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Author Topic: How do I opt out of Windows 10 "upgrade" and keep Windows 7?  (Read 8433 times)

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Re: How do I opt out of Windows 10 "upgrade" and keep Windows 7?
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2015, 04:56:30 pm »

You know guys, there is a simple registry key you can set that disables the get windows 10 (GWX) services, while still keeping the KBs installed, right?

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx]
"DisableGwx"=dword:00000001

Setting that disables the updater icon, and any further Bologna.  Still leaves the tracking crap behind though. You have to uninstall the KBs for that.
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Re: How do I opt out of Windows 10 "upgrade" and keep Windows 7?
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2015, 11:59:54 am »

You know guys, there is a simple registry key you can set that disables the get windows 10 (GWX) services, while still keeping the KBs installed, right?

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx]
"DisableGwx"=dword:00000001

Setting that disables the updater icon, and any further Bologna.  Still leaves the tracking crap behind though. You have to uninstall the KBs for that.

Hi. Thank you. Um, am I the only one who doesn't understand what Weird just said or certainly not how to do it? You sound like a pretty smart person. I just wish I could really get what you were talking about. Maybe if it's not too much trouble, could you explain that a bit please?
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Re: How do I opt out of Windows 10 "upgrade" and keep Windows 7?
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2015, 01:56:35 pm »

You can create a key, of type dword, with the name "DisableGWX", and a value of "1", in the registry path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx

The presence of this key disables the get windows 10 tray icon, and the update nagging.

The format the information was presented in, is in RegEdit export format.  The format that .reg files use.

You can manually insert this key with the following instructions:

1) Run regedit under administrator credentials.
2) Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows
3) Check for the existence of a "folder" (key) called Gwx.  If it exists, navigate into it. If not--
 3a) Right click in the right pane, and choose "new key".  Name it Gwx. Navigate into it.
4) Right click in the right pane, and choose "New DWORD value" Name it "DisableGwx"
5) Double click on the newly created DWORD, and change its value to 1.
6) Reboot your computer. When it comes back up, the tray icon will be gone.


OR

You can do this the super easy way.

Copy the following code-box wrapped text into a text editor, and save it with the .reg extension.

Code: [Select]

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx]
"DisableGwx"=dword:00000001


Then doubleclick on the .reg file. Windows asks if you want to add the contents of the file to the registry. Say yes. Reboot. Done.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2015, 02:16:20 pm by wierd »
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Re: How do I opt out of Windows 10 "upgrade" and keep Windows 7?
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2015, 02:22:08 pm »

Just some trivia.
Since i was going to change my HDD soon anyway i decided to check out Win 10. Worst case scenario i was going to dump this HDD into a trash compactor anyway.

So... it installs slowly but without problems.
I log in and realize the following.

- It forgot some of my passwords (Not all strangely).
- Deleted my antivirus (the prompt says Win 10 has its own antivirus).
- Deleted Search and Destroy (antiadware i used to use)
- DELETED MY GPU DRIVERS.

So i'm doing my thing stumbling about the OS obviously optimized for smartphones and tablets whle i redownload my ADM drivers. And then suddenly... black screen.
OUT OF RANGE... and i didn't even touch the display settings. Just checked the screen resolution and left it at 1024 x 768 so exacly the way they were after the restart.
But nope out of range.

And microsoft apparently knows their new OS is a mess because MS Explorer EDGE opens up on Microsoft support every 5 minutes on its own.

Long story short. Save yourself the trouble and just remove/ignore the prompt because 2 hours in and all i have is grief with an OS that looks like it belongs on a Tablet.

PS: The drivers won't install in emergency mode and when i use the PC in normal mode i get "Out of range". Amazing. Just Amazing.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2015, 02:27:13 pm by Sonlirain »
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Re: How do I opt out of Windows 10 "upgrade" and keep Windows 7?
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2015, 02:44:43 pm »

That sounds like the drivers pushing the card at a refresh rate that your monitor cannot handle. 

Try starting in emergency mode (or whatever), and forcing the adapter refresh rate to something like 50 to 60hz.
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Re: How do I opt out of Windows 10 "upgrade" and keep Windows 7?
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2015, 02:56:06 pm »

Except the drivers weren't there. The max resolution i could pick was 1024 x 768. I was redownloadiung them when that happened.
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Re: How do I opt out of Windows 10 "upgrade" and keep Windows 7?
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2015, 02:59:19 pm »

There is STILL a driver-- just the generic VESA one. (Standard PCI vga adapter, usually.)

No idea where win10 hides the refresh rate setting. Wherever it is, keep it set at someplace between 50 and 60hz.
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Re: How do I opt out of Windows 10 "upgrade" and keep Windows 7?
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2015, 03:05:54 pm »

Well it's not in the screen settings. Also after cleaning up the drivers in emergency mode i managed to run the PC in normal. I'm reinstalling the drivers right now (second time in a row apparently because i already installed them... they just went "poof" after resetting).

I'm really at a loss for words.

