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Author Topic: CONSUMERISM, or how to fail a mafia game!  (Read 16211 times)

Megggas

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Re: CONSUMERISM, or how to be democratically murdered! A mall! A gun! 10/10 IGN
« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2015, 07:00:49 pm »

Whoever I forgot because I always forget someone: Do you think that town should claim earlier than normal because of the large amount of information that could be acquired?
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No, definitely not.  The Shop Detective and Wannabe Investigator are the roles that present the highest threat to the scum.  There's no role that can block NKs, so we have no way of stopping the scum from NKing these roles once they are revealed.  Also, the Kind Soul and Paranoid's abilities are most useful when the scum don't know who they are.

Everyone, when does claiming help the town? Are you willing to claim instantly?
No, we definitely shouldn't claim instantly (see previous paragraph).  It might make sense for the Paranoid to claim if there's no NK because of his ability.  The Kind Soul's ability will reveal his identity anyway, so no reason for him to ever claim.  The Detective and Investigator roles should probably claim if they discover scum through their abilities.  That's all I can think of right now, but there may be other situations I haven't thought of that would justify role claiming.

Everybody: If you had the gun, would you play democratically or shoot based on your hunches, regardless of what everybody else thought?
Democratically, unless I had reason to be 100% sure that someone was else was scum.

Tawarochir:  I think roo was voting to give you the gun and asking you to shoot The Moonlight Shadow.  However, you thought Roo was voting for you, right?  Why did you care if Roo was voting for you this early?

(Yeesh, pressure voting is gonna be weird in this game.  I guess I'll use FOSs for now, until I think of a better method.)

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Re: CONSUMERISM, or how to be democratically murdered! A mall! A gun! 10/10 IGN
« Reply #46 on: December 14, 2015, 07:04:02 pm »

Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but whoever gets the most votes gets the gun, not lynched, right? If so, I think some of the votes, both joking and serious, might not be who you want to vote for.

I'm not sure who to vote to have the gun at this point, but I certainly don't think we should give it to Moonlight Shadow, given how quickly they were willing to (evidently non-jokingly) try to vote Roo to death.


Also, re: experience. I've played Town of Salem extensively, but this is my first true Mafia game.

Can I take it to mean you would like moonlit shot? Why moonlit over filipk? Both votes were equally seemingly meaningless?

[at the start of the game in mafia there is a phase called random voting stage. In bay 12 questions of frivolous and often random nature are asked random questioning stage. The idea is to jump start the game. So players will generate content which will generate reads ad infinitum until game ends theoretically.]

 So my reasoning on why I want moonlit shot is demonstrably different from your reason. Not only because you didn't say why you didn't want moonlit to have the gun, but a lack of knowledge about what happened may have contributed to your fencesitty position on moonlit.

Also I might be okay with flame99 being shot.

People should post more. I need more reads.
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Re: CONSUMERISM, or how to be democratically murdered! A mall! A gun! 10/10 IGN
« Reply #47 on: December 14, 2015, 07:11:35 pm »

Tawarochir:  I think roo was voting to give you the gun and asking you to shoot The Moonlight Shadow.  However, you thought Roo was voting for you, right?  Why did you care if Roo was voting for you this early?
No, I knew he was voting to give me the gun. I FOSed him because it resembles a sort of reverse-OMGUS--I pointed out a contradiction in Moonlit's and fillipk's assertation about him (along with acknowledging the general nonsensicality of their statement), and he immediately voted me for the gun.
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Re: CONSUMERISM, or how to be democratically murdered! A mall! A gun! 10/10 IGN
« Reply #48 on: December 14, 2015, 07:13:27 pm »

Not sure I buy meggas push on tawarochir. Context indicates he was confused and curious about the votes on me from out the gate by filipk and moonlit. The other two paragraphs are okay theory talk; i don't give it much weight/town points.

Also I changed my mind flame99 is clearly noob town.

Also also moonlit should still be shot.
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« Reply #49 on: December 14, 2015, 07:16:07 pm »

Tawarochir:  I think roo was voting to give you the gun and asking you to shoot The Moonlight Shadow.  However, you thought Roo was voting for you, right?  Why did you care if Roo was voting for you this early?
No, I knew he was voting to give me the gun. I FOSed him because it resembles a sort of reverse-OMGUS--I pointed out a contradiction in Moonlit's and fillipk's assertation about him (along with acknowledging the general nonsensicality of their statement), and he immediately voted me for the gun.

Well then. I guess my bad meggas. Tawarchir You did not fos me. You asked a question assuming I could read your mind.

Also this is going extremely well.
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« Reply #50 on: December 14, 2015, 07:17:49 pm »

Technically meggas weak push at the time of the post is still sketch imho.
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« Reply #51 on: December 14, 2015, 07:19:22 pm »

Well then. I guess my bad meggas. Tawarchir You did not fos me. You asked a question assuming I could read your mind.

Also this is going extremely well.
Ach! I didn't FOS you there.

"Assuming [you] could read [my] mind?" How do you figure?
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« Reply #52 on: December 14, 2015, 07:23:55 pm »

The answer is very boring. I town read you for your entrance into the game.
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« Reply #53 on: December 14, 2015, 07:26:04 pm »

Tawarochir:  I think roo was voting to give you the gun and asking you to shoot The Moonlight Shadow.  However, you thought Roo was voting for you, right?  Why did you care if Roo was voting for you this early?
No, I knew he was voting to give me the gun. I FOSed him because it resembles a sort of reverse-OMGUS--I pointed out a contradiction in Moonlit's and fillipk's assertation about him (along with acknowledging the general nonsensicality of their statement), and he immediately voted me for the gun.
Oh.  Your statement "Why so quick to vote on me?" sounded like you thought that he was voting for you.  My mistake. UnFOS.

@Mod:
You said Day 1 ends on Thursday.  Does the person with the most votes get the gun after Day 1 ends, or before then?  When does the person with the gun decide who to shoot?
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« Reply #54 on: December 14, 2015, 07:32:43 pm »

To Everyone:  The Moonlight Shadow said he didn't receive a role pm.  Did anyone else not receive a role pm?
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« Reply #55 on: December 14, 2015, 07:34:27 pm »

I received two. Someone maybe should have reviewed this game. Whatever.

Quit stalling megggas who is town?
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« Reply #56 on: December 14, 2015, 07:39:52 pm »

Actually, a massclaim might be a good thing. The scum would most likely claim vanilla townies, which would narrow it down to 5 players. I think that town could lynch those 5 people before traitors win.
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« Reply #57 on: December 14, 2015, 07:43:31 pm »

I'm down osg. You go first.
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« Reply #58 on: December 14, 2015, 07:44:22 pm »

I am the paranoid.

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« Reply #59 on: December 14, 2015, 07:47:21 pm »

I received two. Someone maybe should have reviewed this game. Whatever.

Quit stalling megggas who is town?

Eh, I'm leaning town on you at the moment.  Unlike the last game I played with you (where you were scum), you seem to be back to your fearless impatient rushed-typing style of play.

Actually, a massclaim might be a good thing. The scum would most likely claim vanilla townies, which would narrow it down to 5 players. I think that town could lynch those 5 people before traitors win.
Hmm, there would be 6 people claiming vanilla townie, wouldn't there?  Do you think the half-scum mercenary would actually claim his role?
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