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[xxseuzxx]

The conspiracy part was at mijan, who IS a conspiracy theorist, not you xxseuzxx, sorry.

At me? What is conspiracy about what i said? I see people getting killed, guess by who?

I meant this bit because obviously that can't be true for ALL of them.

The thing is, the groups that are doing this are not fleeing from hellish landscapes and ruins. They are on purpose infiltrating to do dmg and shit like that

Eh? You're British I think, right? *throws all manner of meaty American foods at Mijan*

I do like meat, but not american junk food . They poisoned us enough, no need for more

I thought I was quoting you initially, was actually meant at Loud Whispers, sorry man. *offers a peace burrito*

lol.

not all of them.but still a sizable amount of these people behave in such ways that promote discrimination towards them.
only a few fuck up the image of the whole.

[smjjames]

It was a misunderstanding on my part, okay.

Also, considering the level of education some of those refugees have, they might not even KNOW how dangerous absestos is.

[Loud Whispers]

Idk, locals in Calais are always setting fire to things and rioting, regardless of religion. The message is that if white/christians etc did this, nobody would make a link to their race or religion, but if a non white/non christian does we take the same act as evidence that their race/religion is somehow more suspect than the white people in France who riot and set fire to things. And you gotta admit, the refugees probably learned from the French how effective setting fire to things and rioting actually is.
Also, the headlines seem to be that the refugee camp itself is on fire. People usually don't set themselves on fire when they are in a position of power.

What are you talking about one of the national stereotypes of the French is that they won't bloody work because they're too busy setting things on fire and going on strike
Did you even forget when the Germans blamed the Greeks for laziness when they bankrupted?

This is exactly the apologetics that lets Islamism grow more powerful because it has no resistance and progressive parties can't bend over backwards enough for Islamism because Muslims aren't white and that is good ;P
I am heavily associating you with the people who could literally watch a video of Lee Rigby being beheaded by a man calling himself a soldier of Allah and then bury their head in the sands. How many people have been killed today by people shouting Allahu Akbar? You think everyone would be "gee I don't want to live under Shariah and I'm awfully disgruntled that my friends have just been dismembered but it's ok the killers were blond haired americans"?

I swear your people would have a tiger eat one leg because a lion might eat the other

[xxseuzxx]

Idk, locals in Calais are always setting fire to things and rioting, regardless of religion. The message is that if white/christians etc did this, nobody would make a link to their race or religion, but if a non white/non christian does we take the same act as evidence that their race/religion is somehow more suspect than the white people in France who riot and set fire to things. And you gotta admit, the refugees probably learned from the French how effective setting fire to things and rioting actually is.
Also, the headlines seem to be that the refugee camp itself is on fire. People usually don't set themselves on fire when they are in a position of power.

What are you talking about one of the national stereotypes of the French is that they won't bloody work because they're too busy setting things on fire and going on strike
Did you even forget when the Germans blamed the Greeks for laziness when they bankrupted?

This is exactly the apologetics that lets Islamism grow more powerful because it has no resistance and progressive parties can't bend over backwards enough for Islamism because Muslims aren't white and that is good ;P
I am heavily associating you with the people who could literally watch a video of Lee Rigby being beheaded by a man calling himself a soldier of Allah and then bury their head in the sands. How many people have been killed today by people shouting Allahu Akbar? You think everyone would be "gee I don't want to live under Shariah and I'm awfully disgruntled that my friends have just been dismembered but it's ok the killers were blond haired americans"?

I swear your people would have a tiger eat one leg because a lion might eat the other

never has one spoken truth here with 0 regard for this diversity curse placed upon modern Europeans.
let me tell you that in south america you will find Europeans that weren't conditioned by socialist governments to allow said shit.
but most of them are rather old,and their sons and grandsons lost the old mentality.
leading to the hedonistic fucks we have here.the ones that let their traditions die and replace em with shit relating to football,drugs and alcohol.

[Cthulhu]

You get violent shitelords everywhere.

While we're at it, #AllLivesMatter

There's a serious and specific problem but it's uncomfortable so let's blow smoke about extremists in every religion.

It's the fact you said it as if Islam's the only 'religion of peace' with violent members. I was pointing out they're all over the damn place.

I didn't say that though.  And it's still blowing smoke.  This is a conversation about what was almost certainly (Assuming it's not confirmed already, Hollande says they know who did it and where they're from) Islamists, continuing a trend of such attacks on various scales.

