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Author Topic: Bring Your Own Song - Game Over! SK Victory!  (Read 74454 times)

Tiruin

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Re: Bring Your Own Song - Day 3: the story of the mafia and town [9/16]
« Reply #795 on: January 13, 2016, 07:44:45 pm »

Gahh, 3 hours till day end--and yesterday was spent busy finishing academic works (and trying to login to B12 but utterly failing due to umph >_>). Post will come in ~6 hours...but then day end comes.

Extend?

...Also ZU, if you're watching, the post tracker needs to be updoot'd ._. (because it lists ME having more posts than many of the other people here xD [meaning many posts are lacking and...this thing seriously is needed])



So there's been no change to the votecount as of now. I do NOT suspect TBF for being scum (spec. Mafia anyway), due to the inconsistency of team-behavior, and a rather erratic self-behavior.

Hazard raised my suspicion on a re-check [but d-tails later, please extend?]
H4zardZ1, what do you have to say about this?
Am i a lurker? Are i am even active on the forum when i am not posting? What else makes me scummy, if not the lurking thing?
You answer the first and third question, the answer of the second question is yep, right after the n2 ended but only a while.
Tomasque OSG's vote still makes you look really suspicious
Ok, so it looks like OSG believes Tomasque, or he at least believes Tomasque enough that he thinks H4zardZ1 is scummier.
TDS: Looks like you like to bandwagon with someone who can't say anything. Prove that you have anything else that bothers me as a scum.
Do i have to claim now?
Because of the wording mentioned here--and the query at the endpoint. Why ask when you have to claim? Why is the wording as such here--when pertaining to someone else?

While I see the same kind of wording with TBF [a scum], the wording in his note is very different in the third-person.

Tomasque
While I can understand several points mentioned here [as well as the attitude of invisi-claiming] there's a rather blatant option in your fullclaim that's misleading to me. You CAN act at night, with an action THAT IS ALWAYS ANNOUNCED, with your ONLY ONE ACTION taking up your whole night action, leading merely to say 'I am marked'. Your other 2 actions are one-shots which waste a whole day's vote on a revive [w/o roleflip, and another one that kills you thus wasting anything targeting you for a whole night; neither are mentioned as to when they can occur--presumed to be day/night one-shots], and you presumably gain a DAY ONE SHOT [presumably in the impact of the action] that prevents everyone from voting you...for the rest of the day.
Why the fish wood anyone want to kill off a survivor that badly? It seems oddly fishy given the ostensive definition of it all. Though I've to ask everyone else what they think, especially TBF who was the only one who reacted when I pointed it out. :v

And I will expound on this later because LACKING TIME [IRL]>_<
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Re: Bring Your Own Song - Day 3: the story of the mafia and town [9/16]
« Reply #796 on: January 13, 2016, 07:47:04 pm »

Extend. Again.
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Re: Bring Your Own Song - Day 3: the story of the mafia and town [9/16]
« Reply #797 on: January 13, 2016, 07:51:30 pm »

...Also ZU, if you're watching, the post tracker needs to be updoot'd ._. (because it lists ME having more posts than many of the other people here xD [meaning many posts are lacking and...this thing seriously is needed])
Make sure the Clear db first option is checked.  Otherwise, the tracker will fail like this.
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Re: Bring Your Own Song - Day 3: the story of the mafia and town [9/16]
« Reply #798 on: January 13, 2016, 08:14:59 pm »

Extend.

@Tiruin:It's gut suspicion that Tomasque fits his role WAY too well.

And the highly visible but allegedly useless night action.

It just doesn't FIT.
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Re: Bring Your Own Song - Day 3: the story of the mafia and town [9/16]
« Reply #799 on: January 13, 2016, 08:21:33 pm »

Votecount:
* FallacyofUrist - {0}
* TheDarkStar - {0}
* Teneb - {0}
* fillipk - {0}
* Deus Asmoth - {0}
* TheBiggerFish - Deus Asmoth, fillipk, FallacyofUrist {3}
* Tiruin - {0}
* H4zardZ1 - origamiscienceguy, TheDarkStar, Tiruin {3}
* Tomasque - TheBiggerFish, Tiruin {2}
No Lynch - {0}

5 to hammer.

