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15 (62.5%)

Total Members Voted: 23

[mainiac]

His people want change but they also want functioning government.  The gross incompetence of unelected european elites mean that european leaders have to balance between those two cocerns, like Aztec kings balancing between the needs of their people and the bloodlust of their gods.

[Sergarr]

I'm not sure what "the bloodlust of their gods" maps to in EU context...

[nenjin]

Insatiable appetite for cheese?

[mainiac]

I'm not sure what "the bloodlust of their gods" maps to in EU context...

Fetishistic obsession with pro-cyclical monetary and fiscal policies.  So the Portuguese people want good policies but the unelected elites want bad policies and their politicians have the balance the concerns of the voters and the assholes with the demonstrated willingness to crash the banking system if they dont get their way.

[Helgoland]

Guys, I'd go easy on the whole 'unelected elites' rhethorics - I'm fairly certain the president of Portugal is appointed democratically as well, and does not rule by the Merkelian Right of Portuguese Presidents.

[mainiac]

What a wonderful retort to an argument nobody made, Helgoland.  I said that the President of Portugal had to balance between unelected elites and the voters, not that the president was unelected.

[Loud Whispers]

LOL.

How constructive.

Indeed. If you shitpost at least make it shitpost with content, and at the very least more than just a 1 word personal reaction.

It sure looks to me like Silva thinks he knows what his constituents want better than his constituents. He says outright that his goal is to avoid challenging Eurozone fiscal policy, as the article notes, in direct opposition to his own democratic mandate and against Portuguese political tradition.
If you see it differently then let's hear it.

This is not a democracy

[mainiac]

This is not a direct democracy

FTFY

[sprinkled chariot]

Is the Germany really that much brutally dominating greece and other not so rich EU countries with its iron fist?

[Bouchart]

Yes.

[Teneb]

All hail the Holy Merkel Empire.

Shitpost aside, I expect the political and social situation in Lusitania to get messy from this move.

[Loud Whispers]

Jihad march, Copenhagen
So tolerant, so progressive
It ended with a bunch of shiites getting attacked. Multicultural society free of hate and Danes :/

[mainiac]

Is the Germany really that much brutally dominating greece and other not so rich EU countries with its iron fist?

"Germany" is dominating Europe in the sense that "Bush" created the abuses of the Iraqi prisons.  There is a bad system and they are promoting it out of self interest.  That bad system produces bad results.

[Helgoland]

Yes.

No.

See? Just as constructive a post as yours so far. Fun fact: Most of the northern and eastern EU member states took equally or even more hard-line stances - it just doesn't get noticed much because it's just so easy to paint Germany as the Big Bad.

This is not a direct democracy

FTFY

Thanks, pretty much what I meant before.

Is the Germany really that much brutally dominating greece and other not so rich EU countries with its iron fist?

"Germany" is dominating Europe in the sense that "Bush" created the abuses of the Iraqi prisons.  There is a bad system and they are promoting it out of self interest.  That bad system produces bad results.

Except for the implication that it is being done purely out of self-interest - which no doubt is one reason, but hardly the only one - I do agree with this post of yours. You appear to be going soft, mainiac~

[mainiac]

I'm rather proud of the fact that people round here keep saying I change when the topics of conversation change.  A week ago a bunch of the liberal americans in the political thread were asking why I had changed into such a bullheaded Clinton partisan who was denying that Bernie Sanders had won the debate.