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Voting closed: October 11, 2015, 03:00:40 am

[Powder Miner]

Chase the guy down and beat the tar out of him with the Stick. If he starts getting away just have the Jaffa shoot him.

[GameBoyBlue]

I think I may cheated.

Are we allowed to in-character know about other character's talents?

I assumed yes to begin with, and my character knew about Dumbo's abilities.

I think we also need a consensus and canon whether or not the characters can be assumed to also have access to 'profiles' of the characters, or if who specifically have a responsibility to pretend to not know.

So, I see the cons and pros to all 3 stances, and maybe a solution?

#1) You have to pretend to NOT know about character specs
-You can't use public info tactically without creating your own reason why you have it, may feel obligated to spend turns and rolls to create an explanation on how you know

OR

#2) There is an in-canon excuse to allow you to see character specs
-Perhaps all players were briefed on current and to come competitors, requires a consistent canon which could get tricky or limit creativity. Imagine a player arrives you could have planned for but for what ever reason didn't...

OR

#3) Just leave this ambiguous as has been the case thus far
-Players may feel obligated to err on the side of NOT knowing, but other players wont feel that way. The simplest path.

I think the solution would have to be the following:
1) something that is simple
2) something that clearly defines the rule on the matter
3) something that fits with you not knowing about characters yet to come, or abilities yet to be obtained


So if we want to favor not knowing... really the info should just be PM'd to the players.

If we want to favor knowing(which obviously is the case for this session), we should clearly agree in the rules your character is ALLOWED to know about this info. You may describe how you found it or leave it ambiguous, but you can use it strategically(with no ambiguity on the subject).

Perhaps a poll is in order.

[Nanobones]

it's just a fun game, man - this isn't a life-or-death affair or a round of Mafia, and TCM's narrative is based off random rolls that minimize the consequences of metagaming

>Try the door to get behind the teller's windows. Look for an emergency kit - or a key card to the vault.

[GameBoyBlue]

it's just a fun game, man - this isn't a life-or-death affair or a round of Mafia, and TCM's narrative is based off random rolls that minimize the consequences of metagaming

>Try the door to get behind the teller's windows. Look for an emergency kit - or a key card to the vault.

Maybe you're right, I don't know.

it's just a fun game, man - this isn't a life-or-death affair or a round of Mafia, and TCM's narrative is based off random rolls that minimize the consequences of metagaming

>Try the door to get behind the teller's windows. Look for an emergency kit - or a key card to the vault.

Maybe you're right, I don't know.

You know I think I've got it.

Basically saying out loud what has been already accepted as subtext, will help those needing more explaination.

Here it is.

Fog of War(soft rule)
You don't know about what is going on with other people in other places, and what they have or can do, UNLESS you have an in-character-reason for knowing why. You will not usually get in trouble for fudging this rule, but flat out breaking it may not work.

[NAV]

Does the mace skill only work with actual maces, or does something close enough like a hammer or club work?

I must protect the Kaurava people. Andres is an Indian crime boss, his organization is likely to harm them. Search for him and shoot him if I see him.

I disagree with there being any fog of war in this game. That just wouldn't add to the fun. I'm here for reckless and creative fighting, not serious competition or roleplaying.

[GameBoyBlue]

I wasn't suggesting to add a rule. Some people, I admit to being one, have problems with subtext. I believe what wrote is actually already the case.

If I am wrong that proves my point just as much.

I have gotten fun out of this game, clarity on this would allow me to have more fun.

Edit:
What I am allowed to do greatly alters my strategy for the rest of this game. Its a competitive game, for fun yes. But I think victory means more than luck, its also strongly in part resourcefulness, but wouldn't you know it, there is a resource with unclarified privileges.

If this is left open, I am going to use that resource, very hard.

Edit:



Even Powerwalking explains that one foot must always be on the ground. This is the most subjective olympic sport, and yet even Drax could get it.



( Drax powerwalking? Now that's a visual! )

[Person]

I've already sort of followed that fog of war thing for the most part in this game. I've always made rolls to "look" for something/someone, rather than just say something like "I drive towards Andres". Basically, I try to meta-game as little as possible. However, I'm not really sure it needs to be an official rule.

Also, here's an amusing question to add to what NAV said. If they had a can of mace, would they get a bonus when they used it?

