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Author Topic: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)  (Read 272888 times)

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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1110 on: November 07, 2016, 11:49:25 pm »

that's just what they WANT you to think

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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1111 on: November 07, 2016, 11:57:21 pm »

Theres also a bunch that were extended due to 'diplomatic irregularities', or people just forgot, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_extended_by_diplomatic_irregularity
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1112 on: November 08, 2016, 07:16:41 am »

Nah, forget the political motivations.

Just remember: Ordnance has expiry dates. Use it or lose it, folks.
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« Reply #1113 on: November 08, 2016, 08:55:35 am »

Some people mix up ordnance with ordinance. Both ways, probably.  ;)
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« Reply #1114 on: November 08, 2016, 09:15:56 am »

So, on the front it's basically a stalemate with constant shelling by artillery? What is this, WW1?

Without the trenches, maybe....
This is WW1 with drones, thermographic cameras and some other stuff. No side is using airforce and Ukraine pulled most of artillery away from the front-line because of Minsk agreements (It is a treason if you ask me)
   
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1115 on: November 08, 2016, 11:01:08 am »

Nah, forget the political motivations.

Just remember: Ordnance has expiry dates. Use it or lose it, folks.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/11/long-range-projectiles-for-navys-newest-ship-too-expensive-to-shoot/

Gotta find someone to buy the 800k missiles my client cancelled, before it expires.  :P
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1116 on: November 08, 2016, 01:36:49 pm »

So, on the front it's basically a stalemate with constant shelling by artillery? What is this, WW1?

Without the trenches, maybe....
This is WW1 with drones, thermographic cameras and some other stuff. No side is using airforce and Ukraine pulled most of artillery away from the front-line because of Minsk agreements (It is a treason if you ask me)
 
I've seen info that they recently fished out an Orlan-10 from the sea and that the other side doesn't really give a shit and artillery strikes at Ukrainian side are still happening.
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1117 on: November 08, 2016, 03:35:09 pm »

Nah, forget the political motivations.

Just remember: Ordnance has expiry dates. Use it or lose it, folks.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/11/long-range-projectiles-for-navys-newest-ship-too-expensive-to-shoot/

Gotta find someone to buy the 800k missiles my client cancelled, before it expires.  :P

They're not even missiles, just the world's most expensive arty rounds. It's especially entertaining that Lockheed is claiming time on target and first round kill probability as serious innovation, considering they've been artillery considerations for longer than I've been alive.
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1118 on: November 13, 2016, 01:49:24 pm »

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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1119 on: November 13, 2016, 02:12:30 pm »

Nah, forget the political motivations.

Just remember: Ordnance has expiry dates. Use it or lose it, folks.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/11/long-range-projectiles-for-navys-newest-ship-too-expensive-to-shoot/

Gotta find someone to buy the 800k missiles my client cancelled, before it expires.  :P

They're not even missiles, just the world's most expensive arty rounds. It's especially entertaining that Lockheed is claiming time on target and first round kill probability as serious innovation, considering they've been artillery considerations for longer than I've been alive.

Kind of sounds like an attempt to make battleships a thing again.
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1120 on: November 13, 2016, 07:15:19 pm »

Nah, forget the political motivations.

Just remember: Ordnance has expiry dates. Use it or lose it, folks.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/11/long-range-projectiles-for-navys-newest-ship-too-expensive-to-shoot/

Gotta find someone to buy the 800k missiles my client cancelled, before it expires.  :P

They're not even missiles, just the world's most expensive arty rounds. It's especially entertaining that Lockheed is claiming time on target and first round kill probability as serious innovation, considering they've been artillery considerations for longer than I've been alive.

Kind of sounds like an attempt to make battleships a thing again.
Actually, that's exactly what they are. When the Navy finally managed to convince Congress to let them retire the Iowas, one of the conditions was that the Navy had to have something to replace them as gun platforms for fire support.  These rounds, fired from the Zumwalts, were the intended replacement.  The other alternative, proposed retrofits to the Arleigh Burkes to increase their gun range, hit severe cost inflation, did not deliver on expectations based on preliminary data, and was ultimately and unceremoniously cancelled to not much notice from Congress, because DDGs and DDXs aren't nearly as sexy as the Queens of the Waves.  Do let me know if that starts ringing any bells. :P

This, by the bye, is also why another condition for the retirement of the USS Iowa and USS Wisconsin includes a provision that no alterations be made to them as museum ships that would prevent them from being recommissioned and that spare parts be laid in to support the ships if they are recommissioned. 
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1121 on: November 15, 2016, 03:27:14 am »

In Russia, the minister of Economic Affairs Aleksej Oeljoekajev has been arrested on corruption charges and faces 8 to 15 years in prison.
He has been accused of accepting a bribe of 2 million dollars to allow state oil company Rosneft to buy out another oil company, Bashneft, for 330 billion rubles.

While lower officials have been accused and arrested of corruption before, this is the first time that the Investigative Committee of Russia arrests a member of government.

Oeljoekajev became the subject of investigation when his name showed up in the Panama Papers, where his son held a mailbox firm that was later transferred to the minister's wife.

Putin appointed Oeljoekajev in june 2013 as minister of Economic Affairs. Before that, he had been the vice-president of the Russian Central Bank for 10 years.
The minister will likely appear before court this tuesday. It is unclear if the case will have consequences for the Rosneft - Bashneft deal.
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1122 on: November 15, 2016, 07:30:36 am »

The Rosneft-Bashneft deal is needed to balance the books of the Russian government (basically they're selling one state company to another one to extract cash from Rosneft while maintaining control).
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1123 on: November 16, 2016, 07:50:22 am »

Russia withdraws from the International Criminal Court

It is an interesting development. Are they expecting some unfavourable decisions?
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1124 on: November 16, 2016, 04:31:03 pm »

Russia withdraws from the International Criminal Court
It is an interesting development. Are they expecting some unfavourable decisions?
Putin probably making contingency plans that break human rights laws because:
  • Maybe he is preparing for his own death and succession
  • Or is reacting to his popularity decreasing

Maybe both?
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