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[Ukrainian Ranger]

Isn't that design action a blatant attempt to get 4 designs from one action?

[Sheb]

Yup. I expect our engineers will run out of steam at some point and we won't get all fours, similar to how you can ask for 4 or 5 times of shots (of course, guns are actually much more similar to each others than shots).

[RAM]

On the topic of revising the pistol I will reiterate my ideas from earlier.

Well, It is sort of sad to waste all our revisions on newly produced items, but, well, we could, potentially, add some sort of hinged flap(with nice angled edges that fits into a matching groove in the top even if they are not perfectly aligned) into the barrel that the wheel would push down, reducing the flow between shots and preserving some of the pressure mid-salvo. We could also make the wheel's spokes shallower to increase the force at which the balls are ejected from it and reduce the number of spokes to leave more time for balls to enter and exit the wheel. although the wheel would likely then require some sort of winding mechanism and gearing to control the speed and give it the force to push the flap out of the way...

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Or we could just move the wheel up a little bit so it ejects the ammunition more reliably and has a little less force rotating it...

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Yup. I expect our engineers will run out of steam at some point and we won't get all fours, similar to how you can ask for 4 or 5 times of shots (of course, guns are actually much more similar to each others than shots).

Due to the expense mechanic, the cannons need to be designed separately.  Different forms of shots don't carry an expense level, so I have those able to be designed together.

[Baffler]

No word on the flag since I submitted one too.

If we have to choose one, I think the 3 pounder is our best option, but the change in the manufacturing process is worth keeping. How's this?

Based on the highly successful système Gribeauval, the Van Karsten system is a new system of artillery, aiming to standardize the artillery pieces and increase their performance. Instead of casting them around a clay cylinder, guns are cast as one piece, and the bore is then drilled into it.

The smoother bore allow tighter-fitting projectile, increasing range and precision, while decreasing the overall weigh of the cannon. The first gun fielded using this new system was a relatively small 3 pound field gun capable of firing either ordinary round shot or Dunwich canister shot.

[Wolfhunter107]

Edit: Changed vote.

[Playergamer]

Spoiler: Cricket Battalion Gun (click to show/hide)

The first addition to the Van Karsten system is the Cricket Battalion Gun. A three-pounder cannon, cast out of bronze instead of iron, the Cricket is designed to be significantly lighter and thinner than the standard six-pound artillery used by the Confederate army. The gun is designed to be integrated directly into infantry units. Each infantry battalion chosen for integration is assigned two guns, and a few choice men are trained in their usage. The Cricket is designed to fire about one shot for minute, and a well-trained crew can use ropes to haul the gun, on foot, at near marching speed. Although these infantry units will be slowed somewhat by the inclusion of these guns, they will greatly increase their firepower.

That might not be very clear, sorry guys.

[Sheb]

I think we should go for a real gun rather than a battalion gun. The multi-musket thing we stole from Combe already give us some nice infatry support weapon. We will also be getting more Ore next turn, which in turn means that a larger gun would be merely expensive (the Atterton 12-pdr is howitzer as expensive as our 6-pdr.

Also, remember the lesson of Arstotzka: try to fit as much as possible in your designs. I kept my Von Karsten system rather bare to try to milk more than one design, but if we ask for a single gun, we might get something else in there too (the Monarchist got case shot that way).

Spoiler: Von Karsten 8-pounder (click to show/hide)

Based on the highly successful système Gribeauval, the Van Karsten system is a new system of artillery, aiming to standardize the artillery pieces and increase their performance. Instead of casting them around a clay cylinder, guns are cast as one piece, and the bore is then drilled into it.
The smoother bore allow tighter-fitting projectile, increasing range and precision, while decreasing the overall weigh of the cannon.

The first gun fielded using this new system was a 8-pounder based on the Canon de 8 Gribeauval. While throwing a smaller weight of metal than the howitzers fielded by the Atterton monarchy, it is lighter , longer-ranged and more accurate. Its limber is designed to allow gunners to sit on the ammunition chest during transport, allowing for faster movement of the artillery train. It can shoot solid ball, Dunwich canister shot or carcass shot for shore defense duties.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

+1 to Von Karsten 8-pounder

[Baffler]

+1 to Von Karsten 8-pounder

+1.

[Sheb]

Code: (Design Vote) [Select]

Von Karsten 8-Pounder: Sheb, Ukrainian Ranger, Baffler
Cricket Battalion Gun: PlayerGamer, WolfHunter

Code: (Flag Vote) [Select]

Glory Merited: Sheb
Ergo Futura Victoria: Baffler

[Playergamer]

+1 Glory Merited for the flag.

[Funk]

Code: (Design Vote) [Select]

Von Karsten 8-Pounder: Sheb, Ukrainian Ranger, Baffler
Cricket Battalion Gun: PlayerGamer, WolfHunter
Thunderbolt dart Rifle: Funk, RAM?
Ram did vote for the Thunderbolt dart Rifle but that was before the other designs so he may well change it.

Code: (Flag Vote) [Select]

Glory Merited: Sheb
Ergo Futura Victoria: Baffler,Funk[/quote]

[Wolfhunter107]

+1 to Von Karsten 8-pounder

+1.

+1
Changing vote from the 3-pounder to this.

[RAM]

I still support the dart rifle. If we were going for a three pounder, then I would try for a rifled revolver.

Spoiler: new proposal, nice bracelets (click to show/hide)

Alternatively, We could build domed structures with small openings at the apex. Within would be concentric circles of pure silver. Three consecutive generations of strong individuals would be combined in the centre and extinguished at a moment at which only blackness is visible through the hole above. The limitless unknown above would be compelled to replace the void left by the sudden loss of elemental vitality, physicality, and eternity(granted by consecutive generations and required to provide compatibility with the eternal nature of the unknown) and be bound within pure silver. A breach in the innermost circle of silver would be made by placing a trap across it, the bound essences will seek to expand beyond the innermost circle and enter the trap. The trap, obviously, will be a silver loop, preferably bound in leather to provide the rumour of a living will of containment, twisted such that it is open from an external perspective but from within is an unbroken loop. Once so contained, the unknown is delivered to the front lines...

By placing a limb within the trap the unknown is bound to the limb's former owner, at which point the trap is broken to release the unknown into the host. The host is then swiftly compelled to approach the enemy lines while they still retain the malleability of the host. Compelled to maintain its manifestation, the unknown will enhance the host's physical qualities to extreme proportions and do battle with the enemy, which are surely seeking to do harm to the manifestation. In the course of the battle the unknown will fully expend itself maintaining its manifestation against the enemy and thus dissipate harmlessly. Under no circumstances may a manifestation be permitted to survive a battle...