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Voting closed: October 09, 2015, 11:13:56 pm

[coleslaw35]

Hello! I have an idea for a game that I could possibly run here, but I wasn't sure if people would show enough interest or if it was too complicated or not. I'm still thinking on a few mechanics on how to do certain things, but I've got a general idea down!

Keep in mind, I'm not saying I AM running this game. I'm saying I MAY if enough people want to play.

Spoiler: Setting and Plot (click to show/hide)

Setting and Plot

The setting: Zenoya. Zenoya is a three island archipelago roughly located in the southern portion of the Pacific Ocean. On each island is an entirely different country with a unique culture and language. The northern island, Skolinva, is a strange mix of Russian and Slavonic culture/language. Carenza has roots deep in Latin American culture and the official language is Spanish. Ikadma derives its culture and language from the Middle East, resulting in a mix of Arabic, Persian, Turkish, etc.
No one quite knows how these countries and their identities came about since they're so insignificant, though. It's quite mysterious, really. Even the people living in this small corner of the world couldn't tell you.

Due to recent conflict between them though, one of these three countries will emerge victorious in a recently declared war between them. Will you make your country that winner and usurp all of Zenoya?

Spoiler: Example Map of Zenoya (click to show/hide)

If I actually run this game, these islands and island layouts will change, but the names won't. The islands will likely be increased in size and moved farther apart. This map will be used to provide an example of a few things.

Spoiler: Rules (click to show/hide)

Game Rules

The game starts after three players choose a nation to run and what their nation's color will be (preferably one that is not too dark, so that any navies would be easily visible on the board. Color serves no other purpose besides showing which nation is which.) While there may only be one ruler for each country, there can be many advisers for one ruler. These advisers do not make the decisions, but they, obviously, advise the ruler on what they should/shouldn't do. The ruler doesn't HAVE to listen to them but it'd be nice if they did. Advisers may join at any time, as well, but the ruler is first come first serve. If a ruler is not active for 2 days, the nation will temporarily be run by a council of the advisers who make decisions based on majority votes.

Spoiler: Game Mechanics (click to show/hide)

Game Mechanics

Now, once the leaders have been chosen, this is where a few of the mechanics come in during a Pre-War Build Phase.

Each leader must select places for:

-Their capital
-1 Mine anywhere near at least 1 Mountain Tile.
-1 Logging Camp near at least 1 Forest Tile.
-1 Factory anywhere.
-1 Oil Well on one of a few predetermined spots.
-2 Farm plots anywhere on fertile soil (basically anywhere that isn't the ocean or mountains or already where a building is.)
-At most 8 tiles worth of roads.
-1 Port anywhere along the coast.

-Mines will generate minerals (catch-all term for stone, metals, etc.)
-Logging Camps generate Lumber (used in construction along with minerals if required.)
-Factories generate 1 Infantry per 2 turns. Timer until next unit will be displayed on the factory tile. Each factory also provides 0.25 build points.
-The Capital does nothing, but if it is taken over you lose. All buildings must connect to it.
-Each Oil Well provides 4 units of fuel. Fuel is used for navies. Small ships use 1 fuel and big ships use 3.
-When a building isn't connected to the capital by roads, then the time it takes for its output to be produced is twice as high. All buildings, unless stated otherwise, produce their resource every turn. All buildings, excluding lumber mills and farm plots, count as roads. As long as a road reaches a tile NEXT to a building, that building is connected. Roads built through mountains will cost three times as many build points (will go into detail soon.)
-Farm plots are required if you want a larger army. Each plot produces two food. Each infantry unit consumes one food. If you run out of food, then troops will gain an effect which lowers their combat effectiveness and all factories will stop producing infantry. As long as you have one farm plot per two infantry, your armies will not get this negative status.
-Ports build ships. A small ship takes 1 turn and a large ship takes 2.

Each turn, you are allowed 1 build point plus 0.25 from each extra factory. Building more factories also increases upkeep costs.

-Factories cost 2 BP
-Ports cost 3 BP. Maximum of 2 Ports.
-Roads cost 0.25 BP(and if through a mountain tile, 0.75.)
-Mines cost 1 BP.
-Logging Camps cost 1 BP.
-Oil wells cost 2 BP.
-Farm plots do not cost build points, but they do take one turn to create.

Spoiler: Resource Acquisition (click to show/hide)

Resource Acquisition

As previously mentioned, you gain Minerals from Mines and Lumber from Logging Camps. However; the number of resources produced by them depends on the surrounding tiles.

See this map.

(These weren't supposed to be so far apart help)






You'll notice that there are dots around the logging camps on the tiles of woods. That means that a logging camp has now "occupied" those tiles and they can not be used by any other logging camp. Each tile surround a resource collecting building produces 5 of that resource, so in the first picture, the logging camp produces 30 Lumber per turn if connected to the capital. In the second, it'd only produce 15. Likewise, if those forests were mountains and that logging camp was a mine, it'd be 30 Minerals and 15. Resource buildings CAN be constructed on their designated resource, and they WILL collect from it. If there was another forest tile underneath the logging camp, the Lumber collected would go up to 35.

