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Author Topic: Blurb on Games that probably don't deserve their own threads.  (Read 328414 times)

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Re: Blurb on Games that probably don't deserve their own threads.
« Reply #2010 on: November 12, 2022, 10:38:00 am »

Those kind of games are made with a bunch of people in the same room, that's how party games will shine, regardless of being computer or physical party games.
But online or in solo play, it unfortunately lose the "group of people having fun together" atmosphere.

Playing Worms on the same screen with a lot of people in the same room was an hilarious experience unlike anything i had with that game in other conditions.
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« Reply #2011 on: November 13, 2022, 06:36:04 pm »

Remember Forge , a most excellent open source ( https://github.com/Card-Forge ) program to play MTG decks vs AI with plenty of game modes (quest, challenge, puzzle...) and options ?

It's been a while i haven't played so i checked the current version and noticed it was months ago so after googling around it seems preferable to instead get those daily new builds can be found there https://downloads.cardforge.org/dailysnapshots/

And in that snapshot i toyed with i noticed there was something completely new (a new executable along the normal Forge one) that didn't existed the last time i played a bit more than a year ago : Forge Adventure and after launching this one even despite the pixel graphics used i quickly noticed what it was all about: it's nearly a recreation of Magic:The Gathering from Microprose that was so incredibly good back in its day in 97 with a different presentation but you still explore a world conquer dungeons and various stuff, discover items , cards (so you can adjust or build different decks) and etc... on your way to battle the boss.

So if by any chances you know how great this microprose game was in its time, go give a try to a recent snapshot of Forge, even if this Forge Adventure is currently WIP , so much potential.
check user guide to install :
https://github.com/Card-Forge/forge/wiki/User-Guide
the Forge forum (they have a discord too, there are invite on their boards) :
https://www.slightlymagic.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=26
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« Reply #2012 on: November 14, 2022, 08:10:04 pm »

Forge Adventure
Thank you for this, this is perfect. I've wanted a game about grinding NPCs in TCG fights for their booster packs since the Game Boy Color Pokemon TCG game so long ago, never got that MTG game to work, and haven't found anything else in the genre.
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Re: Blurb on Games that probably don't deserve their own threads.
« Reply #2013 on: November 14, 2022, 08:15:12 pm »

It's been a while i haven't played so i checked the current version and noticed it was months ago so after googling around it seems preferable to instead get those daily new builds can be found there https://downloads.cardforge.org/dailysnapshots/
Uh, the folder is empty?
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Re: Blurb on Games that probably don't deserve their own threads.
« Reply #2014 on: November 14, 2022, 08:34:49 pm »

I don't know it wasn't empty yesterday and the day before when there were previous builds.
As it's still direct linked in their FAQ (and i continue to see commits in their github daily), maybe they just deleted the files to replace them with new snapshots in case it's not automated or whatever bot they're using just broke ?
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« Reply #2015 on: November 15, 2022, 06:19:22 am »

Forge snapshots are available again at the time i'm writing.

For those not knowing : the window version is inside of a ".tar.bz2" archive, if you use 7zip (but it should work with any program like that, winzip, winrar , etc... ) you simply extract the file.
It will extract a ".tar" file, then you will have to extract this .tar file to obtain the Forge game folder (that you can place anywhere you want, still recommended to place it into your C:\  to avoid possible problems).

You need at least java8 (or the openjdk8) installed to use the java8 version of the executable, the normal executable requires at least java11 (or corresponding openjdk) if i remember well .
check for the links :
https://github.com/Card-Forge/forge/wiki/User-Guide
personnally i have java17 installed ( https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/downloads/#java17 ) and Forge works great.
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« Reply #2016 on: November 19, 2022, 02:07:25 pm »

-snippy snip snap-

Oh my god I think I remember playing that or some other free MTG engine, I forget. My dad had it on an old computer tower computer and that plus Star Trek Armada 1 are just core memories of PC gaming for me

Makes me wish star trek armada would actually work, but I think my disk is borked bc I tried to install it on an old e-pc we got for free from someone that ran unreal tournament and other old games -like Star Trek Fleet Command- p well but it never got past 0% on the install.

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« Reply #2017 on: November 19, 2022, 02:53:45 pm »

Toyed with "Cuban Missile Crisis" (that along its standalone expansion is still free to get on indiegala, see the free game list thread for the links) that 60ies based game on some alternate history after things went to hell after the actual cuban missiles crisis.

After completing the tutorial mini campaign that decieve you into thinking this one gameplay may be different than Sudden Strike and Blitzkrieg, i started one of the main campaigns included with the game, the US/UK one as i'm more familiar with their tanks and etc.. naming conventions so i thought it would help getting the hang of the whole things quicker.

And after completing 2 very long grueling battles against enemy groups encounted on the campaign map, the 2nd one had me taking more than 1 hour to attack the last objective , due to insane amount of save/reload because success and failure was linked to "pixel war".

"pixel war" , yeah it's that biggest part of the Sudden Strike/Blitzkrieg gameplay that the tutorial made me forget as it wasn't as heavy on it :
Those pixels i talke about are the distance you need to move your spotting units then stop then activate their spotting ability, the move again a pixel or two, stop, activate their spotting abilities, repeat ... (that's a lot of clicking in the end) until you either spot the units that have been murdering your whole army in your previous attempt, or walk a pixel too much and get in the LOS of said troops that will proceed to murder your spotter and you troops now that you can't see them anymore.

