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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #15150 on: April 10, 2016, 12:06:08 am »

Say that to Skippy's face, asshole.

...I guess I have to accept this.

Still not accepting the bit about him apparently being able to detect a witch inside her, particularly given the fact that there's another magical girl ally who's been around longer.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #15151 on: April 10, 2016, 12:08:25 am »

It... doesn't make much sense as he stated it anyway. The circumstances behind Soul Gems are evil, but they themselves are not inherently so at all. Even the corruption in them is sorrow, not evil.
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« Reply #15152 on: April 10, 2016, 12:09:29 am »

That was my thinking as well.

Unless he's referring to the Wide Eyed Idealist as evil, which is a bit of a stretch...
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #15153 on: April 10, 2016, 12:14:40 am »

To Jedi, emotion is evil.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #15154 on: April 10, 2016, 12:15:37 am »

I doubt TBF intended it that way but that is a brilliantly good point.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #15155 on: April 10, 2016, 12:16:15 am »

Fair, but nothing in Star Wars indicates that just being emotional is enough to make a Jedi think there's something seriously darkside-y going on.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #15156 on: April 10, 2016, 12:18:40 am »

Grief-->(intermediate steps)-->The Dark Side.

What powers a Magical Girl?  Grief.

Also, Kyuubey's intent in the Soul Gems is strong.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #15157 on: April 10, 2016, 12:22:37 am »

1. 6AR has no reason to know anything about magical girls.
2. His only source of information on magical girls is Victoria. Unless I missed something, his evil sense or whatever didn't go off for her.
3. Magical girls are powered by hope, and to a certain extent some nebulous energy stemming from how important they are in the world. Running out of this is what causes them to transform into witches. (Overuse of magic or falling into despair both.) "Grief Seed" is a name.
4. Being emotional, as stated earlier, isn't enough to have a Jedi go "yo that's evil." Powerful negative emotions like abject sorrow, rage, etc might, but if emotional people triggered that sort of sense a Jedi would go batshit insane from picking up the emotions of everyone they walked past on the street as evil.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #15158 on: April 10, 2016, 12:24:09 am »

The first and second points I can stomach, but I'm pretty entirely sure that's not how it works. Kyubey is a completely emotionless and amoral creature -- how would it possibly bequeath something onto an object? Heck, if intent and emotions flowed through objects, Anakin's lightsaber would probably have absolutely wrecked Luke, what with the "murder weapon to kill hundreds of people" thing.

That and how do you know if Haruka even has grief in her Soul Gem yet, or hasn't purged it with Grief Seeds? You're making assumptions about her character and directly translating them into IC fact.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #15159 on: April 10, 2016, 12:26:39 am »

I don't even know.  Blehhh.  It's 1:30 in the morning, I'll try and respond when it's not 1:30 in the morning.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #15160 on: April 10, 2016, 12:27:38 am »

I mean, if magical girls were actually powered by grief, the plot of PMMM would have been vastly different.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #15161 on: April 10, 2016, 12:28:18 am »

Oh, TBF is using meta knowledge in character when there's no reason for it. What a surprise.
JK but really, you need to work on that.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #15162 on: April 10, 2016, 12:29:36 am »

Is anyone upset at me for magically teleporting into the gun shop? I forgot they left the ship, and didn't want to make it awkward.

I feel really bad about it now.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #15163 on: April 10, 2016, 12:29:56 am »

The gun range, and no, it's k.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #15164 on: April 10, 2016, 12:36:19 am »

I mean, if magical girls were actually powered by grief, the plot of PMMM would have been vastly different.
No, they're powered by hope, but they invite in grief when they use their powers.

Thus, the dark side.

If that's not really sensical, that's my fault entirely, but you see what I'm getting at?
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