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[Arx]

Rathgar raids everyone, as far as I know.

[Xardalas]

And there goes that settlement. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

[DoomOnion]

Since the game has been up for a while, assume that nothing is independent. Even if it's systematically independent, someone somewhere is going to come by and say that the land is rightfully theirs, and they probably have a bigger army/political strength than you do. The game's called Might and Fealty for a reason, and it'd be a good idea to start by joining a sovereign state. Ascalon seems to be in need of knights/lords, and I heard Hawks are recruiting as well.

[Xardalas]

Since the game has been up for a while, assume that nothing is independent. Even if it's systematically independent, someone somewhere is going to come by and say that the land is rightfully theirs, and they probably have a bigger army/political strength than you do. The game's called Might and Fealty for a reason, and it'd be a good idea to start by joining a sovereign state. Ascalon seems to be in need of knights/lords, and I heard Hawks are recruiting as well.

Pass. Joining a large realm is no fun at all. Where as, trying to be entirely independent from everyone else is. Not a chance in hell of it actually working of course, but it should keep me amused for a while.

[Arx]

Since the game has been up for a while, assume that nothing is independent. Even if it's systematically independent, someone somewhere is going to come by and say that the land is rightfully theirs, and they probably have a bigger army/political strength than you do. The game's called Might and Fealty for a reason, and it'd be a good idea to start by joining a sovereign state. Ascalon seems to be in need of knights/lords, and I heard Hawks are recruiting as well.

Pass. Joining a large realm is no fun at all. Where as, trying to be entirely independent from someone else is.

I'm also kicking around looking for an independent settlement with one of my characters. There might be some way we can combine forces, maybe also with werty and Zangi.

[Xardalas]

Not likely to happen honestly. As what's his face said, pretty much every settlement has been claimed. Your best bet is to just troll up the map and look for characters that haven't been played in a while and take theirs. You won't hold them for long of course, because naturally, there just isn't any way for a single lord to resist a empire. Even several single lords banding together would have issues because all of our troop recruitment would have to come from a single settlement.

There are mercs of course, but to get the gold for that you would need to loot the settlements of others, which can work while your alone. I do it often enough, the trouble is finding a damn town that grants everyone access to recruit mercs.

[DoomOnion]

It's not really much of an 'empire' as you think, the concept of a large empire with imperial authority does not exist in this era. It's more close to Holy Roman Empire. Everyone is always scheming and up to something, and you don't owe a single shit to the top liege, whoever your liege lord is, that person is the only one you owe something to and are responsible for your protection.

Join a duke, stick around and act cool, get a couple more estates, and eventually you might even be able to break off to be a duke of your own, politics is the other half of the game, not just sending men around. At least that's the vibe I'm getting.

Edit: or you could do what Xard said with a bit more discretion. Claim an estate where the player does not look very important/hasn't been playing for a while, and send a couple of letters to the right people. That might work if you claim the border regions where nobody really wants to be around.

[Ghazkull]

Or join Rathgar, they are basically "Here have some men and some land and go troll those southerners once you feel like it." which is nice

[SaintofWar]

What the empire was some time ago is not what it is now. It is vastly different. The lower level vassals don't really get much interaction with the top level liege- but each duke is very much loyal to the death, as far as I understood.

You might actually have some fun in the Empire- but I'd take my chances with Rathgar. They have tons of land, and some they don't even want, that they could maybe give away.

[Ehndras]

Sweet, I received the blessing of Triarch Pius I of the Holy Trinitary State, the official major religion of M&F, in establishing the Black Order. Success!

His message inspired me to write out an actual set of laws for the Order. I'll post it here, for those who care for such things.

