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[Arcvasti]

Today I learned the IE book is even better than I previously thought. How did I learn this, you ask? I watched a better player play.

And by play I mean utterly abuse Summon Ice Beast to get a rather pathetic felid all the way to Shoals. And then I tried it myself.

Yeah, I've done that before with a Felid Summoner. I eventually died to an Orb Spider because my Summon Butterflies summoned butterflies literally everywhere EXCEPT in front of the Orb of Destruction hurtling towards me.

Dear god my HEFE is getting ridiculous. Due to a lucky randart ring[+5 Int & Wiz, amongst other things], I can cast Fire Storm and Tornado at 1% failure chance and zero hunger cost. I have no rMut though, which drove me thirteen levels into a Ziggurat before I gave up after a mummy level nearly killed me. There's still an unopened trove sitting around, but it requires ALL my piety. Current plan is clear Zot[I have a decent amount of cure mutation potions], open trove, convert to TSO and do Crypt. If I STILL don't have rMut by then, I might just get a five or six rune victory instead of trying for a 15-runer. I did still almost die to a death cob right after entering Zot. My solution is to keep myself at Engorged the whole time I'm in Zot and to Tornado/Fire Storm any of the little fuckers that come within LOS.

Why not just Zin? It's even better than rMut, and depending on your invocations it's almost better for Tomb.

Maybe, I guess. The rNeg+++ isn't AS needed this game since I have a decent amount of it from randarts. I could start off with Zin now, after opening the trove, and maybe switch to TSO if I find a source of rMut later on.

[BaronMunchausen]

Spectated a bot game for a little while today, it was impressive. It cleared Vaults:5 in like, ninety seconds. The whole floor. Then it went to Slime and died to the Royal Jelly, so it looks like it still needs some perfecting.

Today I learned the IE book is even better than I previously thought. How did I learn this, you ask? I watched a better player play.

And by play I mean utterly abuse Summon Ice Beast to get a rather pathetic felid all the way to Shoals. And then I tried it myself.

Use Ice Beasts, people-not-using-ice-beasts. Don't be like me before.

That is all.

edit : Also someone kill Tiamat please it's driving me insane

Ice beasts are just the best early-mid game summon. They destroy the Lair; poison resistance and reptile-slowing melee go together really well against nasties like spiny frogs and black mambas. PCs who know the big AOE ice and poison spells can use them without fear of hurting friendly ice beasts as well.
My IEs never learn condensation shield, though. It seems really underwhelming for a level 4 spell. For some reason I like Ozo's armor though.

Dear god my HEFE is getting ridiculous. Due to a lucky randart ring[+5 Int & Wiz, amongst other things], I can cast Fire Storm and Tornado at 1% failure chance and zero hunger cost. I have no rMut though, which drove me thirteen levels into a Ziggurat before I gave up after a mummy level nearly killed me. There's still an unopened trove sitting around, but it requires ALL my piety. Current plan is clear Zot[I have a decent amount of cure mutation potions], open trove, convert to TSO and do Crypt. If I STILL don't have rMut by then, I might just get a five or six rune victory instead of trying for a 15-runer. I did still almost die to a death cob right after entering Zot. My solution is to keep myself at Engorged the whole time I'm in Zot and to Tornado/Fire Storm any of the little fuckers that come within LOS.

Why not just Zin? It's even better than rMut, and depending on your invocations it's almost better for Tomb.

Maybe, I guess. The rNeg+++ isn't AS needed this game since I have a decent amount of it from randarts. I could start off with Zin now, after opening the trove, and maybe switch to TSO if I find a source of rMut later on.

Firestorm and tornado might be problematic with TSO if there are any distracted/disabled monsters in the way of your spells. That may be a bit of an edge case, though; it's not like you're stealthy with those spells.