Not Voting: Teneb, H4zardZ1, H4zardZ1, Tomasque

Extension requests: 3/5 (Tiruin, FallacyofUrist, TheBiggerFish)

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Re: Bring Your Own Song - Day 3: the story of the mafia and town [9/16]
« Reply #800 on: January 13, 2016, 10:31:03 pm »

FoU:
Why have you not addressed it at all? What do you think about it?
How is it a decent piece of evidence for you, and what does it prove for you? That's what I want to know.
Well, it obviously seems to be implying something that the moderator is unwilling to say: Marks (at least my marks) only last for one day. And as I stated earlier... that would make me one very inconvenienced arsonist, now wouldn't it?

Mod: am i still marked?
fillipk: You were not marked N2.
This alone should probably convince you. Jack clearly implies that marks only last for one day, making them nigh-useless to an arsonist.

Now in my eyes it seems that you already should have known what I thought, and that you were deflecting... but no one's free of error, and it could have just been a mistake on either of our parts. Whatever it was, it was (probably) cleared up now. Now could you please answer my question?

Tiruin:
Tomasque
You CAN act at night, with an action THAT IS ALWAYS ANNOUNCED, with your ONLY ONE ACTION taking up your whole night action, leading merely to say 'I am marked'.
Understandable, but how does it being my only (non one-shot) make you think it's far more powerful than I say it is. You yourself state later that I have abilities that "waste a whole day's vote on a revive," " kills [me] thus wasting anything targeting [me] for a whole night," and "prevents everyone from voting [me]...for the rest of the day." How does this lead you to believe that my (non one-shot) night action is worth hiding if all my other ones I stated truthfully? Wouldn't it mean that my night action must be something very powerful, more powerful than the one-shots that have been restricted to being "one-shot" because of just how powerful they are?

Also: Don't type in all caps. Every time I read that, I can hear poketwo in my head. It is not a good sound.

Your other 2 actions are one-shots which waste a whole day's vote on a revive [w/o roleflip, and another one that kills you thus wasting anything targeting you for a whole night; neither are mentioned as to when they can occur--presumed to be day/night one-shots], and you presumably gain a DAY ONE SHOT [presumably in the impact of the action] that prevents everyone from voting you...for the rest of the day.
Note: responses will be color-coded according to what part of the text they respond to.
 Frankly, this is isn't a good ability. It doesn't prevent kills, since it kills me. It doesn't prevent RBs, since I'm RBing myself by going out of my way to use it. It doesn't prevent investigations, but I don't care about those since I'm not scum. It doesn't prevent ability steals, since I'm losing my best ability - an extra life - (not to mention, this very ability) by using it. In fact, the only things it blocks are very unique abilities - probably only in the hands of one or two players - that I would have little warning against due to the fact I cannot account for something that the GM made up on the spot. It seems the only reason you are trying to make this ability seem powerful is because of your "why would someone want to kill survivor that bad" argument.

 Actually, I stated whether my abilities are day or night actions - except my auto... because it's an auto. The only thing I forgot was to say that my Roar ability is a one-shot:
I have a one-shot auto ability called Stronger which revives me after death (I do not roleflip).
I have a one shot night ability called Laserbeams which kills me, makes all actions targeting me that night fail, and marks all those that targeted me.
I have a night ability called slash which marks my target (yes, it was me who did the marking. I used it on fillipk and TheDarkStar to get them active again, and my action failed on TheDarkStar).
Lastly, once I am killed and revived, I gain the day ability Roar, which prevents people from for the rest of the day.


Anyway, one last point before I'm done:
there's a rather blatant option in your fullclaim that's misleading to me.

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Why the fish wood anyone want to kill off a survivor that badly? It seems oddly fishy given the ostensive definition of it all.
A thing I found a little off is that you start by telling me that my description of Slash is misleading, continue without transition to explaining my abilities' protectiveness, and end with asking why a survivor would be so protected. This has absolutely no coherence with your opening statement. Why did you change topics halfway through your accusation?

To recap the questions...

Tiruin: How does this lead you to believe that my (non one-shot) night action is worth hiding if all my other ones I stated truthfully? Wouldn't it mean that my night action must be something very powerful, more powerful than the one-shots that have been restricted to being "one-shot" because of just how powerful they are? Why did you change topics halfway through your accusation?
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Re: Bring Your Own Song - Day 3: the story of the mafia and town [9/16]
« Reply #801 on: January 13, 2016, 10:38:08 pm »

Extend

TDS, what're your reads on everyone?

