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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17535 on: April 27, 2016, 08:12:38 pm »

Yes, but it's not particularly germaine.
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« Reply #17536 on: April 27, 2016, 08:13:03 pm »

Yes, but it's not particularly germaine.
...Opcodes are a language too.
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« Reply #17537 on: April 27, 2016, 08:14:23 pm »

Not only is it a different matter, it's still not germaine, as it was basic system constraints at the most core of levels being discussed, not opcodes.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17538 on: April 27, 2016, 08:15:42 pm »

Yes, but if the languages are being translated, that doesn't matter.  That is to say, if you've got an English-to-Xcdgfgggfgl translation spell, and Xcdgfgggfl is scent-based, it doesn't matter because the translation has been done.

Also *germane
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« Reply #17539 on: April 27, 2016, 08:18:23 pm »

No, I mean, 6AR is speaking English.  I may have phrased that exceedingly poorly, but...The point stands.
And none of the human-like characters have infected each other with diseases that don't exist in each other's worlds and which other people have dubious immunities to.

And they are all of similar usefulness and capabilities even though their capabilities vary to the point that some of them can cause reality to breakdown around them, while others only have attrition to their name.

Might not be the best idea to ground your argument on GM-fiats is what I'm trying to say.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17540 on: April 27, 2016, 08:18:46 pm »

Pattern analysis is actually a core piece of AI, the ability to recognize the existence of patterns and to assign labels to inputs. Of course, this does not actually solve the issues of compatibility. Being able to recognize the existence of a pattern is not the same thing as knowing its contents, or being able to interface with it in the first place. It doesn't allow something to fix issues as potentially deep as binary non-binary differences.
citation: humans are capable of pattern analysis, but are still shit at programming
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17541 on: April 27, 2016, 08:19:25 pm »

I will have you know your points are most DEFINITELY not Germaine Greer.

That said, the translation thing is not only... shockingly unsaid, really, it hasn't been stated that it covers code languages. And, yes, this has to be stated.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17542 on: April 27, 2016, 08:21:16 pm »

Yes, it has to be stated, but I'm asking for that statement.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17543 on: April 27, 2016, 08:22:16 pm »

The GMs have already told you no on the searching, as I recall.
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« Reply #17544 on: April 27, 2016, 08:22:59 pm »

And I brought something else to their attention that wasn't considered the first time.
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« Reply #17545 on: April 27, 2016, 08:23:33 pm »

There are likely limitations on what languages are converted. Otherwise people would start interrogating random woodland creatures for information and all our tanks will forego their measly offensive stats to just run up to foes and scream "GARSTORPIT! GARSTORPIT! GARSTORPIT!".
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17546 on: April 27, 2016, 08:25:05 pm »

No, 6AR was not given a communication device... Nor any kind of translator. It's Gm-Fiat that everyone can understand everyone else because that shit is not relevant to the game. Like, Seriously who cares for such a little detail?
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17547 on: April 27, 2016, 08:26:42 pm »

Elf didn't say no for in-game logic reasons primarily, Elf said no because the ploy is a mystery and because he is tired of you using 6AR to gain free information.
Besides, even with translation, 6AR wouldn't have a device to connect with out networks anyway, or any open networks.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17548 on: April 27, 2016, 08:30:56 pm »

No, 6AR was not given a communication device... Nor any kind of translator. It's Gm-Fiat that everyone can understand everyone else because that shit is not relevant to the game. Like, Seriously who cares for such a little detail?
Actually, it's pretty relevant.

I do, because it directly impacts whether 6AR can do stuff, and whether several party members can communicate with the others outside of pantomime.

Elf didn't say no for in-game logic reasons primarily, Elf said no because the ploy is a mystery and because he is tired of you using 6AR to gain free information.
Besides, even with translation, 6AR wouldn't have a device to connect with out networks anyway, or any open networks.
If your mystery is unraveled by a Google search, it is not a very well-hidden mystery.

Alanis would have done the exact same thing.  In fact, any character I am running that has a mobile device is probably going to search things.  Just want to make that clear.

They have a radio transmitter.  Also, cell networks.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17549 on: April 27, 2016, 08:32:42 pm »

"If your lack of information is unraveled by accessing information, it is not a very good mystery."

Also, radio transmitters are not internet connections, and I doubt the Trade Federation has AT&T in it.
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