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[10ebbor10]

Stealing your design, and we're going to attack one of the independent and the Monarchy.

@Dunwich

That's a PM, I guess?

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Not sure if a Carronade is a great idea. Our current is already quite crappy (with it's 400 meter range). A Carronade might be outranged by common guns.

Your current gun is a converted field gun.

Lest I forget: @Zanzetkuken: Do we have access to canister shot for our current artillery? Because if not, then that's the next research priority. Or, even better: 1784 is the year that Lieutenant Shrapnel was beginning to develop his spherical case shot [1]. That's a devastating weapon right there - referenced as Britain's 'Secret Weapon' during the Napoleonic wars.

Only have the basic cannonball at the current time.

Stealing your design, and we're going to attack one of the independent and the Monarchy.

@Dunwich

That's a PM, I guess?

Don't forget diplomatic channels are offline right now, if it is.

[Kot]

Stealing your design, and we're going to attack one of the independent and the Monarchy.

@Dunwich

That's a PM, I guess?

No, obviously I went into their thread and they were so kind to me to tell me what they're going to do.
EDIT: /s, because I know there are people who will take it seriously.

Don't forget diplomatic channels are offline right now, if it is.

It's not diplomacy, we're not exactly setting anything up. It's letters in bottles, I guess.
Also, I belive it would be even harder to forbid all communication than to stop people peeking in each other's threads.

[10ebbor10]

Only the basic cannonball?

That certainly needs to be rectified. Let's see, canister shot, chain shot, explosive shells, Carcass, heated shot, spider shot. Of those, we probably need only 2-3, anti-infantry, anti-naval and something explosive.

[fillipk]

Explosive shells would wreck ships so that should be a priority, to cement our control of the seas and force the other two nations into a land tech race where we can steal from both sides.

[10ebbor10]

Explosive shells are a blessing and a curse. Accidental detonation was not uncommon. This could be resolved with lower charges, but that heavily reduce range and accuracy.

Carcass shots are less prone to spontanous detonation and much more deadly, being basically incendairy shells.

[Kot]

Like the carcass doesn't sometimes bust into pieces right the second it goes out of barrel setting the users on fire, rather than the target.

[10ebbor10]

If the carcass fails in the cannon, its an incendairy charge contained within the barrel. An explosion is not so easily contained.

But yes, it might be best to avoid incendairy and explosive weaponry on ships.

[3_14159]

If the carcass fails in the cannon, its an incendairy charge contained within the barrel. An explosion is not so easily contained.

But yes, it might be best to avoid incendairy and explosive weaponry on ships.

It's not a ship, it's a highly-combustible spontaneous energy-release platform.

[fillipk]

We could always just invent metal ships and solve both problems.

[coleslaw35]

We could always just invent metal ships and solve both problems.

Ironclads, huh? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.

[10ebbor10]

Metal ships don't solve both problems. They make explosive and incendiary shells ineffective, but they won't protect against a shell going of inside the armor, next to the cannon's with all the other ammunition.

Anyway, the Ironclad won't be invented for another 70 years. I mean, steam engines have yet to pass the point of being actually usefull for naval purposes.

[Kot]

Man, its an incendiary charge contained within the barrel which means you just got a fucking flamethrower going off in your cannon, possibly spilling out of it and reaching the rest of ammo stored nearby, and the rest is, as they say, history. You do not want that, either on highly-combustible spontaneous energy-release platform or in forest or in grassland or basically everywhere.

[Aseaheru]

 Chain and canister will be useful both in naval and terrestrial combat, and while explosive would be nice, well, that typically needed special guns. Heated is just, well, heated round shot... Barshot perhaps?

[10ebbor10]

In any case, I don't think we'll be able to use either in our current cannons. The shell will likely break apart due to the severe forces involving direct fire.