Spoiler: Disclaimer (click to show/hide)

Re-wrote and restructured parts of things I've written before, to whoever the hell it is I sent them to. Unfortunately, I've been foolish enough to expend copious amounts of time typing out a vast wealth of information to a single person, here and there. I doom myself to unnecessary effort by leaving out such messages from the regular communication of my Void and Order-based characters. Unfortunately, there is no great over-arching forum for the whole of Mankind - and if there were, I'm sure a number of people would be pissed off by such massive walls of text. After all, you can't appease everyone. As this thread exists to share my own lore, I have seen fit to share some of these texts with each of you. That you may read it, study the concepts within, and inform me whether or not all is just and good. Whether I should expunge it from record, or save it in some form. Thank you for your incredible patience in tolerating my frivolous mania. I do what I do because I love it - this is my passion, my therapy, my prayer. Godspeed and goodnight to you all. Being 6 in the morning - local time - I should probably attempt to accomplish some small measure of sleep, lest my battered mind grow weak and weary. Cheers, folks.

Also, the Void has officially declared war upon the Order - going so far as to sent one of their agents to the tournament of Ascalon, bearing threats and disease unto all assembled. The shit just hit the fan, folks, and the fun is about to begin! I'm going to be leading the combined forces of all Order-aligned realms against the Void in a grand crusade, while leading the Void's forces in a great and terrible expansion unto the cities of Man - that such diametrically-opposing forces of the Great Good and Darkest Evil may clash upon the field of battle, sundering the world betwixt the onslaught of warcries - the seas of blood run rampant - the call of highest Gods both dark and light, in the face of everything we hold dear. The fate of the world is at stake... Which side will you join? (Fuck it, join both! More fun that way!)

Behold!

Spoiler: The Thirteen Sacred Laws of the Divine Dictum of the Order of the Black Star Ascendant (click to show/hide)

"The Black Order, its true name the Order of the Black Star Ascendant, seeks to combat any and all agents of the dark god Tymetras. The evil curse of the western isles, the wall of darkness that blockades the northwestern reaches, the Voidspawn... They are all related to the prophecy of the Dark Star's Rising - a cataclysmic event my people call the Final Sundering. The Dark Star may be Tymetras Himself - given physical form by the corruption of Man's divine spirit... Or one of the unnamed dark gods, vile kin of Tymetras, who inhabited the Void of Nothingness before our Gods sought to birth the divine light of creation - this light the physical manifestation of the sacred Starsong of Au'ruin worship. The Edicts of the Black Order's Divine Dictum - the holy mandate of Mankind's defense, entrusted to the first Martyrs of Vanguard before the onset of the God Wars - are as follow. May this shed some light upon the Order's purpose, its necessities, and what it has to offer. There are eight such Edicts which stand beneath the Five Pillars of Light - numbering Thirteen in all. These are the core laws of the Order and the Starsong faith of the Au'ruin - a direct descendant and holy branch of the Order. In and of itself, the Black Order is not a religious institution - as per our laws and the teaching of Starsong, we reserve our members' right to worship as they please. Those who choose to follow Starsong do so at their own discretion."

1.The First Edict - "Heed always the commandments of thy righteous Gods - by their many names and faces - for all Men follow in the footsteps of the Divine."

1.= The First Edict teaches that we should not judge our neighbors for their faith, so long as their teachings are righteous and just. Though each culture has seen the Face of God in different shape, bearing names we may not recognize, all Men follow the same holy laws at heart. Thus, we must respect each other in the interest of mutual understanding and fraternity.

2.The Second Edict - "Harm not thy fellow Man - lest he enact the will of Tymetras."

2.= The Second Edict teaches that we should not seek to attack, defame, or undermine our fellow Man, as such acts obstruct our communal ability to withstand the temptations of the agents of Chaos. In severance of fraternity, all Men are weakened - entrenching evil within each other's heart.

3.The Third Edict - "Seek always the brotherhood of Man, that First and Second One stand united in the face of Chaos and Disorder."

3.= The Third Edict teaches brotherhood by association - preaching the union of diverse cultures, languages, and faiths. Mankind is empowered by fraternity, an amalgam of divergent paths which lead us down similar crossroads: whose destination lies within the bosom of our righteous Gods. If we avow diversity to breed resentment, Mankind shall fall in unison.

