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[Unholy_Pariah]

dunno if id rate ebony over cho to be honest, care to elaborate on your thoughts about those spells?

[Lenglon]

The critical deciding spell is ebony's healspell. Its the best healing any character has by a huge margin, and healspells bring back the abilities of another character. so it kinda counts as a placeholder <insert other character's ability here> spell, on top of what it does in of itself.

[Unholy_Pariah]

i wouldnt really count the placeholder effect myself.
its only really effective if the teammate is still alive, we saw a LOT of insta-kills this mission, and the end result is only as useful as that teammate.

So in my mind you are basically saying ebony is the most versatile because she's the best at one thing.
I find that rather humorous.

Edit:
Also if you recall ebony cast that spell on herself along with cho's treatment and recovery buff and she's still not back to fighting shape, so it's not actually as powerful as it first appears.

[Lenglon]

Nah, I listed the critical decider. the spell roster as a whole has pretty low overlap, and either fills niche roles or abilities, or applies multipurpose effects.

[Unholy_Pariah]

Yeah, I really wanted the whole picture so we could have a nice discussion about it.

I see that she has the really good heal, the scout spell and the decent combat spell line-up, but her big bunch of trap focused and magic identification spells are too niche and rarely encountered for me to rank her as truly versatile.

Cho on the other hand can do literally anything any bug can, and if he finds something he can't deal with he can just go into a food coma and come out with the tools to overcome the problem...
Plus he has medical skills, sorcery, tankiness out the wazoo and close to mid range combat effectiveness.
He can, or has the capacity to, do anything short of interact socially...

[Lenglon]

True, but this isnt ER. I think social interaction rolls have been the most common of all rolls in the game thus far. thats a major limiter there. one ebony doesnt have.

Also, Cho's roster of abilities should be compared to Aylia's. Because if Aylia beats cho, and ebony beats Aylia, then transitive property applies. The thing Cho brings that Aylia doesnt is tankyness, but thats more a power thing than a versatility one.

[syvarris]

I'm tempted to agree that Ebony's the most versatile, but looking at the sheets I'd have to go with Aylia in that category.  The only hole she has is a lack of magical healing; but every other ability category she at least has something.  She isn't tanky at all, but even her stat deficiencies don't matter that much in Frost Giant forms.  She is both a melee and ranged damage dealer.  She has charisma and leadership ability.  General intelligence.  Flight.  Stealth.  Even non-magical healing equivalent to Cho's, and that's her largest gap!

In every area that I can think of, Aylia has something, whereas there's clear holes in both Cho and Ebony's skillsets; the former isn't charismatic or a leader, the latter can't fly, the former doesn't have many ranged options, the latter is squishy as hell.

Yeah, Ebony certainly has the most versatile magic--she's a traditional wizard who can have essentially unlimited spells!  She just doesn't have the number needed to be as flexible, yet.

And Cho?  He's a giant bug that apparently hates talking.  That's nearly as much of a handicap as Dar being a cat.  Better in most cases, but very much hinders social situations.  Sorcery is powerful, but magic capable of anything a bug can do is still vastly more limited than "All magic", like Ebony, and mostly replicable by Aylia's ability to just be any bug, if she can copy the form beforehand.

[Ozarck]

Well then, I'm not going to have much to do unless you bring stuff to me. What kind of people have been passing through here?

The usual. Gnomes, Tall skinny things, Short fat things, a giant frog demon, three fairies, a rock troll, seven hooded figures - humanoid, a snake.

Struggle a bit and grumble
Rolland struggles a bit, grumbling
"Y'mind letting me out? Don't like being tied up like a beast to be slaughtered."

"Not good at listening, I see."

[AbstractTraitorHero]

((wrist band with a small container sewn into it. I'm grabbing said wristband and opening said container...I wrote it as watch for some reason....also noir at least tried to eat that bread ration so she's at least ate something..
Its its most likely in one of her hands also what happened with the water in that action did I roll badly? And just not find water as well?))