And if you spot said unit , let's hope you can kill them quick (armor penetration being -very- random) before some of the other camping AI tanks rush to the location and with how uncertain battles can be it's extremely easy to lose a lot of very previous units in seconds because they're taking their time to retreat to safety (that damned random armor penetration too, explain also lots of my reloading :D )

So far in my campaign i got 2 encounter battles that are played on "random maps", 1st one i initiated as i attacked, but the 2nd one was an enemy group attacking one of mine on the map
But even despite i was the one attacked, the random map was again the same as previously (though with snow instead of grass) about "take the objective protected by all the enemies camping there, oh and don't think about setting ambushes, despite you're the one attacked the AI will NEVER move out of their camping zones to attack you...".

And there's some puzzle aspect to solve too, because in missions the way the enemies are positionned it means you must find from which direction to attack, as other directions may just lead to utter failure, make sure to surround enemies location with spotters to get an idea on how exactly each troops are camping , that should usually help you to figure out which direction is a NO and which one is the must use.

I wonder if out of the manually crafted missions (i hope there are some), those random maps are not in fact all of the same crap like those 2 i just completed, i remember Blitzkrieg and Sudden Strike had a bit more variation, but in the same time there wasn't a campaign map with you and the AI moving troops around, it was missions after missions.
And no idea if it's because i accidentally started to play on Normal difficulty, but tanks burn their fuel super fast, my fuel supply truck had to go back 2 times to the camp at the entrance of the map to get more fuel and come back to help some out of fuel tanks that couldn't move to attack anymore.
Make sure to increase a bit the amount of fuel you'll carry in a mission.
Oh and still no access to air support and bombers, not sure why as the tutorial mini campaign gave me some.
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« Reply #2018 on: November 25, 2022, 12:16:16 pm »

Gave a try to currrent gog freebie, "Terroir"
It's a nice little winery tycoon game in the same genre as "Hundred Days".
From my first play Terroir feels less complex in term of options but has its slightly simpler gameplay flowing better and it is faster to learn.

Anyways, on my first game it was a disaster (i had setup 0 competitor in the game setup in the hope it would get easier to learn), as unlike what i thought when i enabled the tutorial , said tutorial is horribly bad as it's basically telling you "go read the manual" , Hundred Days tutorial was much better as it showed you how to play while you were playing.

So the first year, i made my first wine, and bottled it.
Then i waited, hmm how come i am not making money, the year ended and clicking on the Cellar again i noticed in the bottle window there was a button i didn't noticed when i bottled the wine called "tasting" that allow you to call professional (lowly professionals at first) to taste it and give their judgement on the quality.
Only then you can get your bottles to wine sales company   .
No wonder i was losing money every months as i was selling nothing .

Money started then to finally come in, time for my 2nd year wine, but this time as one of the judge mentionned it could use a bit more acidity, i moved the pressing slider down , as a result my 2nd year wine was judged as basically a bottle of ...  acid :D
Sold nearly nothing of that of course and got near bankrupt from that horrible mistake. Though it was funny to think there were people probably buying my new wine instead of acid bottles for their needs :D

Third year i got the slider better and ended with a nice one, comparable to the first year, but 3 or the 4 wine selling companies weren't interested as they were left with so many bottles they prefered to first sell their stock.
So even the 4th company sales weren't enough and i went bankrupt

Lesson to learn : make sure to go check your bottles in the cellar after having bottled your wine and get the tasting expert doing their job so you can actually make money
And probably i should have read the ingame manual instead of skipping the vocal tutorial :D

2nd game, managed to get my 2nd year wine a 5 stars !
Allowing me to pick a random card from the chest, i select the "Chance" one, hoping for the best.
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« Reply #2019 on: November 25, 2022, 12:33:37 pm »

Must you bottle them? Seems like an obvious move to leqve them in the barrel if you're not selling anyway lol.
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« Reply #2020 on: November 25, 2022, 12:44:11 pm »

It's a matter of deciding if you need money fast (and i needed to try to counter my mistake losses) or balance your wine aging before asking for taste experts. But if you want the best wine, it all depends on the stats , sometime i could bottle them right away and sometime i needed to keep the barrels a month or two in the cellar to get some acidity and tanning dropping
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« Reply #2021 on: November 26, 2022, 10:33:49 am »

Apparently, sometimes the advice the tasters give you to improve your wine is... False. They don't actually mean what they say, and following their advice will result in a worse wine.

The only way of knowing this is to already know how to make perfect wine.

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« Reply #2022 on: November 26, 2022, 10:39:43 am »

It's very realistic in that way
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« Reply #2023 on: November 26, 2022, 11:18:18 am »

i dont know if it's reallybad luck,but after getting lots of 5 stars wines i gave a try in picking a card from the chest and out of one time it gave me some minor amount of $, the "chance" card always made me lose a bunch of money.
The circumstance card seems to always give a mini mission :
1st one got me to invite the mayor and give him my best wine
2nd one is me supporting the army with 3000 bottles of wine before a few years (hard because it means 3000 bottles that you throw away instead of making money from)
3rd one was a mission in which ihad to produce 3 wines with less than 2 stars (horrible as it hurts your standing with distributors) and failing means a malus to your price for 10 years

Yeah, unless i had some bad luck it looks like it's mostly negative to pick a card

Oh and a tip : do not sell all your bottles of your best wine,you need 20 bottles of a specific wine to get it into the wine award contest every 4 years, also one of the awardr equire 8 years old bottles so if you get a really good 5 stars that also has some bonus flavor with it make sure to keep some.
Also some mission (circumstance card) may require having some bottles left in stock too.
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« Reply #2024 on: November 27, 2022, 06:54:43 pm »

Man, y'know what I really miss? Beasts and Bumpkins.

Sure, it may have been a dumpster fire of sketchy programming and questionable design choices... But that game had heart. Also a couple horribly catchy quotes that still pop into my consciousness decades later.
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