Edit: love it when this happens:

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The helpless tengu reaver fails to defend itself.
You bite the tengu reaver, and draw its blood!
You feel slightly less thirsty.
You stick the tengu reaver like a pincushion!!!!!
You kill the tengu reaver!
The helpless tengu reaver fails to defend itself.
You bite the tengu reaver, and draw its blood!
You feel slightly less thirsty.
You skewer the tengu reaver like a kebab!!!!!
You kill the tengu reaver!
The helpless Sojobo fails to defend himself.
You bite Sojobo, and draw his blood! You feel slightly less thirsty.
You stick Sojobo like a pincushion!!!!!
You kill Sojobo!


[Arcvasti]

AAAAND there goes my HEFE. Vehumet murdered me with a LCS after a curse skull triple tormented me down to double digits. Zin didn't save me, the jerk. I should've just taken the Orb and won with four runes.

[ZeroGravitas]

AAAAND there goes my HEFE. Vehumet murdered me with a LCS after a curse skull triple tormented me down to double digits. Zin didn't save me, the jerk. I should've just taken the Orb and won with four runes.

Yikes. Such wrath.

[AlStar]

I must say, there's nothing quite as sweet as having Ru's power make a basilisk petrify itself. I can only imagine that this grows even more fun with enemies that have even more annoying abilities.

[vogonpoet]

... is it Crawl where you get bonuses to your stealth/sneaking if you hug a wall as you approach an enemy?

Nope. IIRC the level 50 thief class skill in ADOM was invisibility when next to a wall maybe? Other than that, no idea. Crawl walls do have an effect on sound propagation mind. Did your VpAs come across any hex spells? Its never too late to pick up confuse, which seriously, is probably a bit overpowered. Also passwall. Passwall is hilarious in Zot if you have a stealthy dude - cutting corners in particular is awesome.

Meanwhile, check out the gloves I found on D4, they are incredibly sexy:

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3018 | D:4      | Got a pair of spiked gloves
  3024 | D:4      | Identified the +4 pair of gloves of the Moneychanger {MP+9 Str-4 Int+10 SInv} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)
I also found gourmand on D2 I think it was, the robe of the Archmagi on D6, and thanks to a very obliging Vehumet, managed to *Enter* Lair with freezing cloud already castable.
So I was feeling pretty fucking worried, this is easily the best start I have ever had gear wise if not ever, then certainly in donkeys. So what does Crawl do? Dumps a vault on L1 with an Ice Dragon. An Ice smegging Dragon. On L1. I mean, ouch. We fought valiantly, and my Ice Beasts brought it into the red, but in the end I was forced to abandon the level... Of course, now I have Erica's flaming scimitar, and more to the point, lightning bolt, so hopefully I will be able to take it down on the way to Orc.

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17.0-24-gcfadda4 (console) character file.

vogonpoet the Nimble (High Elf Ice Elementalist)   Turns: 17294, Time: 01:51:15

Health: 95/95      AC: 25    Str:  4    XL:     13   Next: 36%
Magic:  42/45      EV: 23    Int: 34    God:    Vehumet [*****.]
Gold:   906        SH:  6    Dex: 21    Spells: 7 memorised, 5 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis +     z - staff of cold
rCold  + . .     Clarity  .     S - +2 robe {Archmagi}
rNeg   . . .     SustAt   .     C - +0 buckler
rPois  .         Gourm    +     P - +0 helmet (curse)
rElec  .         Spirit   .     F - +1 cloak {MR+}
rCorr  .         Warding  .     w - +4 pair of gloves of the Moneychanger {MP+9 Str-4 Int+10 SInv}
rMut   .         Stasis   .     E - +1 pair of boots
MR     ++...                    x - amulet of the gourmand
Stlth  +++.......               y - ring of magical power
                                r - +5 ring of dexterity

@: icy armour, very resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy
A: no striking features
a: Renounce Religion


You are on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Vehumet.
Vehumet is extremely pleased with you.
You are completely stuffed.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 17 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth and Volcano.

