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lion95

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Game mechanics?
« on: October 20, 2015, 05:15:19 pm »

There is always that one game mechanic we refuse to dabble in... for me it's patrols --I haven't used them in a very long time! However I am addicted to minecarts.

What is your favorite and least favorite game mechanic?
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2015, 05:42:09 pm »

I haven't played enough to determine a favourite, I don't think :|a

My least favourite at this point is probably bins and barrels because they KEEP BUGGING OUT X| I just wanna store more stuff, stop saying we don't have X when it's very clearly in that barrel over there ;;
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Re: Game mechanics?
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2015, 06:38:34 pm »

I haven't played enough to determine a favourite, I don't think :|a

My least favourite at this point is probably bins and barrels because they KEEP BUGGING OUT X| I just wanna store more stuff, stop saying we don't have X when it's very clearly in that barrel over there ;;
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Re: Game mechanics?
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2015, 06:47:17 pm »

Favorite? Minecarts and quantum stockpiles.

I really dislike the inconsistency for "user interface interactions" though. One time a list is scrolled by using 2/8 and 3/9, another it is scrolled using +/-. Or another example, designating up/down stairs is i while constructing them is x ... If that counts as "game mechanics". Still annoys me quite often though. And I can't be bothered to change the key bindings because at some point I'll reinstall again and all will be lost again and I'll just be even more confused... D;
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2015, 06:49:38 pm »

Favorite? Minecarts and quantum stockpiles.

I really dislike the inconsistency for "user interface interactions" though. One time a list is scrolled by using 2/8 and 3/9, another it is scrolled using +/-. Or another example, designating up/down stairs is i while constructing them is x ... If that counts as "game mechanics". Still annoys me quite often though. And I can't be bothered to change the key bindings because at some point I'll reinstall again and all will be lost again and I'll just be even more confused... D;

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Re: Game mechanics?
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2015, 07:43:35 pm »

I don't think I've ever hit any creature with a catapult or ballista, and yet I keep building them.  They just seem exciting!
I also have not used patrols for a long time, never use minecarts.
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2015, 07:50:40 pm »

I don't use minecarts. I never once even tried to use them. Don't know why.
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2015, 09:38:28 pm »

I find stockpile links very convenient for managing item collection and industry.

I've never bothered with burrows beyond civilian alert. Too much hassle.
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Re: Game mechanics?
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2015, 10:23:56 pm »

I hate stockpiles. The constant hauling and the delay on making an item and doing anything with that item drive me insane. I use a food stockpile to keep things from rotting, but usually just let things accumulate in workshops. I usually don't make enough things to make the workshops too cluttered, and if I do, I just deconstruct and reconstruct it and leave all the stuff on the entrance tile of the workshop.

I love making traps. Simple weapon trap hallways filled to the brim with serrated discs, drowning chambers, atom smashers, rerouting the invader's path through a room full of supergoblins. Its just fun. Watching legendary whateverdwarves disembowel is fun, but I generally feel less invested in that because all I did was give them weapons and armour and a weapon rack. I build every trap myself and therefore **I** am defending my precious little dwarves from assault rather then having them face danger on their own.
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Re: Game mechanics?
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2015, 10:57:53 pm »

Whats a patrol? Me just send everyone on that Forgotten beast...
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How Minecart work? Me never know.

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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2015, 03:02:09 am »

Favorite mechanic?

Dumping and by extension, quantum stockpiles.

Besides its basic use as a way to separate trash from stuff, its versatile as a way to get items where you want them to be. I often resort to it to disentangle stockpiles that get stuck (soap in buckets in barrels) or even to mass remove XXclothingXX that are still claimed and dump them on the trade depot itself for easy trading later. Same thing with invader clothes and such.

Least favorite mechanic?

I would vote patrols, but since I don't even use it, it barely counts. Ditto for stuff like routes and such.

I would say Beekeeping and by extension, all the kitchen stockpile stuff that requires specialized containers like jugs and vials.

Marginally useful when setup, but its just such a pain in the ass to do.

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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2015, 03:42:54 am »

Favorites: Quantum Stockpiles, (cage & menacing spike)traps, bridges, impulse ramp driven repeaters, obsidianization. Ballistae are great for removal of trees in water and camping creatures (just got rid of 3 albatrosses camping for 5+ years), but rather useless for "normal" use.

Don't cares: Patrols, traffic designations, X-bows, dyes, fancy glass, pottery, decorations.

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Dislikes: Inability to tell dorfs which side to build walls from. Treesplosion. Moronic dorfs that insist on dropping worn clothing to block building sites. Inability to order dorfs to absolutely keep away from places that will get them killed. Inaccessible campers, like many of the sphere creatures entering in water. Cancellation spam due to civilian alerts or lack of buckets (if the latter is a "give water" one it can cripple the whole fortress because nobody is doing any work, just spamming).
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2015, 07:38:49 am »

I find it pretty rewarding to run as many industries as possible in a given fort; it gives your dwarves something to do and fills your fort with masterpieces. It always makes me a bit sad when an industry is impossible (e.g., beekeeping on a glacier), but I'll go out of my way to purchase sand or clay if they aren't available on the map. Later in a fort's life, I even like to allow a single dwarf to become the designated Trapper--there's no real need to capture, tame and sell/extract from vermin, but I like that the option's there. I've never delved into dwarven computing, just minecarts in general and power generation.

As far as the military goes, I find just about all the options to be really useful--if you set up rotating patrols around your various gates into the fortress (I prefer to have squads go on patrol duty the month before their yearly vacation), you don't have to worry about, say, manually un-caging captured blind cave ogres for them to slaughter in the arena, they just take care of 'em in the cavern. The one exception to all the options being useful is my favorite mechanic to ignore: lawdwarves. Seriously, those brutal pigs have no place in my forts. I'd much rather a noble have a sad thought than a useful craftsdwarf be crippled or killed because I forgot a mandate, and when it comes to actual criminals, like vampires, I'm much better at actually ridding the fort of the menace by means of traps than they are by means of beatings.
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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2015, 07:52:58 am »

I like burrows.  They take time to set up but worth it when there is an invasion.   :)

I hate minecarts - tried to use them once and totally screwed it up.  Waste of time.  Also never used patrols.  That's why I have walls, stationed dogs, and kids running around - great early warning systems.     :D
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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2015, 10:22:28 am »

Ballistae are great for removal of trees in water

I had not thought of that... that is brilliant!
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