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[Witty]

What's the exact science for weapons getting stuck in wounds?

I'm working on some treants, and I'm trying to tidy up the wood material template so it actually behaves a bit more like wood. However, I can't seem to get weapons to get stuck in the treant's wounds. Is this something determined in the material template, or does it have more to do with tissue layers?

[BlackFlyme]

"walkable building" search turns up nothing, so I'm asking here: Is it possible to mod buildings to provide walkable surface to level they're on or to the level above, similar to the way bridges provide it?

Not that I know of, no. Buildings don't need all their tiles touching solid ground, but they cannot be made to create support.

What's the exact science for weapons getting stuck in wounds?

I'm working on some treants, and I'm trying to tidy up the wood material template so it actually behaves a bit more like wood. However, I can't seem to get weapons to get stuck in the treant's wounds. Is this something determined in the material template, or does it have more to do with tissue layers?

May help to see the raws. As far as I know, the only way for stuck-ins to be prevented is if your creature has the [NOSTUCKINS] tag. And are you using an edged weapon? Stuck ins occur much more rarely for blunt weapons.

[scamtank]

I don't think we've figured that out yet. My anecdotal experience is that the further in you go with a narrower blade, the more likely you are to snag in. Maybe there's some kind of threshold where if you exceed the ratio of (cm of penetrated meat/cm of contact area)?

[Witty]

What's the exact science for weapons getting stuck in wounds?

I'm working on some treants, and I'm trying to tidy up the wood material template so it actually behaves a bit more like wood. However, I can't seem to get weapons to get stuck in the treant's wounds. Is this something determined in the material template, or does it have more to do with tissue layers?

May help to see the raws. As far as I know, the only way for stuck-ins to be prevented is if your creature has the [NOSTUCKINS] tag. And are you using an edged weapon? Stuck ins occur much more rarely for blunt weapons.

Spoiler: Here's the creature (click to show/hide)

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[CREATURE:TREANT_TAIGA]
[DESCRIPTION:A gigantic tree golem dedicated to the protection of its forest home. Elven druids are said to animate certain trees into these creatures during times of war. Although some are so wild they turn against even their elven friends.]
[NAME:treant:treants:treantish]
[CASTE_NAME:treant:treants:treantish]
[COLOR:2:0:0]
        [PETVALUE:750]
        [CHILD:10][BABY:1]
        [PET_EXOTIC][TRAINABLE_WAR]
        [MEANDERER][NATURAL][LARGE_PREDATOR]
[AT_PEACE_WITH_WILDLIFE]
[NOPAIN][EXTRAVISION][NOBREATHE][NOSTUN][NONAUSEA]
[NOTHOUGHT][NOEXERT]
[NO_DIZZINESS]
[NO_FEVERS][LIKES_FIGHTING]
        [LARGE_ROAMING]
        [CLUSTER_NUMBER:1:4]
[BUILDINGDESTROYER:2]
[NO_DRINK][NO_EAT][NO_SLEEP]
[SPHERE:TREES]
[SPHERE:NATURE]
    [SPHERE:PLANTS]
        [EQUIPS]
[CANOPENDOORS]

    [BIOME:FOREST_TAIGA]

    [FREQUENCY:1]
    [POPULATION_NUMBER:2:3]
[NOT_BUTCHERABLE]
[NOFEAR]
[PREFSTRING:fierce nature]
[PREFSTRING:likeness to trees]
[NOBONES]
[BODY:HUMANOID:2EYES:NOSE:HUMANOID_JOINTS:3FINGERS:3TOES]
[BODYGLOSS:ROOTS_FOOT]
[BODYGLOSS:LEG_STUMP]
[BODYGLOSS:BRANCH_ARM]
[BODYGLOSS:TRUNK]
[BODYGLOSS:CLAW_HAND]
[NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT]