4.The Fourth Edict - "Honor thy Mother and Father, for in their union the seed of life did scatter - the spirit of Man set forth in the image of our Gods."

= The Fourth Edict teaches us to respect the progenitors of our dynasties, the histories of our people, and the lineage of our kind - honoring the trials they underwent to deliver us unto the present. Without their willing sacrifice, our kind would be lost to the ravages of time.
5.The Fifth Edict - "Aid thy neighbor, for in charity we echo the righteousness of the divine."

5.= The Fifth Edict teaches us to protect our fellow Man, relinquishing the temptation of greed in light of fellowship. Self-indulgence serves only to divide the many faces of Mankind - sundering the nexus of our unity in favor of the ego. In serving oneself, brotherhood becomes inconceivable. Without division of labor and possession, resentment is birthed in the shadow of envy.

6.The Sixth Edict - "Plunder not the virtue of thy labor, for in just service Humanity shall reap its eminent harvest."

6.= The Sixth Edict teaches us to seek possession of only that which is the product of our singular effort - for the act of theft is a breach of the sacred covenant between God and Man. By the vigors imbued within us in the breath of the divine, we have each been afforded the means to reap the virtues of the earth without need of violence and covetry. Thus, banditry - the act of theft - begets the greatest insult to the righteousness of Man.

7.The Seventh Edict - "The union of woman and man echoes the breath of the divine - bearing forth the seed of creation in the image of thy Gods."

7.= The Seventh Edict teaches us to honor the sanctity of marriage, for in bearing child we re-enact the First Breath that gave spawn to Humanity. Furthermore, it demands the respect of familial union, without which our kind would face extinction. To dishonor one's mother and father, or defile the virtue of another man's wife, is to spit in the face of the Gods that bore the seeds of our creation.

8.The Eight Edict - "Honor thy impermanence, for our time upon this earth is fleeting."

8.= The Eight Edict teaches us to commemorate our transient state - as all that lives shall be unmade. In death we return to the bosom of our Gods, to be reshaped or reborn by the virtue of their Will. We must not fear death, for it is the just sign that we have fulfilled our commitment to the Gods and Mankind. In death we are released from our sacred duties, insofar as we have served them righteously. Thus, we consummate divine will in serving the limited breadth of fleeting spirit - in the pursuit of justice, honor, duty, and righteousness. Thus, just sacrifice in the pursuit of righteous honor shall return us to the heavenly firmament - where the spirit of Man shall eternal reign beside the Voice of God's Creation.

9.The First Pillar of Light - "Oppose Chaos with every breath - Disorder with every action."

9.= The First Pillar of Light invokes Mankind's sacred oath to combat evil in every form. To shed complacency and fear in service of the divine. To safeguard Humanity against those who welcome its extinction.

10.The Second Pillar of Light - "Embody Justice in thy actions - Dignity in thy stance."

10.= The Second Pillar of Light invokes Mankind's sacred oath to heed virtue in all things Human. To treasure the gift of our creation, for we were born in the image of our Gods. To stand tall in the face of adversity.

11.The Third Pillar of Light - "Seek Purity in all things - Innocence where it stands."

11.= The Third Pillar of Light invokes Mankind's sacred oath to uphold the sanctity of all that is Good. To protect the innocent from the onslaught of corruption. To elevate our brothers and children - that they may be elevated to heights beyond their wildest dreams.

12.The Fourth Pillar of Light - "Safeguard the Sanctity of thy splendor - the Majesty of Heaven's Gate."

12.= The Fourth Pillar of Light invokes Mankind's sacred oath to recognize the greatness in every Man. To unleash the potential of our companions. To respect those who reign above, and serve beneath - as all Men are equal in the eyes of God.

13.The Fifth Pillar of Light - "In Diligence Mankind shall stand erect - the Kingdom of God in thy halls resplendent."

