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[Vilanat]

Shooting at pilots parachuting is another low those "rebels" have reached.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPmmtrMJyHs

I am hardly a pro Russian, but i think it's time for NATO to kick out Turkey, not just because they killed two Russians for absolutely no reason and risked dragging the entire world to a WW3, but mainly for actively assisting enemies of humanity. It's clear Turkey has changed and not for the better.

[Guardian G.I.]

There are rumours circulating around the Russian internet that the dead pilot was killed by the rebels. Reactions on the social media are usual - Ukrainians are cheering, Russians are jeering. Slavs gonna Slav.

Oddly enough, the last time I checked (13:00 Moscow time), Russian state media were downplaying the Turkish claims - they presented it as if the rebels shot it down. Hopefully neither side will do anything stupid, like present each other ultimatums demanding to get out of Syria. Theoretically NATO may try to do that - they've always backed Turkey in its diplomatic squabbles with Russia.

edit: ninjad by Vilanat - if that video is true, I don't think Moscow will ignore the incident. That is if they don't chicken out, but then again, last year I though Putin wouldn't even dare to claim Crimea, and look what happened...

[Starver]

Not delved too deep into the reports of this incident (accidentally seen a photo of the likely-dead airman), but in a totally unrelated military plane incident due only to a plane-fault (or so I read it as), one of the ejected crew died...  There are risks to ejecting, whether or not there are potentially bloodthirsty ground-forces below.

edit: ...or your plane was actively disintegrating at the time you left it, due to being hit by whatever-it-was-that-hit-it.

[miljan]

Picture of where russian airplane crossed turkey's border and where it crashed in syria.

There are speculations that turkey wanted to pay back syria for shooting down their airplane a year ago and thought it was a syrian air plane, but dont think its that viable theory.

[Vilanat]

It takes an Su-24 approximately 6-7 seconds to cross that ~3 Km width finger.

[Guardian G.I.]

BBC and the Russian media report Putin's official reaction to the incident: he's obviously not pleased with Turkey.
http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-34908469
http://ria.ru/incidents/20151124/1327468413.html (Russian link)

[Sheb]

Miljan, where does that picture comes from?

[miljan]

Miljan, where does that picture comes from?

Turkey posted its radar picture to show that the russian airplanes did cross the border with them. it was reported on my local medias

Will try to find it in english

[Sheb]

If that's the airspace violation Turkey is claiming, this is a giant middle finger to Russia.

[miljan]

Here is where i found the pictures on english sites/twitter:

https://twitter.com/CNNTURK_ENG

http://news.sky.com/story/1593378/russian-jet-shot-down-by-turkey-live-updates

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-24/turkish-f-16-shoots-down-russian-su-24-warplane-near-syria-border

https://twitter.com/HDNER/status/669103121684160512

[Sheb]

Thanks a lot. WTF Turkey?

[Ukrainian Ranger]

It was not the first time when Russia violated Turkish airspace.

[Sheb]

Might be true, but a) there is no way they warned the Su-24 5 times in ten minutes if that's the trajectory. b) It's really a dick move.

[miljan]

Also there are reports that the rescue russian chopper was shot down by syrian rebels. Still need some confirmation

[Sheb]

Sending a rescue chopper to rebel-held territory?