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Author Topic: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1782 Revision Phase  (Read 36489 times)

Zanzetkuken The Great

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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Espionage Phase
« Reply #135 on: November 19, 2015, 09:14:25 am »

Vote is currently a bit divided between sabotage and tech theft.  Which will it be?
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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Espionage Phase
« Reply #136 on: November 19, 2015, 09:31:09 am »

Tech theft.
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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Espionage Phase
« Reply #137 on: November 19, 2015, 10:48:32 am »

Looks like it's unanimous now.
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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Espionage Phase
« Reply #138 on: November 19, 2015, 12:11:41 pm »

Alright then, setting to stealing the Design of the Dunwich Meritocratic Confederacy.  The results of your attempt will be given in this thread at the start of the next turn.

Begin Focus Phase

Offensive Targets:
Ft. Combe (Indepenent)
Ft. Alton (Independent)
Montegomery (Dunwich Meritocratic Confederacy)
Bradford (Dunwich Meritocratic Confederacy)
Sea (Pirates)
Sea (Dunwich Meritocratic Confederacy)
Sea (British Loyalists)

May choose to shore up one of your cities to boost defenses as well.
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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Focus Phase
« Reply #139 on: November 19, 2015, 12:22:09 pm »

Should we go for land or sea based focus?

Also do we know anything about the indepent factions like defensive or offensive capabilties?
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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Focus Phase
« Reply #140 on: November 19, 2015, 12:33:02 pm »

Well if we attack Montgomery then it'll be getting a heavy focus both from us by choice and the Imperial navy by proximity. That's not necessarily good for us though, since it means they'll probably be causing problems for us too.
Alternatively, focusing Bradford would let us launch a strong attack with little outside interference, which might be good or bad. We'd probably have the upper hand in a land battle, but I doubt we'd manage to make that much progress in a year either way.
As for the sea, I can't really evaluate how useful that might be in comparison. Our production advantage will give us a stronger position on the seas anyway.

I won't grab the direction of this decision though, it's a decision with a lot of options and having multiple viewpoints would help to narrow it down.

And for the record, I am against attacking the Independent factions. They are not actively trying to get in our way, and I'm sure they'll be willing to cooperate once we win the war.
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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Focus Phase
« Reply #141 on: November 19, 2015, 12:38:34 pm »

Well if we attack Montgomery then it'll be getting a heavy focus both from us by choice and the Imperial navy by proximity. That's not necessarily good for us though, since it means they'll probably be causing problems for us too.
Alternatively, focusing Bradford would let us launch a strong attack with little outside interference, which might be good or bad. We'd probably have the upper hand in a land battle, but I doubt we'd manage to make that much progress in a year either way.
As for the sea, I can't really evaluate how useful that might be in comparison. Our production advantage will give us a stronger position on the seas anyway.

I won't grab the direction of this decision though, it's a decision with a lot of options and having multiple viewpoints would help to narrow it down.

And for the record, I am against attacking the Independent factions. They are not actively trying to get in our way, and I'm sure they'll be willing to cooperate once we win the war.

Just wondering if independents are capable of being captured thats it, if we can do both focuses such as defense and offense then attacking Bradford by land and shoring up port silver costial area for defence would be good.
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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Focus Phase
« Reply #142 on: November 19, 2015, 07:34:45 pm »

I would support attacking Bradford and defending Port Silver. They seem to be the more obvious options.
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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Focus Phase
« Reply #143 on: November 19, 2015, 07:44:36 pm »

I would support attacking Bradford and defending Port Silver. They seem to be the more obvious options.
I support it.
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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Focus Phase
« Reply #144 on: November 20, 2015, 05:23:02 am »

I would support attacking Bradford and defending Port Silver. They seem to be the more obvious options.
I support it.
So do I.
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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Focus Phase
« Reply #145 on: November 20, 2015, 08:21:29 pm »

From what just seen that those independent can rolled over if attack any thoughts instead on focusing on them?
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« Reply #146 on: November 20, 2015, 08:33:50 pm »

No, they can't be just rolled over.

What can be rolled over are the nations with black borders (the ones between Combe and Alton and between Newton and Bradford).

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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Focus Phase
« Reply #147 on: November 20, 2015, 09:03:37 pm »

Focus is set to assaulting Bradford and defending Port Silver by highest vote at the deadline.

Phase is going to be set to future planning while the turn is being written up.
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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Future Planning
« Reply #148 on: November 21, 2015, 04:05:41 am »

Hey everybody. I'm glad to be working with you. Shall we start thinking about what we're going to do in the next couple of turns?

Reading through the thread I saw several mentions of mortars, which are an option and within the time period:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coehorn

However, my thinking is that if we're serious about dominating the sea, we should design a class of ship that we can build a lot of, cheaply, right now. My idea would be something like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee-class_brig-sloop

Steam-powered ships being that much better than sail-powered is still a way off, and if we have practical experience of building good warships that work, we'll have a leg up when that time comes. I'd prefer to design a small ship to save on cost and insure ourselves against another National Effort result.

I think our next revision phase should either be spent downsizing our cannon to 3-pounders, or creating a carbine version of the Brown Bess. 3-pounder cannon would no longer be Very Expensive, so our ground troops could have more close artillery support and we could turn out more ships. Also, a 3-pounder should be enough to sink opposing gunboats. Carbines would make our cavalry better.

Overall, my plan would be to design a sailing sloop about 100 feet long by 25 feet wide, carrying 2 3-pound bow chasers, 2 3-pound stern chasers, and 4 3-pounders on each broadside. In our revision, we would downsize our existing 6-pound cannon to 3-pounders. After that I have no idea what we do.

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« Reply #149 on: November 21, 2015, 05:42:24 am »

If it's a new vehicle I don't think we'd have to design the cannons specifically, especially since we're making them smaller. The same way as we managed to get steam engines and paddle wheels from our attempt at the Mulard. The game would end up bogged down in minutae otherwise.
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