13.= The Fifth Pillar of Light invokes Mankind's sacred oath to enact the holy Edicts sworn unto the First Men and their myriad descendants. To honor the Gods by virtue of our existence. To remember that we, too, share common origin in the breath of which divinity took shape.

"Together, the Thirteen Sacred Laws of the Divine Dictum of the Black Order outline the virtuous manner in which all endeavors must be forged. They provide the basic code of conduct all men must enact - from the lowliest servant to the highest of Kings. They embody the sacred promise made by the first Martyrs of Vanguard, echoing the innocence and virtuousness of the First Men unto which the Gods whispered mind and spirit. These are the laws that govern the Black Order - providing the foundation over which we safeguard the solace of Man. Without such laws, our First One creed would fall to the temptations of Chaos. We would drown in the black march of the ever-flowing tide of darkness. Heedless of the virtuous purpose of Man, we would welcome with open arms the corruption of all that we hold dear - ushering in the mechanism of our extinction."

Plus, my most recent messages to the "Pope."

Spoiler: First Contact with Triarch Pius I of the Holy Trinitary State - i.e. the Pope & Vatican (click to show/hide)

by Lysandra Gault-Moore of the Black Order on 7-37-3 (October 28, 2015 09:27)

Your Holiness, Pius I,

I come to you as newly-elected Matriarch of the ancient Order of the Black Star Ascendant - in service to the preservation and sanctity of the myriad nations that breathe life unto this continent. You have more than likely heard mention of our Order in ancient texts, having served beside your Holy Trinity in the crusades of ages past. If you would be willing to grant me the honor, I would meet with you and discuss the steps we must take to honor the Gods in halting the expansion of the unholy Void's daemon influence. Even now, Voidspawn crawl through forest and plain, bearing the fruit of infection for all they encounter. The rate of infection has begun to spiral upward as each Void-blighted settlement becomes the new epicenter of death and disease. The Voidspawn are becoming more organized, more advanced, more intelligent, more cohesive - likely under the command of one or more Voidwalkers. If there truly is a Voidwalker, then the invasion has only just begun. The entire northern Forsaken Zone, the full breadth of this continent's Void plague will prove to be nothing more than a few forward outposts - scouts for the flood of undead thralls and their Masters to come. I would gladly sacrifice my life to halt this chain of events from ever occurring - as would every single servant of the Black Order. We have dedicated our lives in service of the Gods' divine charge - to protect Mankind against the merciless assault of the Dark Gods of the Void - to halt their expansion and banish them back to the shadows which birthed them.

As in times of old, the Black Order held strategic territories in-trust - outposts and strongholds through which the Vanguard would strike at the heart of darkness. Beacons of light and hope in an ocean of shadows and deceit, from which we watched over the unity of Man. From these strongholds we armed the populace, trained them to fight the vile Spawn, sheltered the victims of conquest, watched over neighboring nations' borders, and safeguarded the peace between partner realms. The ancient treaties that grant the Order its rights existed prior to the God Wars - it was once called a divine dictum: God's Law upon Man. A divine order to uphold their vision and combat the Void by any means necessary. An Order against all Darkness. That is our charge.

By this divine dictum, I was chosen as Matriarch and Speaker of the Order of the Black Star - to bring the holy fire of retribution against all agents of the Dark Star's Rising. Under the Ordos Tenebrae, I may call upon nations to donate or relinquish the necessary tools with which to fight the Void. As it falls beneath the laws of the Order, I may conscript prisoners and free-men, even traitors due for execution and turn them into Vanguard - that their lives may serve a greater purpose in death. By divine right, I may order the death of those whose actions hold the potential to greatly damage the collective struggle of Humanity against the darkest of tides. I may call for the creation or dissolution of alliances and realms in the fact of the Void's advance. So you see: by the power of this divine dictum, I have been chosen to hold incredible power in-trust, and as such, must watch my words and actions carefully. I cannot allow myself to sacrifice the virtues of justice, honesty, diligence, and empathy for the sake of my or any other's ambitions. I live to serve the Order, which lives to serve Mankind, which lives to serve its Gods - whether we agree with each others' methods or not. Whether some Men wish it or not. It is our charge to sacrifice ourselves to the good of Collective Man - despite the consequences. I will likely never marry, as I doubt any man would marry a woman such as I. I will never watch my own seed flower in womb, my children grown to fight for virtue and justice - and the continuation of my bloodline. I will never be trusted and loved as others do - I will always be an outsider, and by the will of the Gods, I accept that.