EDIT:
Found a solution. Apparently win 10 decided that my monitors max resolution is 1600 x 900... however it remembered that my previous resolution was 1080p so it just set the resolution ot the max it thought possible.
My monitor did not support that resolution and since it was not a manual change there were no prompts or rollback after 15 seconds.
Managed to fix that after running win in low res mode but damn was it annoying.
4 hours of babysitting Win 10.

EDIT2:
Some of my games stopped working.

EDIT3:
All of my recording software i used to use (Raptr and OBS) stopped working as well.

EDIT4:
Rolled back to win 7. Had none of the stupidity i had to cope with Win 10 and everything works.
Credit given where credit is due however as win 10 loads much faster than win 7 (but what's the use when half of everything i use on win 7 simply refuses to work right).

EDIT5:
Win 10 screws up autoupdate for Win 7 now i have to instal lthem all manually. Talk about a trojan horse.

EDIT6:
Found a final solution. http://pastebin.com/hs90jeMC
Apparently putting this code in a .reg file removes the corporate nagging.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2015, 08:30:08 am by Sonlirain »
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Re: How do I opt out of Windows 10 "upgrade" and keep Windows 7?
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2015, 06:26:46 pm »

I think it forces you if you say yes and then change your mind.  ::)

No, I did this, because I originally said yes with Windows 7 Home, which would be upgraded to Win 10 Home, which has forced reboots on updates - NOT good if you're in the middle of a fortress or whatever, whereas it's a little less forced with Win 10 Prof.  So I removed the two KB updates, upgraded to Win 7 Prof, and basically that's this machine I'm using at the moment, which is still on Win7.  I'll update it to Win10 when I'm sure iTunes works OK with this version.

I've updated my main PC to Win10 and I seem to have spent a lot of time making it work like Windows 7.  So really the upgrade to Win10 is a bit pointless; I can't really think of anything it does better than Win7.

The process I followed was to remove the two KB updates that have been mentioned elsewhere on this thread, then reboot which takes ages; then you have to do another Windows Update and unselect and hide those same two updates.  Microsoft are quite keen to push them through so they seem to keep coming back for a while; presumably they think people might "accidentally" delete the updates.  So keep a close eye on the next few updates to make sure they don't reanimate.
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Re: How do I opt out of Windows 10 "upgrade" and keep Windows 7?
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2015, 09:19:20 pm »

I also do not like Windows 10 and refuse to upgrade if at all possible. So far all I've been able to do is:

1.) Ctrl Alt Delete
2.) Task Manager
3.) End Process on GWX, and GWXUX.

After Mil, & Vista, Microsoft has forever lost my trust with updates until they are widely adopted and proven like Win XP 7 was. Neither I nor my data am/are going to be their test subject. It's almost enough to make me consider apple, and if they keep pushing this heavy handed crap it just might be.

For the last time Microsoft, we all (Yes, effectively all) want a start button, and not to be forced into things. If it were good, we'd happily go willingly.
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Re: How do I opt out of Windows 10 "upgrade" and keep Windows 7?
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2015, 09:45:50 pm »

Here's what you do to get rid of the Win 10 prompt permanently.

Make a reg file and use the code from here.
http://pastebin.com/hs90jeMC

Then open up windows update find and delete patch KB3035583.

Win 10 intercoursed off after i did that.
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Re: How do I opt out of Windows 10 "upgrade" and keep Windows 7?
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2015, 08:17:04 am »

And then suddenly... black screen.
OUT OF RANGE... and i didn't even touch the display settings. Just checked the screen resolution and left it at 1024 x 768 so exacly the way they were after the restart.
But nope out of range.

I think Windows probably just installed your graphics driver. It should set a resolution your monitor supports, if you get an out of range error that sounds like your monitor didn't communicate its supported resolutions properly. Are you using VGA? VGA is plagued with shit like this.
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Re: How do I opt out of Windows 10 "upgrade" and keep Windows 7?
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2015, 08:35:53 am »

Yep VGA via an adapter because the GPU i got lacked the proper ports and had 2 DVI and HDMI ports instead.
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Re: How do I opt out of Windows 10 "upgrade" and keep Windows 7?
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2015, 06:12:42 am »

I've never seen a DVI or HDMI monitor be given a resolution it couldn't handle, but I saw it all the time with VGA. I don't think VGA provides a way for the monitor to tell the computer the specific resolutions it supports, only max H/V frequency.

(This is only one of the reasons I have refused to use VGA for the past decade, I won't rant about it now)
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Re: How do I opt out of Windows 10 "upgrade" and keep Windows 7?
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2015, 01:52:30 pm »

VGA does have a means of doing this, and has had one since at least the 90s.

HDMI monitors go out of range easily. It happens when the refresh rate and or geometry is set at something the lcd pannel cannot handle. If the driver does not check for, or respect the monitor's capability information, and just acts like a bull in a china shop, this is what happens.

Frequently, modern video drivers dont respect the VGA style way of reporting this information, leading to the above. However, even DVI suffers, because of developers focusing on the HDMI way of doing things.
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