You have collected 1130 gold pieces.
You have spent 224 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 b - a +3 scimitar of flaming
 Q - a +2 long sword of electrocution
Missiles
 J - 4 poisoned tomahawks (quivered)
 U - 2 throwing nets
Armour
 w - the +4 pair of gloves of the Moneychanger (worn) {MP+9 Str-4 Int+10 SInv}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your strength (-4).
   It affects your intelligence (+10).
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
   It lets you see invisible.
 C - a +0 buckler (worn)
 E - a +1 pair of boots (worn)
 F - a +1 cloak of magic resistance (worn)
 P - a cursed +0 helmet (worn)
 S - a +2 robe of the Archmagi (worn)
Magical Staves
 d - an uncursed staff of conjuration
 z - an uncursed staff of cold (weapon)
Jewellery
 q - an uncursed ring of see invisible
 r - a +5 ring of dexterity (left hand)
 v - an uncursed ring of wizardry
 x - an amulet of the gourmand (around neck)
 y - a ring of magical power (right hand)
 Y - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
Wands
 p - a wand of digging (15)
 H - a wand of cold
 O - a wand of draining
 T - a wand of flame
 W - a wand of heal wounds (9)
Scrolls
 c - a scroll of enchant armour
 h - 11 scrolls of remove curse
 s - 2 scrolls of immolation
 t - a scroll labeled CIHETIANIU
 u - a scroll of fog
 B - 2 scrolls of fear
 K - a scroll labeled BEIT YMARCHI
 N - 3 scrolls of teleportation
 X - a scroll labeled AZXIKI HEOC
 Z - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
Potions
 i - a fizzy amethyst potion
 k - a potion of resistance
 m - 7 potions of heal wounds
 n - 4 potions of might
 o - 4 potions of haste
 A - a coppery potion
 D - 2 potions of berserk rage
 G - 6 potions of curing
 I - 4 potions of flight
 M - a potion of brilliance
Books
 e - a book of the Tempests   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Static Discharge             Conjuration/Air               3
    b - Lightning Bolt               Conjuration/Air               5
    c - Fireball                     Conjuration/Fire              5
    d - Tornado                      Air                           9
    e - Shatter                      Earth                         9
Miscellaneous
 g - a plain deck of cards
 j - a disc of storms
Comestibles
 a - 5 fruits
 f - 6 chunks of flesh
 l - 5 meat rations
 V - 6 beef jerkies


   Skills:
 - Level 11.0 Fighting
 - Level 5.0 Long Blades
 + Level 11.8 Dodging
 - Level 2.1 Stealth
 - Level 3.5 Shields
 - Level 9.0 Spellcasting
 - Level 5.4 Conjurations
 - Level 3.0 Summonings
 - Level 10.5 Ice Magic
 - Level 10.0 Air Magic


You have 5 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Freeze                Ice            ####         1%          1    None
b - Throw Frost           Conj/Ice       ######       1%          2    None
c - Freezing Cloud        Conj/Ice/Air   ########..   4%          6    #####..
d - Summon Ice Beast      Ice/Summ       #######.     1%          4    None
e - Throw Icicle          Conj/Ice       ########     1%          4    None
f - Lightning Bolt        Conj/Air       #######...   1%          5    ###....
z - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       #######.     1%          3    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (11/15)            Temple (1/1) D:5            Lair (5/8) D:11
  Snake (0/4) Lair:3          Orc (0/4) D:9         
 Swamp: Lair:3-6    Shoals: Lair:3-6   

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:5 [   D:6 *

Annotations:
D:10 Fannar

Message History

Unknown command.
There is a stone staircase leading up, spattered with blood here.
You see here an elephant corpse.
You see here a quarterstaff.
You see here a giant frog corpse.
You see here a giant frog corpse.
Your icy armour starts to melt.
Your icy armour evaporates.
Found a stone staircase leading down.
Found 8 gold pieces.
You now have 906 gold pieces (gained 8).
You see here 4 large rocks.
Casting: Throw Icicle
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
You feel a strong surge of power! A film of ice covers your body!
You are now empty-handed.
Wield which item (- for none, * to show all)? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
z - an uncursed staff of cold (weapon)
Char dumped successfully.
Save game and exit?

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There are no monsters in sight!

Seriously, I hope I don't screw this up, this dude is ridiculous.

edit: Ha ha ha ha! 