It is not in the Order's best interest to harm our own. I may be required do so if it is necessary to Mankind's survival against the Void, but then and only then - when our numbers have dwindled, empires have fallen, and our people's survival 0r extinction may be determined by the actions of a single man. The Order has built empires, and it has demolished them... But such a path shall inevitably lead to distrust and strife, which the Void will swiftly and easily take advantage of. I refuse to echo the mistakes of those who came before me. I will not be a tyrant in the name of the Black Order. Not until it is too late to bring salvation through peaceful means.

If a man must die to save a thousand, then so be it - but I will not make such a judgement call without ample reason, and lack of alternative. The good of the many must always supersede the good of one, but the value of a life must not be diminished in the grand scope of our vision. Without an amalgam of individuals, there can be no society, no empire, no community to save. If we forget the worth of a single man, then we forsake the worth of the whole.

This is the hand I was dealt. The path the Gods chose for me. I chose to embrace it, and for my lifelong dedication and self-sacrifice, I now hold the power, resolve, wisdom, and skill necessary to forge a new path from the ashes of the old.

Thus, upon the soils of Arrakesh, I did invoke the most-ancient Ordos Tenebrae - divine call of the Gods against Darkest Void - in the interest of preserving the unity of Mankind in the face of chaos resplendent.

As in ages past, the Matron of the Black Order may invoke the Ordos and call upon her chosen to represent the Order's comprising body as Speakers - through which the Order shall mediate and act upon its member realms, thus ensuring God's will be done by the hands of First- and Second One alike. I wish to seek a Speaker for the Trinity, that we may work in unison to protect the interests and safety of our civilization as a whole. If we cannot band together against this ancient enemy, then we shall fall as one.

I foresee many difficult, painful choices in our future... But this is why the Gods chose the South to house the Voidwalker Empress. This is why the Gods chose the North to house the Void and its Spawn. To be the seat of change. The South shall be the hammer that strikes the anvil of the north, crushing the Void between its holy vice-grip.

Who among our kind would join the Order in federation, echoing the divine breath of our Gods? Ensuring the continued survival of the fabric of our societies? The safety of our brethren? The vitality of our homeland?

I live and die in the name of the Black Order, the supreme Gods of Man who charged the first Martyrs of Vanguard with watching over its brethren, and the people we are sworn to protect! My soul belongs to the Gods, the Order, and the brotherhood of Man!

Spoiler: The Triarch's Response and Blessing (click to show/hide)

by Pius I on 7-37-3 (October 28, 2015 10:32)

And given that you are re-erecting this great, old order you seem to wish my approval or blessing of this operation? I believe that, given your goals and the rumours and reports that have managed to reach me here, it is clear that it's the God of chaos, Tymetras, ancient foe of the Holy Trinity, that is to blame for this once more. In that sense it would be more than just and righteous for me to support your order and lend it all the legitimacy and support it needs.

I am intruiged by your knowledge though. You speak of ancient times when the Void was there once before. I know my share of history, but it seems I have never heard of such an event. How is it possible that our kind has forgotten about such a threat, such a terror?

Spoiler: Matriarch Lysandra's Response (click to show/hide)

by Lysandra Gault-Moore of the Black Order on 7-37-3 (October 28, 2015 12:04)

I do not know about the history of this continent so much as the history of my people's homelands and the lands beyond that. I only know that Vanguards of the Black Order once visited this land, yet for whatever reason, failed to establish a single Chapter of the Black Order. It is our duty to ensure the natives of a new land are effectively trained and educated on the nature of the Void, so the reasoning for their failure is unknown to me.

