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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #360 on: November 25, 2015, 10:13:54 pm »

If you're buzzing people's border and not expecting to be shot at, there's something seriously wrong with your planning. Hell, when I was deployed there were specific steps in the event Iran felt like invading, which is approximately a hundred times less likely than Turkey getting annoyed enough at Russian jets to shoot one down to make a point.
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« Reply #361 on: November 25, 2015, 10:52:34 pm »

If you're buzzing people's border and not expecting to be shot at, there's something seriously wrong with your planning. Hell, when I was deployed there were specific steps in the event Iran felt like invading, which is approximately a hundred times less likely than Turkey getting annoyed enough at Russian jets to shoot one down to make a point.

I wouldn't be surprised if they got complacent because they do the border stuff with the US and NATO all the time and don't get shot down. Although they don't directly cross our borders, don't know about the incidents in Europe.
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« Reply #362 on: November 25, 2015, 11:05:24 pm »

Meanwhile, BBC is reporting that Russian planes and cruise missiles are hitting Syrian Turkoman rebel positions which are not affiliated with ISIS.

Putin is never one to miss an opportunity to exploit a tragedy for geopolitical gain. This way he can directly intervene to prop up Assad and claim that he's on the same side as the West.
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« Reply #363 on: November 25, 2015, 11:06:08 pm »

He's really trying to piss off Erdogan now.
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« Reply #364 on: November 25, 2015, 11:09:06 pm »

Meanwhile, BBC is reporting that Russian planes and cruise missiles are hitting Syrian Turkoman rebel positions which are not affiliated with ISIS.

Putin is never one to miss an opportunity to exploit a tragedy for geopolitical gain. This way he can directly intervene to prop up Assad and claim that he's on the same side as the West.

He's really trying to piss off Erdogan now.

So much for trying to de-escalate things :/ and yeah, he's really trying to goad Turkey into attacking.
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #365 on: November 25, 2015, 11:10:11 pm »

If you're buzzing people's border and not expecting to be shot at, there's something seriously wrong with your planning. Hell, when I was deployed there were specific steps in the event Iran felt like invading, which is approximately a hundred times less likely than Turkey getting annoyed enough at Russian jets to shoot one down to make a point.

I wouldn't be surprised if they got complacent because they do the border stuff with the US and NATO all the time and don't get shot down. Although they don't directly cross our borders, don't know about the incidents in Europe.
They have crossed borders into national airspace, but recent violations were tied up in the recent events over Ukraine in 2014; 2015's been relatively calm thus far compared to the sudden spike in aerial drama last year.  Most seemed to be oblique warnings to Finland and the Baltic states timed to coincide with major NATO training exercises or shortly after outspoken statements on the situation in Ukraine, except possibly the incident involving the AN-72.  While I could see those incidents involving jet fighters or surveillance turboprops as being intentional provocations, an empty cargo transport flying through inclement weather would seem like a genuine accident if not for the fact that it's one of no less than five such incidents in half a year, three in a single week. 
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #366 on: November 25, 2015, 11:13:06 pm »

If you're buzzing people's border and not expecting to be shot at, there's something seriously wrong with your planning. Hell, when I was deployed there were specific steps in the event Iran felt like invading, which is approximately a hundred times less likely than Turkey getting annoyed enough at Russian jets to shoot one down to make a point.

If you've buzzed people's borders a hundred times, and they haven't shot at you, it's not something you're going to expect, nor something you should. You should still, you know, plan for it, just in case, but nonetheless.
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« Reply #367 on: November 25, 2015, 11:46:20 pm »

Meanwhile, BBC is reporting that Russian planes and cruise missiles are hitting Syrian Turkoman rebel positions which are not affiliated with ISIS.

Putin is never one to miss an opportunity to exploit a tragedy for geopolitical gain. This way he can directly intervene to prop up Assad and claim that he's on the same side as the West.Russia is legitimately defending an ally, his direct intervention hinders rebels backed by opportunistic nations who are more interested in destabilizing the region rather then focusing on the common enemy.
Propaganda :P
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #368 on: November 25, 2015, 11:54:15 pm »

If you're buzzing people's border and not expecting to be shot at, there's something seriously wrong with your planning. Hell, when I was deployed there were specific steps in the event Iran felt like invading, which is approximately a hundred times less likely than Turkey getting annoyed enough at Russian jets to shoot one down to make a point.

If you've buzzed people's borders a hundred times, and they haven't shot at you, it's not something you're going to expect, nor something you should. You should still, you know, plan for it, just in case, but nonetheless.

Incompetence and complacency, yes.
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #369 on: November 26, 2015, 12:27:49 am »

Meanwhile, BBC is reporting that Russian planes and cruise missiles are hitting Syrian Turkoman rebel positions which are not affiliated with ISIS.

Putin is never one to miss an opportunity to exploit a tragedy for geopolitical gain. This way he can directly intervene to prop up Assad and claim that he's on the same side as the West.Russia is legitimately defending an ally, his direct intervention hinders rebels backed by opportunistic nations who are more interested in destabilizing the region rather then focusing on the common enemy.
Propaganda :P
Well, everyone is trying to get their cake and eat it.
Touche. Guess this is payback for those "Afghani freedom fighters" in the 1980's.
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #370 on: November 26, 2015, 01:54:05 am »

Meanwhile, BBC is reporting that Russian planes and cruise missiles are hitting Syrian Turkoman rebel positions which are not affiliated with ISIS.

Putin is never one to miss an opportunity to exploit a tragedy for geopolitical gain. This way he can directly intervene to prop up Assad and claim that he's on the same side as the West.Russia is legitimately defending an ally, his direct intervention hinders rebels backed by opportunistic nations who are more interested in destabilizing the region rather then focusing on the common enemy.
Propaganda :P
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Touche. Guess this is payback for those "Afghani freedom fighters" in the 1980's.
This is all blowback from Enlightenment Empires + dismantling of the Ottoman Empire.

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« Reply #371 on: November 26, 2015, 05:38:20 am »

Russian opposition leader Sergei Minorov announced on Twitter that he will propose a new law, which will make denying the Armenian genocide in 1915 by the Turks a punishable offense.

That's going to piss a lot of Turks off, since Turkey still refuses to acknowledge it being genocide.
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« Reply #373 on: November 26, 2015, 05:45:33 am »

Russian opposition leader Sergei Minorov announced on Twitter that he will propose a new law, which will make denying the Armenian genocide in 1915 by the Turks a punishable offense.

That's going to piss a lot of Turks off, since Turkey still refuses to acknowledge it being genocide.

I wonder, does Russia have similar law on the books for the Holocaust?
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« Reply #374 on: November 26, 2015, 06:16:26 am »

For lack of EU thread, I'll post this here.

The EU Human Rights Court has ruled a verdict in a 15 year old case against the French state, by a muslim woman who had been fired in 2000 by the hospital she worked at, for refusing to take of her head-scarf, after the hospital had recieved complaints from patients about it.

The court ruled that this is not in violation of the Human Rights Convention. It affirmed that the State of France is in it's right to forbid the wearing of head-covering clothing items for government and public workers.

It is not unthinkable, in the current hystrical climate, that other EU states, and private commercial business will start banning head-scarfs for their employees as well.

Perhaps beards are next lol. Crap. Then I have to start shaving :P
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