[Egan_BW]

Spoiler: here we go, down the rabbit hole again (click to show/hide)

Name: Caroline-Evelyn
Race: Wacky invertible Intelligent Psychic Parasitic Symbiotic Spider-human symbiote

Stats:
Strength: +0
Constitution: -1
Speed: +1
Dexterity: +0
Intelligence: +0
Memory: -1
Will: +1
Charisma: +0

Skills:
Unarmed combat: +2
Blunt weapons: -2
Sharp weapons: +0
Ranged weapons: -2
Magic: +0
Medicine: +0
General knowledge: +1
Skill Mastery: +0

Specializations:
Body of Glaives: Intelligent Psychic Parasitic Symbiotic Spiders are covered in organic knives. Not very nice for walking on tightropes, or giving people friendly hugs. But very nice for ripping people to shreds.
Royal Surveyor: Caroline was once one of the Queen's surveyors, traveling among worlds, and sometimes looting a few key items. While having a Intelligent Psychic Parasitic Symbiotic Spider living inside of one does no good to one's concentration, sheer skill does not fade.
Touch of the Not-Yet-Understood: Spooky, strange, only-somewhat-controlled psychic effects. Affects one's mind, not their soul.

Description: Caroline is a downright unhealthy looking woman, pale in every way; indeed, she seems near devoid of any color whatsoever. Upon close examination, dark limbs can be seen shifting, just below her semi-translucent skin. Upon her back, following her spine, is a gaping wound, surrounded by long solidified blood. When Evelyn has reason and opportunity to emerge, unnaturally long arachnid limbs will emerge from this wound, tipped with razor-sharp blades. The transformation is swift, yet gruesome; Evelyn herself is a man-sized arthropod, obviously far larger than is common for this realm, yet also more jagged and irregular. In this state, Evelyn bears a matching scar on the underside of her cephalothorax, likewise stained by ancient blue blood, evident proof of these two creatures' mutual pact.

How did you become part of the Omega Legion?: Via Omega standard quarantine. After a full month of observation, they were found to not be an infectious or violent threat, and cleared for field duty.

Background: Caroline was once part of a surveying expedition to a newly discovered body. Said body happened to be the home of the Intelligent Psychic Parasitic Symbiotic Spiders, or IPPSS for short. These creatures are truly alien to our kind, and first contact was grisly, and fatal to both parties. By the end, only a single pair survived, having the good fortune of a hardy constitution and compatible (though still alien) minds. With little other choice, the pair retreated to our land, where they were treated os abominations. Perhaps rightly.

[spazyak]

"M'names Rolland. Happy? Can I please know where I am and what is going to happen?"

[Loki987]

"My name is Horatio, you pleb. Release me and bring me to my quarters, immediatley"

[spazyak]

Rolland gives out a scoff
 "Oh great. Please tell me I won't have to deal with this guy."

[Ozarck]

A very interesting character, Egan. Approved.

"M'names Rolland. Happy? Can I please know where I am and what is going to happen?"

A boot presses on your neck. You feel a strong tug on your wrists, and then a similar one on your ankles.
"There is a trigger, placed upon you. Use your pact on anyone from Omega, or anyone in the Queen's service, and the trigger will activate. Serve well, however, and you will have opportunity to use your pact in our behalf." With that, the boots move out of sight, and your arms flop down to your sides.

"My name is Horatio, you pleb. Release me and bring me to my quarters, immediatley"

"Your quarters? Horatio, we have much more interesting plans for you than that." You are hauled unceremoniously up and over someone's shoulder, and carried away from teh still supine Rolland. You must have blacked out after this, because when you come to, you are falling. You land with a jarring splash. It jolts yu awake, and you find that your restraints have been removed, as you are able to thrash about in the water and barely keep your head above the surface. You are in a dark place, and can see nothing.

[spazyak]

Try to get up and look about where I am
Rolland Grumbles a bit before speaking out with annoyance
"So, I take it I am free to go?"