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[tntey]

I vote to make bigger ships with steam engines. They can hold three cannons. It will be called 'Steamy'

[Graknorke]

I agree, our weakest area does look to be our navy. Steam would be a bit risky because to my knowledge steam engines were in their infancy about this time, but it shouldn't be impossible. And being designed as a military ship it's going to be better than anything we can borrow off some fisherman even if we put the same amount of materials in.

As far as I can see the only way to do it with an engine so large would be paddle-based propulsion. Not sure on the 3 cannons though, they're pretty big.

And let's not call it steamy. We should totally name it the 'Mulard', like the duck.

[tntey]

I agree, our weakest area does look to be our navy. Steam would be a bit risky because to my knowledge steam engines were in their infancy about this time, but it shouldn't be impossible. And being designed as a military ship it's going to be better than anything we can borrow off some fisherman even if we put the same amount of materials in.

As far as I can see the only way to do it with an engine so large would be paddle-based propulsion. Not sure on the 3 cannons though, they're pretty big.

And let's not call it steamy. We should totally name it the 'Mulard', like the duck.

Yes. I like the Mulard. So, it'll have a steam engine and be bigger and stronger then a fishing boat?

[tntey]

And let's sabatage attertown

[Graknorke]

Do we get a spy action first year? If so we should specifically try to sabotage either their infantry weapons or artillery, since we're not bringing anything new to the land battles and they might be.

[flazeo25]

So were going with steam boat then?

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

And let's sabatage attertown

I'm not going to question why you want to sabotage yourself, but I am going to point out that you still have the Revision and Production phases to go through before you reach the Espionage phase.  Flesh out an agreement on the design so you can finish this phase, and then the other two, before you start thinking of espionage stuff.

[Graknorke]

Okay so we have the Mulard; steam paddle powered, 3 cannons (1 front 2 side mounted?) but honestly I reckon we should cut it down to 2, primarily wood construction but probably metal plating around some important bits like the engine and paddles...
Any details I missed that we need to know?

[flazeo25]

Will this do:

We discuss a design for steam boat if were all agreeing on it, then for revision we fix any faults, as for production we see how many can be made and for spying we sabaotage the confedrancy?

Okay so we have the Mulard; steam paddle powered, 3 cannons (1 front 2 side mounted?) but honestly I reckon we should cut it down to 2, primarily wood construction but probably metal plating around some important bits like the engine and paddles...
Any details I missed that we need to know?

Think we also missed design lengths like width and describing the engine.

[tntey]

And let's sabatage attertown

I'm not going to question why you want to sabotage yourself, but I am going to point out that you still have the Revision and Production phases to go through before you reach the Espionage phase.  Flesh out an agreement on the design so you can finish this phase, and then the other two, before you start thinking of espionage stuff.

Ohh. Uhh. I goofed

[flazeo25]

Heres a design document I propose for Mulard.

Spoiler: AM-Mulard (click to show/hide)

Am-Mulard is steam boat composed mainly of wooden frame with thin layer of metal plating covering the outer layer. It is 260 feet in length and 66 feet wide containing four boilers. Housing a steam engine and with spare rafting paddles for emergency. It has two cannons fixed each fixed to both sides of the boat.

[Graknorke]

Did you just imply that we should have redundant engines/paddle wheels? Because that's going to be a serious amount of extra weight. Not really worth it IMO.

[flazeo25]

Did you just imply that we should have redundant engines/paddle wheels? Because that's going to be a serious amount of extra weight. Not really worth it IMO.

By paddles I meant just few large sticks for rowing incase of crictial engine failure.

[Graknorke]

Oh. Probably still not worth it, you'd need a full on slave team to row like that and you wouldn't be going very fast. It just adds potential weak points in the hull. Besides, steam engines the likes of which we could make are pretty easy to maintain (have a look at the Watt Engine, so few moving parts), so any failure short of it blowing up would be fixable. And if it does blow up there's bigger problems than the engine working

[tntey]

Oh. Probably still not worth it, you'd need a full on slave team to row like that and you wouldn't be going very fast. It just adds potential weak points in the hull. Besides, steam engines the likes of which we could make are pretty easy to maintain (have a look at the Watt Engine, so few moving parts), so any failure short of it blowing up would be fixable. And if it does blow up there's bigger problems than the engine working

Yeah. Also, a ship that long needs more then 1 cannon per side. It should 2 or 3 per side