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[Empiricist]

or is it a melee attack

Probably be melee, but there is the chance it could be magical as well.

[Sl4cker]

so is 1500 damage enough to cripple a boss yet or

[Empiricist]

With Jolly Cooperation, average damage is 350, not 500. Also known as  "probably still too damn high".

[Sl4cker]

but
level 6/2 is 3
average of 2
basic maths

[Empiricist]

That raises the dice size, not the average, I think.

Oops misread the Perk. Okay yes, +3 bonus to all rolls. Average damage of 500. Jesus Christ.

[Twinwolf]

Everything about Red Carnival

What the actual fuck. Seriously. It'd bring the final boss of my plot down to what, 2/3 health if it rolled well. And there's nothing saying it can't be spammed. And the puppets aren't even a factor because transformation.

[BlitzDungeoneer]

That raises the dice size, not the average, I think.

Oops misread the Perk. Okay yes, +3 bonus to all rolls. Average damage of 500. Jesus Christ.

why the hell do you think I'm asking for a ruling on this shit

[Empiricist]

2/3 health if it rolled well

Is that before or after Jolly Cooperation and Deep Pass?

why the hell do you think I'm asking for a ruling on this shit

To be fair, even 350 damage is enough to warrant immediate cause for concern and requests for nerfing.

Well, whatever argument I've ever put forth towards standardization in lieu of just having a bunch of unique formulas utterly pales in comparison to this, well, abomination.

[Twinwolf]

After.

Anyway, let me just say, if Shiro tries to use it on any of my plots they're getting plotkilled, or at least knocked out for the rest of combat and every combat they try it.

[Sl4cker]

damn, twin's final boss has over 1500 hp

[Empiricist]

That's a Turn 1 one-shot against what I can only presume to be most, if not all, bosses if Aesford and Inomi both Deep Pass then. Good Lord.

damn, twin's final boss has over 1500 hp

It has to. Twin even mentioned earlier that a lot of "Hit Harder" Actions deal high damage on their own and can be spammed every single turn.

[Twinwolf]

By roll well I meant "above average". A max roll would bring it below half.

[Empiricist]

This is slowly turning into a /tg/ greentext. All that's missing is a catastrophe.

[IamanElfCollaborator]

IIRC Seahawk Paladin can't be entered on Turn 1. It, like Mankai, is Turn 5.

[Twinwolf]

You know, since the action itself is not a puppet-based action, it can be spammed. From turn 1.