Yay! People are scumhunting.
ATH: jumps about a lot, doesn't always back up his points very well, changes direction very fast, but can't tell if this is just his playstyle.
TolyK: Mentioned a WIFOM as a slight scumtell, but went back on it when questioned. Also, wtf with jailclaiming? I prefer ATH's method to you and roo, at least we know what they're saying.
But now that I've looked through and back, thanks to your good reminder to do so:
Hector13: in the last day/5 pages, he's only attacked ATH really, and one of the inactives, which is easily activity points for a mafioso.
1. In fact, the last time Hector attacked someone else really was on page 15... asking roo about why he though Hector was/wasn't scum. Intriguing.
Also stuff like this, at the top of page 14
2. "Everyone, opinions on the cop-claiming saga. We have two people claiming a role that we know can have a maximum of one in the game, so... at least one of them is lying."
Seriously? Do you think we should scumhunt too, or would that be a bit OTT? /s, completely useless bit, saying, "hey guys, let's post on what's happening".
3. Same post: he asks TolyK for questions. Do mafia like being asked questions? Active style ones do!
4.Same post: He asks TheDarkStar, who has barely spoken, for his voting reason: good, but unlikely to get a reply. And I don't see him looking for it. As in, not chasing up the reply, at least not soon after.
Formatting things, egads. Jumbled thoughts much?
Byraway, all the things you referenced there are from the same post (
this post, seeing as you didn't provide it) so... why were you trying to direct people to a post on page 15 when it all happened page 14?
Also, quick point, I wasn't attacking ATH, I was trying to discover the veracity of his claim, and he was not at all helpful in that respect, so I had to keep pressing him on it.
1. Roo voted for me, I posted saying he was a liar, then he said I wasn't scum and unvoted later. That struck me as odd so I wanted him to tell me about that.
Why does that intrigue you?2. So I shouldn't be encouraging the inactives to post then? I'll keep that in mind. I think that's the third time that you've suggested that people shouldn't be commenting on the cop-claim stuff.
Why is that?3. The only thing that had happened at that point in D1 was the cop-claim and the softclaim from Roo. I was trying to get people involved in the game. Town also like being asked questions, so perhaps you should consider that.
4. I don't really see what I'm s'posed to be chasing up. TDS responded toward the end of that day around 18 hours or so after I asked the question. I can't
force people to answer questions, and as you say TDS wasn't around much then. I wasn't exactly just resting on my laurels and waiting for him to reply was I? I posted three times with questions for ATH trying to figure out why he decided to claim cop on D1, specifically because I was very uncertain over whether it was genuine or fakeclaiming.
Also:How were you expecting us to have guaranteed trust in you, when you have no way of proving your role..?
It's not the most brilliant question, is it? Mafia asking obvious questions - if they want to appear active without getting embroiled in anything, there you go.
I note that you fail to bring up the questions I asked on the next page to ATH, one about the games he said he read, then a question about his thought process in claiming, which I then poke holes in halfway down page 16/post 232.
So I'm going to accuse you at this point of being scum, cherry-picking quotes to suit the case you're inventing.
Also: Around pages 11-12: huge argument with roo, who turned out to be town. And:
I didn't know Roo was town at that point though, did I? He was softclaiming
something, not scumhunting and not answering questions.
Does that sound like town play to you? If so, how?PPE: Looking back for an omgus on roo (this is why we need to be clear ) I realise that people may still want the hints ATH dropped to be shown. Why and to what extent is this a priotiry for you, hector13
Anyway, I wanted the hints from ATH yesterday. It's not important anymore though, 'cause if he's scum he's had too much time to figure out how to explain them away.
You're dropping more lines of questioning than a drunken kangaroo trying to catch strands of nylon in it's teeth, as far as I can see.
One instance does not a pattern make. If you want to tack this on to me, find more examples, preferably better ones.
I first asked ATH to provide quotes
here, followed up
here (which was 5 posts, half an hour later) resulting in ATH saying he couldn't quote, and then me trying to talk him through it. Followed up again
here. I dropped the line of questioning in the bit you quoted, 21 hours and 80 posts after I first asked for the quotes. If ATH was scum, that was more than enough time for them to hash out a way to excuse any of the "hints" he dropped between the two mafiosos and the scum IC, so it would be a pointless endeavour.
Given that you said I've dropped other lines of enquiry, do point them out dearie.Oh, and you had a shamelessly calm response to this. Which doesn't mean you're scum, just weak and lacking in virility. For how could any true man or woman stand to be insulted in such a way?
Fish.
Oh, and we had a fairly contentful conversation around page 11, ending with you FoSing me... and not following it up at all? And your exchange with roo on page 8 didn't contain much but you going, "that's a weird thing to say" repeatedly. And looking back from that, you sure do enjoy those one-line semi-relevant or obvious scumhunting question posts, before page 8 or so, don't you?
Am I s'posed to just gloss over the fact that Roo said that he was quite happy to wait until D2 with 90 hours left in D1? That doesn't strike you as a little bit odd?
The FoS on you was mostly just to see how you reacted. My vote was going to be on ATH or Roo for the end of D1, and I was trying to figure out which one it should be. Roo didn't answer any questions directed at him from when he voted then unvoted me, and I couldn't see that being from a town perspective, so that's why I left my vote there. I was considering moving my vote to Megggas to tie the vote up, but that would have resulted in a no-lynch, which would've been pointless. Had I known the scum's NK was going to fail, I would have liked to do that, though...
Really, Hector, you've been active, but have either gone for easy meat like the uber-dodgy roo and ATH, or just asked questions of inactive people occassionally, not followed stuff up, or simply discussed the game of mafia in a detached, academic way. I don't see you doing much for town except asking the sort of question someone was going to ask, low-level uncomitted (except for easy targets) scumhunting. So actually, I think you're the most suspicious person right now.
How am I s'posed to follow up questions when people don't answer them? As I already said, I can't force people to answer my questions or be active. I can drop votes on people and see, that's what I did at the start of the day, but 4mask is nowhere to be seen, so I'll change my vote to someone who is inactive and I don't have a read on, get them to post something. Hopefully.
What am I not doing for town that you can't apply to yourself, or Tolyk, or ATH? Or anyone else in the game? I'm asking questions, yes mostly of ATH but I'm trying to figure out his play because he's claimed Cop.
Further, I did suggest to everyone that an extension would be useful. Given that Roo turned up town, if I were scum why wouldn't I just leave things as they were and risk more information being brought into play before the end of the day, potentially ruining that mislynch?
UnvoteI'm trying to get people I don't have reads on to actually post, which is somewhat difficult with only one vote. An FoS doesn't really do anything, other than say "yeah, if I had more votes I'd use 'em on you, but I don't so carry on". There are presently three people I want to get talking more:
1.
ATH, because other than claiming, he's done nothing in the game. I want him to back up his gut feelings with some evidence from quotes and such like, but he's failing to produce them despite several attempts at getting him to do so. Of the three, he's the one I feel most likely to be bad-playing town, though that's not saying much.
2.
4mask, because there's what, 2 posts from him? Not much to go on is it? That's why I voted at the start of the day to get him to actually talk.
3.
TDS, because he's not posted much, and I'd quite like him to respond to the stuff I asked him earlier.