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Micro102

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Marksdwarves won't train! Possible bolt assignment bug.
« on: November 14, 2015, 01:28:23 am »

Normally when I have this problem going through the wiki page here http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Advanced_Marksdwarf_Training_Guide fixes it. But now it's not working. I've been trying everything I can get my hands on but nothing works. I have noticed something odd though.

When selecting ammo for your squads to use, when I select any material, no metal bolts show up on the right side. When I select just metal, bone bolts show up on the right side. When I select bone bolts, only non-humanoid bone bolts show up on the right side. This doesn't seem right. Any ideas?


EDIT: I fixed my problem, the guide told me to set them to exact matches for uniforms, but I switch them to partial and suddenly it works.... Maybe because I told them to wear things I have not yet produced. I would still like to know what is up with the bolts though.

EDITEDIT: Nope my problem is back, they shot one volley of bolts and then stopped, back to no activity.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2015, 01:46:30 am by Micro102 »
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Shonai_Dweller

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Re: Marksdwarves won't train! Possible bolt assignment bug.
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2015, 01:59:17 am »

Don't select ammo. Wastes a lot of bolts, but they're pretty easy to produce. There are other bugs related to ammo type selection. Ignoring the whole thing seems to work just fine.

Edit - You have a barracks set up as well as an archery range right?
« Last Edit: November 14, 2015, 02:01:46 am by Shonai_Dweller »
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Micro102

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Re: Marksdwarves won't train! Possible bolt assignment bug.
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2015, 02:09:42 am »

Don't select ammo. Wastes a lot of bolts, but they're pretty easy to produce. There are other bugs related to ammo type selection. Ignoring the whole thing seems to work just fine.

Edit - You have a barracks set up as well as an archery range right?

Me selecting the type of ammo was just to try and figure out why my dwarves weren't training. I don't have a material selected right now and they won't train.

I have tried barracks with sleep and training, I have tried barracks with just sleep, I have tried no barracks. Archery range is set up just fine. They train for very short periods of time when I do certain random things but then stop for very long periods of time.
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Re: Marksdwarves won't train! Possible bolt assignment bug.
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2015, 02:36:08 am »

What does it say they are doing when they're 'stopped'?
If the barracks is set up properly, and the training alert is activated (easy step to forget), they'll shoot for a bit, then they'll do other military training for a while (dodging, striking, biting, etc). It's easy to miss as Dwarves are all stood still for most training.

If training alert isn't activated they'll use the range when they feel like it and may indulge in individual drill too.
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Re: Marksdwarves won't train! Possible bolt assignment bug.
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2015, 02:41:49 am »

What does it say they are doing when they're 'stopped'?
If the barracks is set up properly, and the training alert is activated (easy step to forget), they'll shoot for a bit, then they'll do other military training for a while (dodging, striking, biting, etc). It's easy to miss as Dwarves are all stood still for most training.

If training alert isn't activated they'll use the range when they feel like it and may indulge in individual drill too.

Their job was "soldier (no activity)". I assumed that something I did with the squad in the past caused a permanent bug with that squad, so I disbanded it, had the dwarves remove all their gear, and started from scratch. It seems to be working now (aside from only one dwarf training at a time). Thanks for the help.
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Re: Marksdwarves won't train! Possible bolt assignment bug.
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2015, 08:13:44 am »

My experience is that it's normal for rank newbies to spend long periods of time somewhere other than at the range.  Give them a barracks to train and they will slowly gain experience there.  As they gain experience, they will spend more time at the range.  Fiddling with settings did nothing for me except make some time pass, until the marksdwarves went to the range on their own.

I do nothing with my marksdwarves except assign them equipment, bolts, targets, and a barracks for training, and then be patient.  Changing scheduling and all of that turned out to be unnecessary for me.  I assign the squad 300 bone bolts until they are legendary, at which point I remove their target assignments and allot them 300 metal bolts instead.
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