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[Helgoland]

but it look like they'll stay over the 10% threshold needed to get into parliament and prevent Erdogan from re-writing the Constitution.

Yup, they did. A glimpse of hope, I guess.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Seeing how Turkey is becoming the next Iran is sad And Turkey is way to close to Ukraine to not worry about this transformation.

[Sheb]

I wouldn't call it the next Iran. The Iranian regime was created via a revolution, I find Turkey's move toward "managed democracy" much closer to what happened to Russia under Putin. Or, to a lesser degree, to Hungary under Orbàn.

[martinuzz]

From what I've seen, the constitutional change that Erdogan wants, to give the president more power, resembles the US model more than it does the Russia-Putin model.
(Although the way he goes about achieving majority, by arresting and criminalizing opposition and media, resembles the Putin model more)

[Sheb]

Yeah, I was talking about the way he wins elections. Thank god the HDP survived.

[scriver]

From what I've seen, the constitutional change that Erdogan wants, to give the president more power, resembles the US model more than it does the Russia-Putin model.

Isn't it the other way around? That the president has more power in the Russian model than the US one?

[sluissa]

From what I've seen, the constitutional change that Erdogan wants, to give the president more power, resembles the US model more than it does the Russia-Putin model.

Isn't it the other way around? That the president has more power in the Russian model than the US one?

Based on the way it appears, whatever position Putin occupies holds more power.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

The latest U.S. intelligence suggests that the crash of a Russian passenger jet in the Sinai over the weekend was most likely caused by a bomb on the plane planted by ISIS or an ISIS affiliate, according to a U.S. official familiar with the matter.

I am curious how will Russian public react on this if it is a bomb

[smjjames]

The latest U.S. intelligence suggests that the crash of a Russian passenger jet in the Sinai over the weekend was most likely caused by a bomb on the plane planted by ISIS or an ISIS affiliate, according to a U.S. official familiar with the matter.

I am curious how will Russian public react on this if it is a bomb

Probably the same as Ukranians would if it were only Ukranians on there and Ukraine was actively fighting ISIS and being on the same side as Assad.

[nenjin]

The latest U.S. intelligence suggests that the crash of a Russian passenger jet in the Sinai over the weekend was most likely caused by a bomb on the plane planted by ISIS or an ISIS affiliate, according to a U.S. official familiar with the matter.

I am curious how will Russian public react on this if it is a bomb

Blame America, directly or indirectly?

[boki]

The latest U.S. intelligence suggests that the crash of a Russian passenger jet in the Sinai over the weekend was most likely caused by a bomb on the plane planted by ISIS or an ISIS affiliate, according to a U.S. official familiar with the matter.

I am curious how will Russian public react on this if it is a bomb

Blame America, directly or indirectly?

Directly dont see a reason, indirectly yes, as USA is one of the main reasons there is all this problems with  ISIS in the first place.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

The latest U.S. intelligence suggests that the crash of a Russian passenger jet in the Sinai over the weekend was most likely caused by a bomb on the plane planted by ISIS or an ISIS affiliate, according to a U.S. official familiar with the matter.

I am curious how will Russian public react on this if it is a bomb

Probably the same as Ukranians would if it were only Ukranians on there and Ukraine was actively fighting ISIS and being on the same side as Assad.

I don't think so. If Ukraine would wage unnecessary war that attracted terrorists to Ukrainian citizens... We'd have few hundreds of thousands on the streets protesting against such war.

BTW, If Ukrainian President would dare to ignore any disaster that took hundreds of lives of Ukrainian citizens and give no speech on the TV like Putin did... I can't even imagine what kind of shitstorm would start.

[Sergarr]

Well, at least our society is literally invulnerable to terrorism. That seems like an advantage in modern world.

[smjjames]

The latest U.S. intelligence suggests that the crash of a Russian passenger jet in the Sinai over the weekend was most likely caused by a bomb on the plane planted by ISIS or an ISIS affiliate, according to a U.S. official familiar with the matter.

I am curious how will Russian public react on this if it is a bomb

Probably the same as Ukranians would if it were only Ukranians on there and Ukraine was actively fighting ISIS and being on the same side as Assad.

I don't think so. If Ukraine would wage unnecessary war that attracted terrorists to Ukrainian citizens... We'd have few hundreds of thousands on the streets protesting against such war.

BTW, If Ukrainian President would dare to ignore any disaster that took hundreds of lives of Ukrainian citizens and give no speech on the TV like Putin did... I can't even imagine what kind of shitstorm would start.

*facepalm*

I think you misunderstood what I meant. I meant, if you switched the word Russian for Ukranian, making the question how would Ukranians react because it was almost sounding like you expected the Russian public to react differently than if Ukraine was in the same position doing the same things Russia is, hypothetically.

Edit: Actually, they probably would react differently politically wise, and no, I don't know what was up with Putin not giving a statement about it.

Well, at least our society is literally invulnerable to terrorism. That seems like an advantage in modern world.

You're not helping the point I'm making (though not sure if you caught onto the point I was making).

[Sergarr]

Well, at least our society is literally invulnerable to terrorism. That seems like an advantage in modern world.

You're not helping the point I'm making (though not sure if you caught onto the point I was making).

That point is not going to work against UR, anyway. He'll say "If Ukraine was in the same position as Russia doing the same things, it would be Ukraine-In-Name-Only a la what Ukraine was during Yanuk's rule" or that it would still be different from Russia because of fundamental differences in mentality or something.