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Author Topic: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1782 Revision Phase  (Read 36414 times)

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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Revision Phase
« Reply #90 on: November 15, 2015, 08:31:32 pm »

Molotovs as they exist are a pretty recent thing, and to the best of my knowledge wouldn't be very useful on mud/dirt. Incendiary weapons have only ever really been used to cause damage to structures, since they're a bit of a misallocation of resources for anything else.

Also, no petrol until the 19th century.
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« Reply #91 on: November 15, 2015, 08:40:46 pm »

Molotovs as they exist are a pretty recent thing, and to the best of my knowledge wouldn't be very useful on mud/dirt. Incendiary weapons have only ever really been used to cause damage to structures, since they're a bit of a misallocation of resources for anything else.

Also, no petrol until the 19th century.
I'm sure we could find some other burnable substance. Also, Molotovs can break a line of troops, and probably burn down a ship.
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« Reply #92 on: November 15, 2015, 08:46:44 pm »

For ships you'd use regular old burning tar projectiles. For troops, we're fighting largely in natural spaces so you need something a bit more potent than alcohol or whatever to have a worthwhile effect. And still nobody does. Because it's not really effective in an open space. Maybe when we descend to the point of razing towns and villages from a distance then we'll consider it.
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« Reply #93 on: November 15, 2015, 08:52:22 pm »

For ships you'd use regular old burning tar projectiles. For troops, we're fighting largely in natural spaces so you need something a bit more potent than alcohol or whatever to have a worthwhile effect. And still nobody does. Because it's not really effective in an open space. Maybe when we descend to the point of razing towns and villages from a distance then we'll consider it.
Okay. If we are trying to take out troops, could we create some kind of bottle that when thrown creates a posionous gas?
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« Reply #94 on: November 16, 2015, 04:11:38 am »

Don't think we have proper chemistry either. Maybe by the early to mid 19th century we could have a go at preempting various chemical weapons conventions.
Right now there's explosives and projectiles to work with and not a great deal else. That leaves some room for experimentation but we can't stretch too far.
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« Reply #95 on: November 16, 2015, 10:57:05 am »

How do basic mortors work? Also, can we create some sort of grapeshot
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« Reply #96 on: November 16, 2015, 11:29:13 am »

How do basic mortors work? Also, can we create some sort of grapeshot
Mortars are suprisingly simple since it's just a rounded smootherbane welded to flat piece with bipod to hold it, at the bottom of tube is a firepin which when a mortar is dropped is ignited and pressure fires it out I believe.
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« Reply #97 on: November 16, 2015, 01:52:58 pm »

Oh okay. But what about making sound kind of grapeshot that can be fired from cannons or muskets
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« Reply #98 on: November 16, 2015, 01:58:41 pm »

Oh okay. But what about making sound kind of grapeshot that can be fired from cannons or muskets
Well if we make a mortar next turn we could make a varity that fires grapeshots aswell. since grapeshots exist well before 1780
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« Reply #99 on: November 16, 2015, 02:04:08 pm »

Oh okay. But what about making sound kind of grapeshot that can be fired from cannons or muskets
Well if we make a mortar next turn we could make a varity that fires grapeshots aswell. since grapeshots exist well before 1780
We could make grape shots that fire from muskets to make some kind of shotgun
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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Revision Phase
« Reply #100 on: November 16, 2015, 02:06:58 pm »

Oh okay. But what about making sound kind of grapeshot that can be fired from cannons or muskets
Well if we make a mortar next turn we could make a varity that fires grapeshots aswell. since grapeshots exist well before 1780
We could make grape shots that fire from muskets to make some kind of shotgun
yeah but we cant do it yet in revision only in design phase.
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« Reply #101 on: November 16, 2015, 02:09:07 pm »

Oh okay. But what about making sound kind of grapeshot that can be fired from cannons or muskets
Well if we make a mortar next turn we could make a varity that fires grapeshots aswell. since grapeshots exist well before 1780
We could make grape shots that fire from muskets to make some kind of shotgun
yeah but we cant do it yet in revision only in design phase.
We can do it next turn. I feel like mortars are a little advance for the time
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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Revision Phase
« Reply #102 on: November 16, 2015, 02:13:41 pm »

Oh okay. But what about making sound kind of grapeshot that can be fired from cannons or muskets
Well if we make a mortar next turn we could make a varity that fires grapeshots aswell. since grapeshots exist well before 1780
We could make grape shots that fire from muskets to make some kind of shotgun
They might be a bit advanced by timeline but design wise their simple, main thing is what are we doing for this revision phase.
yeah but we cant do it yet in revision only in design phase.
We can do it next turn. I feel like mortars are a little advance for the time
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« Reply #103 on: November 16, 2015, 02:39:50 pm »

Oh okay. But what about making sound kind of grapeshot that can be fired from cannons or muskets
Well if we make a mortar next turn we could make a varity that fires grapeshots aswell. since grapeshots exist well before 1780
We could make grape shots that fire from muskets to make some kind of shotgun
They might be a bit advanced by timeline but design wise their simple, main thing is what are we doing for this revision phase.
yeah but we cant do it yet in revision only in design phase.
We can do it next turn. I feel like mortars are a little advance for the time

Uhh. What were you trying to say?
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« Reply #104 on: November 16, 2015, 02:55:44 pm »

They might be a bit advanced by timeline but design wise their simple, main thing is what are we doing for this revision phase.
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