No, but it came across that way (at least to me)

Evidently there's miscommunication going on. I then went defensive because, quite honestly, your response was horribly dismissive of me.

Maybe it was.  I hear that line a lot, I don't think it contributes to conversations and I think it deflects discussion on the issue.  To me it's exactly like the all lives matter thing.  A truism people use to smokescreen an uncomfortable reality.

So yeah, it probably did come off as dismissive.

[Loud Whispers]

Maybe it was.  I hear that line a lot, I don't think it contributes to conversations and I think it deflects discussion on the issue.  To me it's exactly like the all lives matter thing.  A truism people use to smokescreen an uncomfortable reality.

So yeah, it probably did come off as dismissive.

Spoiler: You call that a smokescreen? This is how the pros do it (click to show/hide)

[mainiac]

Well, sure. Abstract concepts can't hold a religion; I'd be rather terrified if they could.

Are you denying that the internet worships Al Gore, Ron Paul and moot?

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Also, the headlines seem to be that the refugee camp itself is on fire. People usually don't set themselves on fire when they are in a position of power. But considering how the camp has gone up in flames it was clearly a massive fire risk to begin with, and it's just as likely this was a fuck up and not a specific campaign. Without news reports of a riot to go with the fire, we really can't say it was a deliberate thing. People usually do that to bring attention to their plight. Just burning down the camp then saying nothing about it is not the way protest works. And people don't tend to just burn down their own dwellings for the lulz.

Think it might have been a bonfire or something that got out of control?  Temperatures are dropping and the middle east tends to have higher temperatures for the most part.

[Loud Whispers]

I've heard the fire at Calais is real, or rather was real - that that photo was taken of a fire that happened on the 3rd of October and is not related to anything that has happened yesterday on Friday 13th

-snip-

That feels...
I'm not sure, they're stating something obvious, but it feels wrong somehow.

Well depending on what definition of terrorism you're using it's right. I personally use terrorism as a strategy as my definition, since the terrorist label seems fitting for civilian mass murderers attacking in a certain way even if their motives are apolitical or irreligious. Without getting too sidetracked, it's right - but it feels wrong because it's deflecting blame from the ideology and the ideologists whose motives lie behind the attack. It'd be like saying genocide has no race right after the Armenian genocide.
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[Wolfhunter107]

-snip-

That feels...

I'm not sure, they're stating something obvious, but it feels wrong somehow.

I'm kinda getting a SJW vibe from it.

[Pwnzerfaust]

If this doesn't result in a 10-20% increase in Front National support, and a 5-10% increase in anti-immigration parties across Europe, I'd be astounded.

Might finally result in some sanity about who is accepted and who is shown the door.

[redwallzyl]

so ya hostage situation went badly to say the least... death toll over 100 in the theater apparently... good thing the suicide bombers couldn't get in the stadium that would have been bad. apparently the french president was at the game there.


trade center is lit op like the french flag. i guess its basically their equivalent of 9/11 now.

[Cthulhu]

-snip-

That feels...

I'm not sure, they're stating something obvious, but it feels wrong somehow.

I'm kinda getting a SJW vibe from it.

Yeah, I think that's the issue.

Hmm... I wonder if there's anyone blaming terrorism on white heterosexual men yet?

I think it was after Charlie Hebdo that people said we needed to increase integration and support for immigrants to make them feel more welcome.

They already closed the borders and Hollande is calling for pitiless retaliation. 

[Wolfhunter107]

Here's betting that the guys that did it are second generation immigrants. Those, especially considering how disaffected the French second/third generation immigrants tend to be, are the biggest worry.

[Loud Whispers]

Spoiler: Calais fire stuff (click to show/hide)

 

If this doesn't result in a 10-20% increase in Front National support, and a 5-10% increase in anti-immigration parties across Europe, I'd be astounded.

Might finally result in some sanity about who is accepted and who is shown the door.

Le Pen is leading presidential polls. You don't fuck around with demographics without being smart, when you do people die. Another great success for uncontrolled immigration, where both immigrants and europeans feel that politicians prioritize the other over the other

The people to immigrate there will be thinking 'Much better than back home!', and of course that'll be lost on the next generations because they've grown up without a previous, worse living to compare it to in some comparatively less wealthy and less stable area, but beyond that, what's causing it? If it was just that you'd be seeing the native populations constantly coming up and staging uprisings...
Is there some desire to claim back their heritage or something?

They never lost their superior heritage and they want to create the Ummah