    [CASTE:PINE_M]
            [CASTE_TILE:23]
            [MALE]
    [TISSUE:WOOD_PINE]
[TISSUE_NAME:pine wood:wooden]
[TISSUE_MATERIAL:PLANT_MAT:PINE:WOOD]
                  [MUSCULAR]
  [FUNCTIONAL]
  [STRUCTURAL]
  [RELATIVE_THICKNESS:10]
  [CONNECTS]
  [TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
    [ITEMCORPSE:WOOD:NO_SUBTYPE:PLANT_MAT:PINE:WOOD]
            [TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:WOOD_PINE]

    [CASTE:PINE_F]
            [CASTE_TILE:23]
            [FEMALE]
            [MULTIPLE_LITTER_RARE]
    [TISSUE:WOOD_PINE]
        [TISSUE_NAME:pine wood:wooden]
[TISSUE_MATERIAL:PLANT_MAT:PINE:WOOD]
                    [ MUSCULAR]
    [FUNCTIONAL]
    [STRUCTURAL]
    [RELATIVE_THICKNESS:10]
    [CONNECTS]
    [TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
    [ITEMCORPSE:WOOD:NO_SUBTYPE:PLANT_MAT:PINE:WOOD]
            [TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:WOOD_PINE]


[SELECT_CASTE:ALL]
[GRASSTRAMPLE:50]
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:250000]
[BODY_SIZE:1:168:2500000]
[BODY_SIZE:20:0:4000000]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[ATTACK:PUNCH:BODYPART:BY_TYPE:GRASP]
[ATTACK_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:punch:punches]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
[ATTACK:KICK:BODYPART:BY_TYPE:STANCE]
[ATTACK_SKILL:STANCE_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:kick:kicks]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:SECOND]
[ATTACK_FLAG_BAD_MULTIATTACK]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_BIPED_GAITS:900:657:438:219:1900:2900] 40 kph
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CLIMBING_GAITS:2990:2257:1525:731:4300:6100] 12 kph
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_SWIMMING_GAITS:2990:2257:1525:731:4300:6100] 12 kph
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CRAWLING_GAITS:2990:2257:1525:731:4300:6100] 12 kph
[SWIMS_LEARNED]

(There are other biome variants, but they're all identical except for differences in tree type and biome)

Spoiler: And here's the current modded wood template I'm using (click to show/hide)

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[MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:WOOD_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:BROWN]
[STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:wood]
[STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:wooden]
[STATE_COLOR:LIQUID:BROWN]
[STATE_NAME:LIQUID:n/a]
[STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:n/a]
[STATE_COLOR:GAS:BROWN]
[STATE_NAME:GAS:n/a]
[STATE_ADJ:GAS:n/a]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:6:0:0]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:1]
[SPEC_HEAT:420]
[IGNITE_POINT:10508]
[MELTING_POINT:NONE]
[BOILING_POINT:NONE]
[HEATDAM_POINT:10250]
[COLDDAM_POINT:9900]
[MAT_FIXED_TEMP:NONE]
[SOLID_DENSITY:500]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:NONE]
[MOLAR_MASS:NONE]
[IMPACT_YIELD:200000]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:200000]
[IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:6000]
[COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:10000]
[COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:10000]
[COMPRESSIVE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:1000]
[TENSILE_YIELD:2000]
[TENSILE_FRACTURE:5000]
[TENSILE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:500]
[TORSION_YIELD:2000]
[TORSION_FRACTURE:5000]
[TORSION_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:5000]
[SHEAR_YIELD:40000] used pine
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:40000]
[SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:4000]
[BENDING_YIELD:5000]
[BENDING_FRACTURE:50000]
[BENDING_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:1000]
[MAX_EDGE:1000]
[ABSORPTION:0]
[ITEMS_HARD]
[ITEMS_WEAPON]
[ITEMS_WEAPON_RANGED]
[ITEMS_AMMO]
[ITEMS_ARMOR]
[ITEMS_SIEGE_ENGINE]
This general material classifier determines various in-game behaviors.  There are several others below.
[WOOD]

No real science there, just trial and error until it starts 'feeling' right in arena combat.

