I looked over Day 1's bandwagons and took some notes on it. There were two bandwagons on
SabertoothTiger, one on
fillipk, and one on
Chromatic Wasp. I quickly threw together a list of each person who voted & FOSed on these bandwagons and their stated reasons.
SabertoothTiger #1: (Starts
here)
hector13 - Voted because Saber did not want attention (1) *later stated to be a pressure vote & implied by later advice*
Myself - FOS for similar reasons as hector13
Chromatic Wasp - FOS for Saber's self-defensive paranoia
FallacyofUrist - Pressure vote to make Saber answer hector's question (2)
fillipk - random pressure/bandwagon vote with RVS-style question. (3)
*fillipk bandwagon starts now* *later stated to be a vote for the purpose of not looking like a liar*
hector13 - Unvote due to fillipk being suspicious (2)
FallacyofUrist - Swaps vote for FOS due to fillipk being suspicious (1)
fillipk - Unvote due to pressure (0)
SabertoothTiger #2: (Starts
here)
Myself - Vote due to Saber's over defensiveness and odd lack of voting (1)
fillipk - FOS due to Saber maybe implying he knew about Cult Lord mechanics
Chromatic Wasp - doubtful Vote due to Saber's contradictory passivity & aggression and his lack of responding to questions (2)
flabort - Vote due to being scummiest of reads (3)
Myself - Unvote due to CW being more suspicious (2)
fillipk: (Starts
here)
Myself - Vote due to anti-town play and suspected rolefishing (1)
hector13 - Vote for same reasons as myself (2)
Chromatic Wasp - Vote due to fillipk's odd hypothetical description (3)
FallacyofUrist - Pressure Vote for fillipk's poorly thought out theorizing (4)
Myself - Unvote due to thinking fillipk was a power role (3) *Chromatic Wasp wagon starts a few posts later*
Chromatic Wasp - Unvote after admitting fillipk vote was a bandwagon/active-lurk vote (2)
hector13 - Swaps vote for FOS due to CW (1)
flabort -
FOS for pressure reasons?SaberToothTiger - Vote due to fillipk voting for him without good reason and lack of response (2)
SaberToothTiger - Unvote due to fillipk not seeming that scummy (1)
Chromatic Wasp:
hector13 - FOS because CW's reasoning for his fillipk vote was weird and suspicious
hector13 - Vote because of CW's bandwagoning and active lurking (1) *Apparently a pressure vote meant to incite CW to become more active*
fillipk - Vote because of CW's passivity, bandwagoning, and anti-town suggestions (2)
hector13 - Unvote because CW responded (1)
Myself - Vote because of CW's hesistant voting and overall passivity (2)
hector13 - Vote because of CW's bandwagoning, active lurking, & poorly reasoned plans (3)
FallacyofUrist - FOS for similar reasoning as previous voters; not a vote due to fillipk's lack of response
Analysis:
6 of 9 players were voting for someone by Day 1's end.
Myself: Voted on 3 of 4 wagons. First one on the fillipk wagon and the second SaberToothTiger wagon. Lynched Chromatic Wasp.
hector13: Voted on 3 of 4 wagons. First one on the first SabertoothTiger wagon and the Chromatic Wasp wagon. Lynched Chromatic Wasp.
fillipk: Voted on 2 of 4 wagons. Had a wagon against him. Lynched Chromatic Wasp.
FallacyofUrist: Voted on 2 of 4 wagons. Was the 4th vote on fillipk wagon before it died down. Was voting for fillipk ay Day's end.
flabort: Voted on 1 of 4 wagons. Was the 3rd vote on the second SabertoothTiger wagon before I switched wagons. Was voting for SabertoothTiger by Day's end. Voted only once during Day 1.
SabertoothTiger: Voted on 1 of 4 wagons. Had 2 wagons against him. Voted only once during Day 1. Was not voting by Day's end.
tntey / OSG : Inactive during Day 1.
TheDarkStar: Dead via NK.
Chromatic Wasp: Had a wagon against him. Dead via lynching.
If I got some details wrong, feel free to let me know.
PPE:
PPE: and of those known roles, two are dead. One by our hands, one by the hands of your third known one. I would ask your opinion of those unknown roles and how many you'd guess are vanilla, but that would be fishing which we all know is frowned upon. So as to your answer to Hector, what makes you think that an SK is unlikely to be convertible? Why wouldn't a town vigilante be nonconvertible if you think an SK wouldn't be?
Primarily because of what the
Serial Killer page on the Mafiascum wiki says. According to that page, Serial Killers are often given an extra advantage to help survive against 2 other factions. Even if the SK is unconvertible, the cult might be able to identify him after a failed convert and rally against him to get him lynched the next day, so it wouldn't be too big of an advantage for the SK.
Vigilantes are aligned with the town, so giving them conversion-immunity would make it nearly impossible for the cult to stop the Vig if he claims early enough and the town decides to never lynch him. Cult would have to gain a majority before they'd be able to stop him.