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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #11445 on: March 12, 2016, 07:39:26 am »

because you did

No, I mean it isn't a matter of whether or not they're fair, because those two are definitely fair, the issue is that Erika's perk is completely and utterly underpowered. It's a perk, which is only gained once every five levels, and it gives her at most a +2 to single stat.

You might want to start setting guidelines just so that everyone knows where to aim in terms of power when making new perks. Because it was admittedly rather difficult figuring out whether or not perks and actions were under or overpowered.
To be fair, we as the GMs had a problem with that. Over the term break, I'll probably work on revamping the OP so that it's a lot clearer.

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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #11446 on: March 12, 2016, 07:41:21 am »

I guess what I'm trying to say is that whenever something seems overpowered, everyone seems to do a pretty good job most of the time pointing it out. But the issue is that doesn't really happen if something is underpowered.

My suggestion, and this is really just as an outsider who's only seen one boss battle in total, would be to tell people to set bonuses in terms of percentages, level or stats, rather than being fixed. Or alternatively, to make them grant a single, abnormally powerful passive that may be leveled up like any other action. Because otherwise those fixed bonuses are going to become obsolete eventually, which isn't really something you want to happen to something you only get once every five levels.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #11447 on: March 12, 2016, 07:41:44 am »

@Elf:What was the conclusion, then?
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #11448 on: March 12, 2016, 07:44:18 am »

Unconsciousness: Three turns, then you die. If you hit 0 HP, unless you're one of the lucky few like Mio who has a specific perk to deal with what happens when you hit 0 HP, you're out of the fight, healing or not. Not dead, but definitely out of the fight.

And writing that down so I can put that in the revamped OP.

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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #11449 on: March 12, 2016, 07:46:18 am »

Yes, and the problem was "You're out of the fight, healing or not" vs. nobody knew about that beforehand and could not plan for battle-ressing people.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #11450 on: March 12, 2016, 07:47:52 am »

Which we said 'wasn't a problem, period'. We can keep disputing it or we can stick to what we already said was going to happen, which was 'bar rare revival items or perks, unconscious means unconscious'.

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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #11451 on: March 12, 2016, 07:50:27 am »

Fine, but I'm getting smelling salts.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #11452 on: March 12, 2016, 07:51:56 am »

Oh, that argument. What's the problem with that? I mean it's a game styled after turn-based RPGs where you generally can't revive characters just through healing. And as Elf mentioned there are revive-spell equivalents. Such as ENG's nano-revive.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #11453 on: March 12, 2016, 07:56:45 am »

Also, one of Sandra's skills literally just makes her better at cooking, cleaning and chemicals.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #11454 on: March 12, 2016, 08:01:15 am »

Chlorine trifluoride is a chemical. So are acids. And the sedatives she can drug people with. And technically, surviving against big angry creatures is part of wilderness survival :P
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #11455 on: March 12, 2016, 08:11:03 am »

Well now I'm going to have to completely re-stat my plot's boss.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #11456 on: March 12, 2016, 08:12:12 am »

Give them an extra perk that allows them to invest stat points into that for a luck-like effect.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #11457 on: March 12, 2016, 08:23:09 am »

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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #11458 on: March 12, 2016, 08:23:54 am »

i'll handle that shit after the timeskip
speaking of which
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #11459 on: March 12, 2016, 09:46:27 am »

Deleted the luck stat from the Master Sheet.

Also; secondary characters when
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