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Author Topic: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1782 Revision Phase  (Read 36355 times)

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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Design Phase
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2015, 10:40:40 pm »

Don't forget too many cannons will increase weigth and cost alot.
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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Design Phase
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2015, 10:45:09 pm »

Don't forget too many cannons will increase weigth and cost alot.
Well more cannons = a more likely chance of survivibility
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Re: Arms Race: 1780 - Atterton Monarchy -1780 Design Phase
« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2015, 10:47:07 pm »

For a ship that big you'd be looking at tens or even over a hundred guns. So if we only want a couple cannons it's going to have to be scaled down. A lot. Otherwise it's just wasted space.

And actually thinking of scaling issues, maybe we could skip straight past paddle wheels and go to propellers? Being that we know how great they are and also are in the position of engineers for the Glorious Atterton Monarchy.
The propeller has the benefit of keeping all the propulsion systems under the waterline and therefore less likely to be damaged, and also they work better.
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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2015, 10:50:23 pm »

For a ship that big you'd be looking at tens or even over a hundred guns. So if we only want a couple cannons it's going to have to be scaled down. A lot. Otherwise it's just wasted space.

And actually thinking of scaling issues, maybe we could skip straight past paddle wheels and go to propellers? Being that we know how great they are and also are in the position of engineers for the Glorious Atterton Monarchy.
The propeller has the benefit of keeping all the propulsion systems under the waterline and therefore less likely to be damaged, and also they work better.

So screw-propeller steam ship then? since it not to far off and for cannon 2 on each side and mini cannon one front?
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« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2015, 10:57:14 pm »

If we're having 2 cannons each side then my maybe wrong estimates about the relationship between width and number of guns suggests that we want the Mulard to be about 10 feet across then.
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« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2015, 10:59:08 pm »

Ok then here's a second one:

Spoiler: AM-MulardA (click to show/hide)

Length in meters would be about 35m and in width 7m
« Last Edit: November 14, 2015, 11:06:34 pm by flazeo25 »
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« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2015, 11:05:19 pm »

I'd still trim down the length a bit, go for a length:beam ratio of 5:1 or so? That seems to be pretty standard for wooden ships.
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« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2015, 11:07:13 pm »

I'd still trim down the length a bit, go for a length:beam ratio of 5:1 or so? That seems to be pretty standard for wooden ships.

Ok edited it to 115 feet which is 35 meters so makes 5:1 now. which makes it about yacht size or bit smaller than yacht.

Is the design ok now.
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« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2015, 04:37:03 am »

I think it's looking good. Although if it was my design I'd slap 2-4 more cannons on it.
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« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2015, 07:22:59 am »

Looks pretty good. Next turn should we create some kind of boarding weapon?
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« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2015, 07:32:26 am »

I'd rather improve our ground forces.
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« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2015, 07:35:15 am »

I'd rather improve our ground forces.
Okay. I would like to create faster loading muskets soon.
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« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2015, 09:00:27 am »

I'd rather improve our ground forces.
Okay. I would like to create faster loading muskets soon.

We could try have a go at making simple mortors next turn?
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« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2015, 09:12:50 am »

Spoiler: AM-MulardA (click to show/hide)
So, cost estimate on this please Zan?
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« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2015, 10:24:19 am »

I'd rather improve our ground forces.
Okay. I would like to create faster loading muskets soon.

We could try have a go at making simple mortors next turn?

Yeah. This turn, should we try and improve our muskets so they reload faster?
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