Probably town:
TheDarkStar
fillipk - Fairly active and scumhunting. Nothing suspicious.

Null
Teneb - I haven't seen him recently?
Deus Asmoth - Not very active iirc, despite some scumhunting earlier.
Tiruin - Now that she's active, she's scumhunting and contributing a lot. However, I always have trouble reading her and so I'm listing her as Null rather than town.
FoU - Scumhunting, but his power usage is a bit strange (as fillipk pointed out).
TBF - Scummy voting patterns, as others have pointed out. However, he appears to be doing some scumhunting on Tomasque.

Scummy:
Tomasque - As others have pointed out, his powers don't appear to fully make sense.
H4zardZ1 - Responded oddly to my questions and got a vote from OSG.

PPE: Because it's near the end of the day, a tie appears likely, and I think Tomasque is almost as scummy as H4zardZ1, he gets my vote so that we don't waste the day.

However, the thing that really made me decide was this: Killing him will both make him stronger (which is good if he is town) or bring us closer to getting rid of him (if he is scum) or just get rid of him (if he is lying).
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Re: Bring Your Own Song - Day 3: the story of the mafia and town [9/16]
« Reply #802 on: January 13, 2016, 10:40:00 pm »

EBWOP: Misread the votecount. I'll be willing to vote for TheBiggerFish because I see that people have legitimate cases on him and it will help us not waste the day.
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Re: Bring Your Own Song - Day 3: the story of the mafia and town [9/16]
« Reply #803 on: January 13, 2016, 10:49:01 pm »

EBWOP: Misread the votecount. I'll be willing to vote for TheBiggerFish because I see that people have legitimate cases on him and it will help us not waste the day.
If I understand you here, you're contradicting yourself. You stated that you checked the votecount and that you changed to TBF because you didn't want to waste the day, which I take to mean you don't want to end the day early with a hammer (since Tiriun warned people about that). Why then did you transfer your vote to a person with more votes?
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Re: Bring Your Own Song - Day 3: the story of the mafia and town [9/16]
« Reply #804 on: January 13, 2016, 10:53:48 pm »

EBWOP Nevermind. I realized you meant "at least we'll get to lynch someone,"
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Re: Bring Your Own Song - Day 3: the story of the mafia and town [9/16]
« Reply #805 on: January 13, 2016, 10:58:02 pm »

EBWOP Nevermind. I realized you meant "at least we'll get to lynch someone,"

Not just someone, but someone that many people have written cases on and whose roleflip will tell us useful things when we see TBF's alignment.
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Re: Bring Your Own Song - Day 3: the story of the mafia and town [9/16]
« Reply #806 on: January 13, 2016, 11:02:22 pm »

EBWOP Nevermind. I realized you meant "at least we'll get to lynch someone,"

Not just someone, but someone that many people have interacted with and whose death will tell us something about at least half the people in this game. And he's somewhat scummy.

EBWOP for clarity.
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Re: Bring Your Own Song - Day 3: the story of the mafia and town [9/16]
« Reply #807 on: January 13, 2016, 11:06:34 pm »

Votecount:
* FallacyofUrist - {0}
* TheDarkStar - {0}
* Teneb - {0}
* fillipk - {0}
* Deus Asmoth - {0}
* TheBiggerFish - Deus Asmoth, fillipk, FallacyofUrist, TheDarkStar {4}
* Tiruin - {0}
* H4zardZ1 - origamiscienceguy, Tiruin {2}
* Tomasque - TheBiggerFish, Tiruin {2}
No Lynch - {0}

5 to hammer.

Not Voting: Teneb, H4zardZ1, H4zardZ1, Tomasque

Extension requests: 4/5 (Tiruin, FallacyofUrist, TheBiggerFish, TheDarkStar)

Day 3 ends at 9:30 PM PST Wednesday, January 13th, about 1 and a half hours from now.  There is one extension available.
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Re: Bring Your Own Song - Day 3: the story of the mafia and town [9/16]
« Reply #808 on: January 13, 2016, 11:41:45 pm »

A legitimate question here: Should I hammer?
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Re: Bring Your Own Song - Day 3: the story of the mafia and town [9/16]
« Reply #809 on: January 13, 2016, 11:47:17 pm »

I would rather you not.
Should I reveal my role?
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