Spoiler: Troop Movement and combat (click to show/hide)

Troop Movement and Combat

On the map, each tile has a movement cost. Infantry can only move 1 point worth of movement each turn. The values for each tile are as follows:

-Road: 0.25 MP
-Plains/Farmland: 0.5
-Forests: 0.75
-Hills/Deserts: 1
-Mountains: 2. It takes two turns to traverse through each mountain tile.

Combat would, as always, be handled with dice (D100). When two enemy armies come within one tile of each other, they have the option to attack. If an army has not moved for a turn, at least, it will gain a Defensive bonus which will raise the defender's Defense roll slightly. Terrain also plays a factor into things, as well as a higher troop count. Attacking uphill with less troops would get you slaughtered.

The Attacker's Attack roll will be rolled one time for each attacking infantry. The Defender's Defense role will be rolled one time for each defending infantry, plus one extra roll due to defense (only if stationary for at least 1 turn). If the average of the Attack rolls + modifiers is higher the average of the Defense rolls + modifiers, then the victory is in the Attackers hand and the Defenders retreat 1 tile towards the capital. The loser of the battle will then lose infantry. The loss of Infantry depends on certain rolls. Obviously, an attacker would lose troops as well. The rolls for each side are added up and divided by 100 and the answer is how many of the troops of the opposite side are killed. Round up if need be. For example, if a Defender's rolls adds up to 78, then the Attacker loses one infantry. If the rolls add up to 147, the attacker loses 1 infantry. If the rolls add up to 200, then the attacker loses 2 infantry.

Naval battles are handled in the same way.

So basically, try not to attack uphill, try to have more infantry, dig in for incoming attacks, etc.

Four infantry units can occupy one space, as denoted by dots of the owning nation's color next to an infantry icon.

And I think that's it! I just wanted to see if it seemed feasible or not. Advice and suggestions would be lovely, as well as feedback or tips. I definitely want to know if anyone would be interested.

A few things, though. I feel like three nations is too much and would slow the game down too much. Would two nations be better?
Does the game feel lacking in some aspect?
Does it just sound plain unfun and complicated?
This is sort of like a rough draft in my mind that I wanted to get some ideas on.

Thanks for reading, regardless!

[StrawBarrel]

A few things, though. I feel like three nations is too much and would slow the game down too much. Would two nations be better?

Although three would be interesting, two would probably be more practical because there probably wouldn't be enough players. Although I have not been following Elfeater's Baron's Battle closely at all, I suspect interest in this type of game is unfortuantely low. You could always have NPC countries to filling the gap for allies and enemies.

Does the game feel lacking in some aspect?

To me it sounds fine if this game is strictly a military game. Maybe you could add different types of military units, an experience system to units, or have a commander be attached to each infantry with a different modifier to it. If you want to add more governing to the game, then you could add a national morale, a capital resource so you could use money to buy resources that you have deficits in, raise or lower taxes, and try to maintain governement services for the civilians during war time. But if you're going for simplicity, you don't have to add anything else at all.

Does it just sound plain unfun and complicated

It sounds fun and not too complicated at all. I would be interested in a game like this.

[coleslaw35]

A few things, though. I feel like three nations is too much and would slow the game down too much. Would two nations be better?

Although three would be interesting, two would probably be more practical because there probably wouldn't be enough players. Although I have not been following Elfeater's Baron's Battle closely at all, I suspect interest in this type of game is unfortuantely low. You could always have NPC countries to filling the gap for allies and enemies.

I was participating in that one for a while, but then no one else began posting so I assumed it was dead. Like you said, there may not be enough interest to run this game. You're the first person to comment, and this thread has been up for about 3 days. I'm actually not sure how you found this in the pile of forum games.

Does the game feel lacking in some aspect?

To me it sounds fine if this game is strictly a military game. Maybe you could add different types of military units, an experience system to units, or have a commander be attached to each infantry with a different modifier to it. If you want to add more governing to the game, then you could add a national morale, a capital resource so you could use money to buy resources that you have deficits in, raise or lower taxes, and try to maintain governement services for the civilians during war time. But if you're going for simplicity, you don't have to add anything else at all.

I'd likely implement an experience system and a commander system. Other than those two, I'm trying to keep this fairly simple so that (if this game starts) people participating (including me) wouldn't get too worn out of it. I was thinking of this as being a "test run" to see if I'd like to make and run more game, but again, the whole interest problem.

Does it just sound plain unfun and complicated

It sounds fun and not too complicated at all. I would be interested in a game like this.

That's great to here! Hopefully, enough people will come forward and express their interest and we'll get it going and see how things progress (hopefully well).