Only recently did I find concrete proof of their presence here - in the form of two Vanguard relics. One was discovered deep within the bowels of an underground dungeon by the Grand Adventurer of Ascalon, Lady Rhea Wyvernknigt, an honorable and dutiful woman whose dedication to her charge has brought her against the dungeon's darkest denizens in triumph. My own cousin, Maximilian Vvaros Aurea af Tutroleigh, Aruspex Imperatori of the Black Order, Count of Tutroleigh, Grand Historian of Ascalon, has delved into such dungeons beside her and the late Princess Catherine of Arescod, daughter of the Ascalonian King, where they defeated dark creatures and mutated fauna as a team. A noble of Arrakesh has also discovered one such relic, a black gauntlet inscribed with ancient runic script belonging to the Arkh Imperium - their civilization a thousand years dead, the geographic predecessors of my people.

According to the Order's history, a black gauntlet signifies a Vanguard has reached the final leg of his or her journey - their lives and service forfeit and complete beneath the eyes of God. Whatever they encountered was powerful enough to ensure they would never rise again from the depths of such dungeons. Few historical texts still exist from before the Sundering of the Au'ruin homeland, a massive invasion of Voidspawn that poured forth from hidden caverns beneath a dormant volcanic caldera. From what we may ascertain, the mad-emperor of Arkh accused the Black Order of heresy, burning their chapters and the Black Library that housed their religious and historical texts - arcane weapons of holy knowledge, much of it passed down by the very Gods prior to the God Wars, used to combat the growing influence of the dark god Tymetras and his craven ilk. With the Black Order decimated, the Voidspawn soon overran the Arkh Imperium - this great Sundering serving to end the mad-emperors reign forevermore. The Order laid dormant for countless centuries, afraid to make itself known and suffer the same fate at the hands of those blinded by Tymetras' influence. It is no wonder that you cannot recall the Void, as it was rarely known as such. Call it what you will - servants of Tymetras, children of dark gods, undead, the product of necromancers, the wall of darkness, Voidblight, the truth remains the same - here, upon this very continent, their kind are evolving. Growing stronger, faster, more intelligent, more ruthless. Something must be causing this transformation. Someone, or something, holds a vested interest in ensuring the Void expands and destroys the civilizations of Man - returning us to dark times where fear and terror run rampant, where our kind's numbers dwindle and society crumbles at our feet.

The Order believes this may be the work of a Voidwalker - incredibly-intelligent creatures - the greatest of Tymetras' dark children - which our kind has not faced in over a thousand years. The people of the Au'ruin never forgot those legends, even when the rest of the world moved on. Ours is an insular realm, laid upon a distant volcanic archipelago where news of the outside world comes rare and far-removed. Our very children are taught the legends of the Void, that we might never forget the ruin it has caused. Now, this Void rises to the East once more - plaguing the lands of Ascalon and Erstes, spreading beyond their borders with every passing day. Fleeing the Au'ruin homelands once more, this time due to the rise of the tyrant-usurper Halfdan Thorbrandr - grandfather to the Au'ruin princes, who sought them killed and removed from the line of succession. I came to Arrakesh to protect the Au'ruin heirs, and inadvertently stepped into the heart of the Void's touch. I came face to face with the Empress of Arrakesh, Menaka Sangvari Verakesh Sul-Artha, a Void-touched madwoman of incredible power and ability who so recently awoke from a thousand-year slumber... Just in time to witness the Void take hold of the central continent almost overnight... It is far too much of a coincidence. Now, with the rise of the Black Order of Arrakesh, I have imprisoned her in the subterranean vaults of Black Rose Manor, within a secure stronghold so deep into the living earth that her powers are useless to affect the surface world. The Empress admitted to being Void-touched, and to murdering her husband, Prince Ganthor Vendaran.

