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Re: Imagining a Gunpowder DF
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2015, 04:08:22 pm »

Wonder if it'd be possible to use catapults to fire exploding rocks.

Not exploding at the moment, but it may be possible to catapult lignite boulders through a curtain of magma...
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Re: Imagining a Gunpowder DF
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2015, 12:25:35 pm »

Wonder if it'd be possible to use catapults to fire exploding rocks.

Not exploding at the moment, but it may be possible to catapult lignite boulders through a curtain of magma...
Well for the amount of work that takes, you might as well just set up a magma-spewer. Even if it's shorter ranged, you'll get much wider arcs of fire out of it.
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Re: Imagining a Gunpowder DF
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2015, 01:09:31 am »

While I don't think it would work terribly well on a large scale, I did have the idea of creating an adventure-only race with an ability called "Fire Gun" or something that spawns a big cloud of smoke and fires a high-velocity lump of lead. Single shot heavy bore elephant guns would be appropriate in several ways.
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Re: Imagining a Gunpowder DF
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2015, 06:04:45 pm »

You know you have been playing DF too much when you see:
Single shot heavy bore elephant guns would be appropriate in several ways.
And the first thing that crosses your mind  is "Elephants with guns!  Fuck!"

Followed by, "No, guns that fire elephants".
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Re: Imagining a Gunpowder DF
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2015, 06:25:57 pm »

Hahaha :V

You silly, we can already make those!
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Re: Imagining a Gunpowder DF
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2015, 02:02:51 am »

honestly, they'd just be crossbows with faster training and firing rates, at a cost of more materials and reload times

although dwarven artillery of the gunpowder variation would be excessively fun
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Re: Imagining a Gunpowder DF
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2015, 02:51:00 am »

Yep. Late medieval small arms are shit, but artillery, blasting charges, and the occasional 2-bore "Rifle" make up for the matchlock handgonnes and so on.
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Re: Imagining a Gunpowder DF
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2015, 06:04:36 am »

Could you modify catapults to also fire either barrels of booze on fire?
Or even plain minecarts would suffice (with minecarts with minecarts with various heavy/sharp iems inside).
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Re: Imagining a Gunpowder DF
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2015, 06:17:26 am »

Unfortunately, current siege weapons are hard-coded, we can't mod them. Dwarven rail-guns are pretty neat though.
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Re: Imagining a Gunpowder DF
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2015, 06:36:31 am »

I think gunpowder in DF will be crude bombards and hwacha rocket launchers and powder kegs and maaaybe crude portable hand-cannons. Of course, the real fun of gunpowder will be to set cunning, overcomplicated traps and cackle when it goes off and reduces goblins to giblets. That is, if you didn't fail your trap design and your dwarves blow up instead.

Although considering the general tech level that I see we may just say Renaissance tech level and call it a day.

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« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2015, 07:20:42 am »

Unfortunately, current siege weapons are hard-coded, we can't mod them. Dwarven rail-guns are pretty neat though.
So siege weapons are in code and note in raws? When those can't be changed, what about their ammo? Looking around, there is item_siegeammo.txt so maybe one can make ballista shoot something special. Or add some new stone type for catapults.
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Re: Imagining a Gunpowder DF
« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2015, 04:04:29 pm »

Probably. The issue is that the game really isn't set up for things like impact fuses, so the exploding rocks for your catapult would kind go off at random, in your stockpiles.
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Re: Imagining a Gunpowder DF
« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2016, 07:27:07 pm »

With the current physics, throwing coins is the Dwarf Fortress equivalent of a handgun.
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