidden by law to do business with jews".

The US Authority responded by saying this was inacceptable, and that any airline company that wishes to operate in the US, will have to know that the US does not tolerate any form of discrimination in their airspace.

They gave the Kuwait ailiner 15 days to respond, and and alter their policy, or they would face criminal charges.

The Kuwait response was to scrap all flights from New York to London.

We should have let Saddam Hussein keep Kuwait back in the days  >:(
« Last Edit: December 20, 2015, 07:53:56 pm by martinuzz »
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Re: Kuwait Airlines scraps all flights between New York and London, no jews allowed
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2015, 07:04:47 am »
What. Why would... ah screw it. This is why Arabs can't have nice things.
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Re: Kuwait Airlines scraps all flights between New York and London, no jews allowed
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2015, 07:12:11 am »
Stupidity like this is why the arab world went from the pinnacle of educational enlightenment, to a backwater where education goes to die.

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Re: Kuwait Airlines scraps all flights between New York and London, no jews allowed
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2015, 07:21:13 am »
Well, if you count regions that were mostly non-arab and non-muslim at the time as the "arab world", just because they were tiled by Arabs, I guess.
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Re: Kuwait Airlines scraps all flights between New York and London, no jews allowed
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2015, 07:34:42 am »
Morbid cynicism, but it gets results. That's humanity for you.
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Re: Kuwait Airlines scraps all flights between New York and London, no jews allowed
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2015, 07:36:02 am »
There's something grimly hilarious about this when the states have major politicians calling for a complete ban of muslims entering the nation, and have a history of fairly complete travel sanctions regarding other countries *coughcubacough*. I guess it's only a problem when other nations do it :V
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Re: Kuwait Airlines scraps all flights between New York and London, no jews allowed
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2015, 07:42:32 am »
Not thee same thing.

A person from Cuba can still enter the US, just not directly from Cuba. (they can enter via Venuzela, or Brazil, or any place like that.)
The prohibition is not against Cubans, specifically, as a racial group.

In this case, the airline forbids making transactions with Jews.  Jews live in more places than just Israel. This means that the Rabbi living near Times Square cant board a flight any more than this guy could.

One is a political prohibition on transportation to and from a specific country, the other is a prohibition on commerce in general with a racial group.

NOT the same.
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Re: Kuwait Airlines scraps all flights between New York and London, no jews allowed
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2015, 07:45:50 am »
Quote from: wierd on December 20, 2015, 07:42:32 am
Not thee same thing.

A person from Cuba can still enter the US, just not directly from Cuba. (they can enter via Venuzela, or Brazil, or any place like that.)
The prohibition is not against Cubans, specifically, as a racial group.

In this case, the airline forbids making transactions with Jews.  Jews live in more places than just Israel. This means that the Rabbi living near Times Square cant board a flight any more than this guy could.

One is a political prohibition on transportation to and from a specific country, the other is a prohibition on commerce in general with a racial group.

NOT the same.
Yeah, but isn't the argument more along the lines that Kuwait does not recognize Israel as a state, with the 'business with jews' being a mental shorthand here?
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Re: Kuwait Airlines scraps all flights between New York and London, no jews allowed
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2015, 07:49:33 am »
I wouldnt be too sure of that. It may very well be illegal in the country they operate from, to do business with Jews. (as in, people of Jewish-Semitic origin or religious affiliation.)

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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2015, 08:38:32 am »
Quote from: scrdest on December 20, 2015, 07:45:50 am
Quote from: wierd on December 20, 2015, 07:42:32 am
Not thee same thing.

A person from Cuba can still enter the US, just not directly from Cuba. (they can enter via Venuzela, or Brazil, or any place like that.)
The prohibition is not against Cubans, specifically, as a racial group.

In this case, the airline forbids making transactions with Jews.  Jews live in more places than just Israel. This means that the Rabbi living near Times Square cant board a flight any more than this guy could.

One is a political prohibition on transportation to and from a specific country, the other is a prohibition on commerce in general with a racial group.

NOT the same.
Yeah, but isn't the argument more along the lines that Kuwait does not recognize Israel as a state, with the 'business with jews' being a mental shorthand here?

Probably the other way around where the "Not doing business with Jews" mentality leads to "Not recognizing Israel".
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Re: Kuwait Airlines scraps all flights between New York and London, no jews allowed
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2015, 08:46:14 am »
Yes, yes, they're not ˾literally identical practices. ̚ Just close enough in sentiment and execution the parallels are more than a little obvious. And I guess, being fair, the US hasn't actually gone through with a blanket ban against a religious/ethnic group! Yet.

It's still morbidly amusing to see a country with large swaths of the population calling for exactly what kuwait is doing making a fuss about it. Hell, if the polls are even remotely resembling representative there's more people in the US that's professing support for that kind of behavior than kuwait has people, period.

Mind, m'not exactly saying kuwait shouldn't be shit on from on high for the practice, but still. S'maybe just a wee bit of hypocrisy going on.
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2015, 08:49:34 am »
Not even remotely close matey.
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Re: Kuwait Airlines scraps all flights between New York and London, no jews allowed
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2015, 09:25:20 am »
Yeah, not wanting to let Muslims enter the US out of fear of them attacking the country, and not doing business with Jews because Jews are degenerate vermin who only deserve extermination isn't exactly the same kind of thing, Frumple.
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Re: Kuwait Airlines scraps all flights between New York and London, no jews allowed
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2015, 09:31:41 am »
Because there's no stateside call for the complete extermination of muslims and Israel has no history of aggression and/or terrorist acts, of course ::)
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Re: Kuwait Airlines scraps all flights between New York and London, no jews allowed
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2015, 09:32:23 am »
Thankfully parts of government still function properly even when idiot politicians say trash like "we should forbid all Muslims entering the country". That sort of thing is still illegal by US law whether a far right wing politician is calling for it or not. Otherwise I agree the sentiment. US politics is pretty hypocritical about these things. I've heard the US government described as a multi-headed, tentacled beast before, with different departments having completely different attitudes & policies on an issue before.
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