Right now, only real issues are that scratches can cause fractures (certainly some error I made in the template) and the aforementioned lack of stuck-ins.

I've used axes, spears, hammers - pretty much all the main weapons made from various materials (copper, bronze, steel, candy). While they all do quite a bit of damage, I've yet to see a stuck-in attack.

[BlackFlyme]

Beyond the tag, I don't know much about stuck ins. Maybe it requires a flexible material to snag onto? Someone more knowledgeable than I will hopefully know.

[Witty]

Well, I figured out the issue it seems.

I'm certainly no expert, but I added BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS token, using a layer of 'bark' tissue and three other layers of wood. Now weapons are properly being stuck in wounds.

But NOW the problem is that a single jab with a copper spear with totally break any body part, rendering it useless (IE a leg/root is stabbed - it is totally destroyed and rendered unusable to walk). I removed the FUNCTIONAL tag for my custom wood tissues, shouldn't that mean the tissue will continue to function unless it's served or destroyed by heat/cold?

Spoiler: Here's what I'm working with (click to show/hide)

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    [CASTE:TEST]
            [CASTE_TILE:23]
            [MALE]
    [TISSUE:BARK]
[TISSUE_NAME:bark:bark]
[TISSUE_MATERIAL:PLANT_MAT:PINE:WOOD]
[STRUCTURAL]
[RELATIVE_THICKNESS:1]
        [CONNECTS]
[TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
    [TISSUE:WOOD_PINE]
[TISSUE_NAME:pine wood:wooden]
[TISSUE_MATERIAL:PLANT_MAT:PINE:WOOD]
[STRUCTURAL]
[RELATIVE_THICKNESS:100]
[CONNECTS]
        [TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
    [ITEMCORPSE:WOOD:NO_SUBTYPE:PLANT_MAT:PINE:WOOD]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:BARK:WOOD_PINE:WOOD_PINE:WOOD_PINE]

The rest of the creature and the wood template I posted above are all the same.

[Dirst]

The tag that's causing the problem is STRUCTURAL.  If a structural tissue is broken, the limb becomes useless.  You'll want that only on the innermost layer (the pseudo-bone).  FUNCTIONAL indicates that the tissue enables some special tag on the bodypart.  Lungs, eyes, etc. have a functional tissue, and in most cases they have only that one tissue.

[Witty]

The tag that's causing the problem is STRUCTURAL.  If a structural tissue is broken, the limb becomes useless.  You'll want that only on the innermost layer (the pseudo-bone).  FUNCTIONAL indicates that the tissue enables some special tag on the bodypart.  Lungs, eyes, etc. have a functional tissue, and in most cases they have only that one tissue.

Thanks a bunch, makes sense.

Now I just need to figure out the various yield and fracture points of wood 

[Nakéen]

Has anyone tried to replace generated Forgotten Beasts with modded ones ?

As it is possible with clowns, I wondered if it was possible for FB.

[TheFlame52]

Nope, can't be done. [GENERATED_BEAST] can only go on generated creatures.

[Nakéen]

I meant, without using the exclusive tags.
For clowns, there is a roundabout way to make modded clowns appear in the HFS and initial wave, which is setting the number of clowns to 0 and adding [BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_CHASM] and [UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:5:5] to a creature.

So I wondered if there existed a similar way for FB, and I'm too lazy at the moment to test it.

[TheFlame52]

[GENERATED_BEAST], and only that, makes FBs act like FBs, and you can't put it in user-defined raws. Sorry man.

[Nakéen]

I see, how saddening.

[Eric Blank]

That's not to say you can't have some horrible subterranean abominations appearing as wildlife with small populations as individuals, though. You won't be informed about them arriving and theyll be considered wild animals, but that just makes it more Fun.

[Witty]

Is there any way to add new hairstyles for civilizations? I'd like to give goblins some mohawks, but I can't seem to find any info on making new styles. Am I missing something, or is this currently not possible?