Her power is that of the dark god Tymetras himself - she poisons everything she touches, probing and seizing their minds - corrupting them in flesh and spirit until they finally find solace in death. My people have analyzed her blood, discovering a strain of Voidblight unlike the one which currently inflicts the Forsaken Zone and lands surrounding The Void. Her disease is far more complex, of a strain altogether alien - one which allows her to control the Voidspawn, and even the uninfected. She, alone, nearly caused the collapse of Arrakeshian, Doarhian, and Sarantine society in one fell swoop. Imagine if she is but the first of many such slumberlings yet to awaken from their dungeons and crypts? Carrying this ancient blight within their veins, capable of effortlessly twisting the minds of those they encounter, forcing them to do their bidding with question of consciousness?

With the death of our former Matriarch in combat against the Voidspawn, allowed to run rampart during Tyrant-Usurper Halfdan Thorbrandr's reign, I am the last Speaker of the Order who qualifies to lead it. Thus, I so recently became its Matriarch. As such, I have sought to protect this - my new homeland - from any form of dark corruption which assaults its borders. Though we have triumphed in the South, the north grows weary of the Void's expansion. For every Voidspawn struck down, two more rise in their place. For every settlement retaken from the Void, they infect two more. Every man who enters the Void, without the Order's blessing and ancient wards, brings back the infection. With every bandit who crosses through, more and more of our dead rise to attack us. Settlements fall and become havens of diseased corruption, spreading chaos and death in their wake. Unless the people of this continent are relinquished of their ignorance upon the subject of the Void, they will only grant it further power. Raw aggression and bloodshed cannot defeat the Void - how can you kill that which is already dead? That which spreads through infectious spores, like a parasitic fungus that sucks dry the life of every shrub, flower, and tree within its reach?

I have long studied the nature and history of the Void, in-so-far as we may recall. I would gladly share more of this knowledge with you. You need only ask.

/End of HOLYSHIET Wall of Text. Ehndras out~

[DoomOnion]

That is one awesome RP. Now I want to set up a character in the Order, and one in the void just so that I can be a part of it.

[SOLDIER First]

ptw

[Hanzoku]

Interesting. I'm mostly tied up in trying to beat the predecessor to my current estate to death to make him stop trying to claim it back. Our liege got fed up with him after he stopped responding in any fashion and cut off trade with the 'capitol' of our province. We ended up having to march troops in to force a takeover claim, but since he's a friendly member of the realm, he just sits in the city and keeps trying to start takeover attempts. I really wish there was a way to expel a 'friendly' noble from a city if you're the owner. I already have permissions set that once he leaves, he's not allowed back in on friendly terms.

[Ehndras]

That is one awesome RP. Now I want to set up a character in the Order, and one in the void just so that I can be a part of it.

Come join the fun! Send a character to Black Wyvern Outpost, it'll be the site of the new and incredibly active Chapter of the Black Order - in a day or so once the King of Ascalon and his crew arrive to be decontaminated by Lysandra and the Orders' Clericus. We have a few fealty offers in the Void, and I'll put another few up in Pestilence in a few minutes. Join usssss

[Ehndras]

Interesting. I'm mostly tied up in trying to beat the predecessor to my current estate to death to make him stop trying to claim it back. Our liege got fed up with him after he stopped responding in any fashion and cut off trade with the 'capitol' of our province. We ended up having to march troops in to force a takeover claim, but since he's a friendly member of the realm, he just sits in the city and keeps trying to start takeover attempts. I really wish there was a way to expel a 'friendly' noble from a city if you're the owner. I already have permissions set that once he leaves, he's not allowed back in on friendly terms.

Yeah, that's a problem. I'll be sure to get on the forum and make a suggestion for some sort of "Get the fuck out!" *throws the vagrant out on his ass* "And STAY out!" mechanic. Why don't you initiate combat and try to capture him? If you're lucky, he'll die in combat and his remaining estates will go independent.