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The blast of lightning engulfs the ice dragon.
You kill the ice dragon!
Vehumet accepts your kill.
The blast of lightning engulfs your ball lightning.
Your ball lightning completely resists.
Your ball lightning explodes!
The blast of lightning engulfs you! You resist.
You see here an ice dragon corpse.
You butcher the ice dragon corpse.
l - 2 chunks of flesh
You see here an ice dragon hide.
I'm sorry Vehumet, what was that? You say I have a Staff of Air in my stash, and you would like to offer me Conjure Ball Lightning? Praise be unto thee and thankee very muchly.
/probably CBL is not the safest spell (NOISE! ELECTRICITY! NO CONTROL!) ever, but ha ha, its fun

[ZeroGravitas]

won a 13-rune OgAm of Zin.

would have had 15 but i fucking ran out of food. i blame zin. and possibly my own inefficient and lazy play.

http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/grisamentum/morgue-grisamentum-20151117-212816.txt

[Drakale]

Congrats!
+12 gold d. armor? nice!

[ZeroGravitas]

Great job! I wish I'd seen it - but then again, given how my spectating you worked out last time, maybe it's best I didn't

oh god, haha, which one did you see? the last few days i had two really dumb deaths on promising characters while in Elf.

Congrats!
+12 gold d. armor? nice!

had to make it manually, although it was literally the only thing i could used enchant armor scrolls on. i had been really scared midgame because of the lack of decent armor - i tried acquirement and got quicksilver dragon armour, which lasted me for a bit.

[Graven]

Well done, Zero! We have an Ogre win now, we're legit

I probably won't have time for more than a 5-rune win, if that. I seem to basically be spending each evening splatting the promising character from the previous one. I may have to settle for a lesser win.

Actually I just noticed the tourney ends Sunday, not Friday as I had, for some reason, thought. This may give me time for a 5-rune win and a 15-rune one splatting a few more hundred octopodes in lair.

[vogonpoet]

Covenant, you have any summoning spells available for Zot maybe? You haven't cleared Depths yet right? Or finished Crypt (a pain for your character right now mind)? So you have a fair amount of XP to spend on maybe Shadow Creatures + random other awesome summoning spell?

/or does new Nemelex provide plenty of summons, in which case no worries???

[ZeroGravitas]

Well done, Zero! We have an Ogre win now, we're legit

hopefully nobody looks too closely:

63222 | Depths:2 | HP: 1/236 [tengu reaver/battleaxe of electrocution (12)]
 63222 | Depths:2 | Zin protects you from harm!
 63222 | Depths:2 | Zin protects you from harm!
 63222 | Depths:2 | Zin protects you from harm!
 63223 | Bazaar   | Entered a bazaar

definitely should have died there.

[Graven]

My current Octopode has the following at Xlvl 9:
+7 total evasion from rings
+10 randart trident of Venom
Book that contains Statue Form (I'm a Cheibro)
Potion of experience

If I die without getting Statue Form operational, I will weep, and sob, and listen to Linkin Park

Edit : unexpectedly two-shotted by maud. Linkin park here I come

[ZeroGravitas]

Great job! I wish I'd seen it - but then again, given how my spectating you worked out last time, maybe it's best I didn't

oh god, haha, which one did you see? the last few days i had two really dumb deaths on promising characters while in Elf.

I made a post earlier in the thread about having just finished my game, and I saw you were playing so I started spectating you. Literally 20 seconds later you died in Elf after teleporting to a place with a dancing weapon or two and a few knights. It's obvious that my spectating people is some kind of kiss of death... Although, you *did* have a blink scroll you didn't use

oh yeah, that was a stupid, stupid death. when i'm tired i fail to evaluate options sufficiently. the game always lulls me into tabbing too much.

[vogonpoet]

Glad to be of some use - I used shadow creatures are fair bit with my SpEn, and I was very pleasantly surprised - its already pretty good in the Lair rune branches (ended up with titanic slimes in Slime for instance), awesome in the Depths, and occasionally hilarious in Zot (gotta love those moths of wrath).