Bay 12 Games Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  
Pages: 1 ... 16 17 [18] 19 20 ... 35

Author Topic: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1782 Revision Phase  (Read 36563 times)

Graknorke

  • Bay Watcher
  • A bomb's a bad choice for close-range combat.
    • View Profile
Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1781 Revision Phase
« Reply #255 on: November 24, 2015, 07:51:03 pm »

Okay, lay that idea out for us then. The king didn't collect a team of engineers together so that they could keep their thoughts to themselves.
Logged
Cultural status:
Depleted          ☐
Enriched          ☑

flazeo25

  • Bay Watcher
  • Nightmare Eater
    • View Profile
Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1781 Revision Phase
« Reply #256 on: November 24, 2015, 07:55:22 pm »

Okay, lay that idea out for us then. The king didn't collect a team of engineers together so that they could keep their thoughts to themselves.

Idea still being worked on but main problem is power, were not producing enough since ships this size are still small compared to ones twice the size powered by steam and its mainly our hull not good enough.
Logged

Graknorke

  • Bay Watcher
  • A bomb's a bad choice for close-range combat.
    • View Profile
Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1781 Revision Phase
« Reply #257 on: November 24, 2015, 07:56:25 pm »

No, if you read the description it clearly states that the issue is that the ship was too heavy and badly balanced, so doesn't float well. More power = more weight, and that only makes both of those problems worse.
Logged
Cultural status:
Depleted          ☐
Enriched          ☑

tntey

  • Bay Watcher
  • Likes Fishbone for its ska
    • View Profile
Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1781 Revision Phase
« Reply #258 on: November 24, 2015, 07:58:11 pm »

Rereading the post, the problems with the boat as I see it.

Not able to carry enough weight

Can't withstand waves and currents.

Armor is too heavy
Logged
Speaking of lowest intelligence, that reminds me of the fact that it's probably your first time in prison. Don't worry, I can give you some tips, having spent some time in a few myself. The best way to make friends here is to drop the soap during shower time. Try it, I'm sure you'll love making friends like that!

flazeo25

  • Bay Watcher
  • Nightmare Eater
    • View Profile
Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1781 Revision Phase
« Reply #259 on: November 24, 2015, 08:05:31 pm »

Rereading the post, the problems with the boat as I see it.

Not able to carry enough weight

Can't withstand waves and currents.

Armor is too heavy

So it doesnt have enough boyance then
Logged

Graknorke

  • Bay Watcher
  • A bomb's a bad choice for close-range combat.
    • View Profile
Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1781 Revision Phase
« Reply #260 on: November 24, 2015, 08:11:07 pm »

Yes, partially as a direct consequence of the hull shape having to have paddles cutting into it, from what I can infer. And also because steam engines are just heavy. Anything we put into the Mulard is basically just a hope that we get lucky enough to counter the abysmal penalties from complexity. And I just don't think we have the luxury of taking chances like that right now when we only got through last turn with a small net loss because we happened to pick the right point to defend.

EDIT: TL;DR: The Mulard is a research sink that we should only be bothering with when we have the luxury of a competitive arsenal. We don't right now.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2015, 08:12:38 pm by Graknorke »
Logged
Cultural status:
Depleted          ☐
Enriched          ☑

Snake1229

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1781 Revision Phase
« Reply #261 on: November 24, 2015, 08:12:13 pm »

Lets try to get the howitzer less expensive, and to do better
Logged

Graknorke

  • Bay Watcher
  • A bomb's a bad choice for close-range combat.
    • View Profile
Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1781 Revision Phase
« Reply #262 on: November 24, 2015, 08:14:01 pm »

Lets try to get the howitzer less expensive, and to do better
The howitzer can't be less expensive because it's a land artillery piece that fires projectiles more than 3 lbs and that's where the resource limits are, but as I said before, getting the spherical cases would give us some formidable long-range capacity to do damage to soldiers and cavalry and anything made of wood.

But whatever. I've made it known where I stand. I probably won't be posting again before the revision goes through so I can't do much else about what happens.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2015, 08:16:42 pm by Graknorke »
Logged
Cultural status:
Depleted          ☐
Enriched          ☑

Snake1229

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1781 Revision Phase
« Reply #263 on: November 24, 2015, 08:15:08 pm »

Lets try to get the howitzer less expensive, and to do better
The howitzer can't be less expensive because it's a land artillery piece that fires projectiles more than 3 lbs, but as I said before, getting the spherical cases would give us some formidable long-range capacity to do damage to soldiers and cavalry and anything made of wood.
Okay, lets do a revision to get the spherical cases
Logged

flazeo25

  • Bay Watcher
  • Nightmare Eater
    • View Profile
Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1781 Revision Phase
« Reply #264 on: November 24, 2015, 08:47:00 pm »

Heres my revision type for howitzer then.


the crude fuse time is to help fix the problem of the both shells not firing at right time.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2015, 08:48:34 pm by flazeo25 »
Logged

tntey

  • Bay Watcher
  • Likes Fishbone for its ska
    • View Profile
Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1781 Revision Phase
« Reply #265 on: November 24, 2015, 08:54:24 pm »

Couldn't we just improve the ammo instead of the gun?
Logged
Speaking of lowest intelligence, that reminds me of the fact that it's probably your first time in prison. Don't worry, I can give you some tips, having spent some time in a few myself. The best way to make friends here is to drop the soap during shower time. Try it, I'm sure you'll love making friends like that!

Snake1229

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1781 Revision Phase
« Reply #266 on: November 24, 2015, 08:55:06 pm »

Heres my revision type for howitzer then.


the crude fuse time is to help fix the problem of the both shells not firing at right time.
The canister shell works, it is just the ball and explosive shells that didn't, we need to revise to get those to work
And I don't think sabots were invented till tanks rolled up, due to them being designed to pierce armor
Logged

flazeo25

  • Bay Watcher
  • Nightmare Eater
    • View Profile
Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1781 Revision Phase
« Reply #267 on: November 24, 2015, 09:12:49 pm »

Didnt change anything about the canisters and sabot type was used by britsh in 1830s for cannons.
Logged

Snake1229

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1781 Revision Phase
« Reply #268 on: November 24, 2015, 09:13:47 pm »

Didnt change anything about the canisters and sabot type was used by britsh in 1830s for cannons.
It is the 1780s, over 50 years too early
Logged

flazeo25

  • Bay Watcher
  • Nightmare Eater
    • View Profile
Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1781 Revision Phase
« Reply #269 on: November 24, 2015, 09:16:14 pm »

Didnt change anything about the canisters and sabot type was used by britsh in 1830s for cannons.
It is the 1780s, over 50 years too early
Our type of howtizer is 75 years early. since its based on ammerican civil war ones.
Logged
Pages: 1 ... 16 17 [18] 19 20 ... 35