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Author Topic: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1782 Revision Phase  (Read 36392 times)

Graknorke

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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1782 Revision Phase
« Reply #435 on: December 06, 2015, 05:56:24 pm »

So let's have a go at a proposal:
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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1782 Revision Phase
« Reply #436 on: December 06, 2015, 06:22:29 pm »

All I might add is a number of cannon. I'd say 15, for two six-gun broadsides, two stern-chasers and a bow-chaser. Other than that +1.
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« Reply #437 on: December 06, 2015, 06:24:58 pm »

All I might add is a number of cannon. I'd say 15, for two six-gun broadsides, two stern-chasers and a bow-chaser. Other than that +1.

Just seems like it wouldnt do much against their ships though.
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« Reply #438 on: December 06, 2015, 11:14:18 pm »

It's literally three less than the Loyalists have on their London-class, and only two less per broadside. The Loyalists took down the pirates' ships easily enough. Dover-classes are even less armed than the pirates' Jaegars, so I think we should be fine.
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« Reply #439 on: December 07, 2015, 12:35:02 am »

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Their guns give them an advantage broadside (with the numbers or not), so we need to be inventive. This boat is designed to be fast enough to decide when and where battles should be fought.

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« Reply #440 on: December 07, 2015, 12:51:44 am »

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Their guns give them an advantage broadside (with the numbers or not), so we need to be inventive. This boat is designed to be fast enough to decide when and where battles should be fought.

+1 That does sound better, since it suitable for hit and run.

Just asking but would our new steam tech not be stronger than current one on it? since low pressure and paddle wheel worked on  SS Savannah which is bigger than our current mulard and was built fairly soon as it was first steamship to sail across ocean I believe?
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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1782 Revision Phase
« Reply #441 on: December 07, 2015, 02:59:32 am »

I'd rather be able to use all varieties of shot in our chasers, and also I think the problem of the moving firing platform is always a huge problem for indirect fire artillery on ships, one that won't be solved until the dreadnought era. Therefore, I'd rather just use conventional cannon. Bermuda rig sounds like a good idea.
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« Reply #442 on: December 07, 2015, 03:42:45 am »

I'd rather be able to use all varieties of shot in our chasers, and also I think the problem of the moving firing platform is always a huge problem for indirect fire artillery on ships, one that won't be solved until the dreadnought era. Therefore, I'd rather just use conventional cannon. Bermuda rig sounds like a good idea.

Arnt most ship weaponary fixed to areas on the ship those days since it was time consuming and labourless to try move them.
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« Reply #443 on: December 07, 2015, 04:22:21 am »

The whole ship is moving in the waves, which throws accuracy way off for indirect fire like howitzers and mortars.
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« Reply #444 on: December 07, 2015, 04:41:28 am »

The whole ship is moving in the waves, which throws accuracy way off for indirect fire like howitzers and mortars.

Well R-2 fires only mounted on the front it be so all it need to be is foward facing enemy ships to set them on fire.
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« Reply #445 on: December 07, 2015, 05:19:40 am »

1. SS Savannah is smaller than our Mullard by some 20 ft in length.
2. I can work with conventional cannons, though I'd push strongly for designing carronades that can be used in place of 6-lbers next turn if we wanted to rely on the broadside.

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« Reply #446 on: December 07, 2015, 09:56:54 am »

We didn't design the ship this turn because resources are more important to our performance long-term than design effectiveness. Our weapons are outdated we suffer for a year, our resources fall too far behind and our enemies get a lot of momentum.
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« Reply #447 on: December 07, 2015, 11:44:09 am »

We didn't design the ship this turn because resources are more important to our performance long-term than design effectiveness. Our weapons are outdated we suffer for a year, our resources fall too far behind and our enemies get a lot of momentum.
We could design a better boat then revise roadways.

Though the long-term benefits of powered railways is not to be belittled.

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« Reply #448 on: December 07, 2015, 11:55:56 am »

We didn't design the ship this turn because resources are more important to our performance long-term than design effectiveness. Our weapons are outdated we suffer for a year, our resources fall too far behind and our enemies get a lot of momentum.
We could design a better boat then revise roadways.

Though the long-term benefits of powered railways is not to be belittled.

Yeah gaining resource advantage would better since we could go crazier with designs then.
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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1782 Revision Phase
« Reply #449 on: December 07, 2015, 06:09:54 pm »

In my opinion, you've changed so many things about the Mulard that it is basically a new design.
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