Keep looking for combatants. If I find one that isn't in a vehicle, get out and ready my weapons. If they are in a vehicle, get my S&W pistol ready covertly, but don't fire yet.

[GameBoyBlue]

I've already sort of followed that fog of war thing for the most part in this game. I've always made rolls to "look" for something/someone, rather than just say something like "I drive towards Andres".

I think OP wouldn't allow this. That's why I do believe its already a rule. But I feel should be written plainly.

[TCM]

Unless there is a large consensus, I believe that I will keep the rule as it was in the previous game in regards to character attributes; the implication is that everyone can read each other's spoilers, hence why each character's introduction includes an overview of their skills and why each article gained after a kill is announced publicly. You could even say that the game intends for you to make decisions based on your knowledge of the abilities of other players.

Because of the somewhat arbitrary (as are all games involving die) gameplay mechanics, I feel that utilizing action-stealth  would not make the game more fun or competitive. I will stop explicit metagaming, (ex. no character should know that Execute has traversed into a painting world besides GameBoyBlue and himself), but there is a limit, and I am willing to give everyone the benefit of the doubt to not metagame super hard.

One of this game's inspirations are the Arena-Combat Perplexicon Style games, which are mainly in the RTD section of the board, and which certain gameplay aspects are clearly taken from, (free-for-all combat, constant influx of new players after death, etc.) and one of the weaknesses in that style of game that I didn't enjoy was the fact that eventually every single action the players posted became secret.

Also, here's an amusing question to add to what NAV said. If they had a can of mace, would they get a bonus when they used it?

I thought about that, and it would not incur a bonus.

[GameBoyBlue]

I would appreciate a couple sentence summary of this point, in the mechanics section please.

I would appreciate a couple sentence summary of this point, in the mechanics section please.

No I think its great. It's still a little ambiguous but atleast it's been confirmed in some fashion, which is something to work with. Unfortunately theres nothing gameplay wise to motivate you to not ride the edge of being too meta, which could be done.

I understand its a sportsmanship and roleplay thing, but its also good to reinforce it back into gameplay(some form of reward for not going too meta).

I am satisfied with what has been stated, regardless.

[Megggas]

Beg the police to take me to the hospital to visit my sick aunt niece.

(Edit: Woops, lol)

[TCM]

Round 11: The Lynchin' of Fr0stByt3
Location: Denmark, Wisconsin

Powder Miner runs after the thief, waving his stick erratically in the air. (2) This proves futile as the bandit makes huge gains on him and keeps on going while Miner gets out of breath. As he breathes heavily, hands on his knees, he signals for his Jaffa to shoot the man. The Jaffa nods and puts his Laser Rifle up to his shoulder. (6 vs. 5) The Jaffa fires off two shots, the first of which misses and the second skims the thief's side, but fails to do any serious damage to him, as he is able to keep running, even faster now, until he turns around the corner and is out of shooting range and sight. Jaffa are loyal warriors and excelled at close-quarters combat, but they are not known as sharpshooters.

NAV knows that Andres crime connections likely mean that he has targeted innocent Kaurava in the past. He sets out in pursuit of Andres, ( and it only takes him a few minutes to find Andres, who is rummaging through the car of a dead person. Clear that the menace has to be stopped, NAV takes his rifle off of his back and cocks it. (1 vs. NAV opens fire into the car, destroying its windows, and front tires, as Andres cowers from the bullets. After expending nearly all of his ammo, NAV puts his gun down to see what he has accomplished. (3 vs. 10) Nothing, it seems, as Andres combat rolls out of the car and fires some retaliating pistol shots at NAV, though none of them put the Warrior in danger.

Execute and Yuri continue to search through the mansion, with the goal of hopefully coming across some painting supplies. (9) The mansion, as it turns out, does not contain any painting materials, at least in their search through the kitchen, den, ballroom, bathrooms, and multiple other fancy rooms that they can only guess the function of. What they do find is a room stocked with all sorts of artistic creations, ranging from portraits to landscapes to sculptures.

Immaterial orders his followers to dispose of their former leader through the brutal execution method of lynching. Fr0stByt3 is carried outside, limp, while rope is thrown over the branch of a nearby tree. This is the first time that some of Immaterial's followers appear hesitant to follow his orders. (7+3) "You think that I would order the death of a man out of spite? While he is alive, he is a threat to us all. If we let him live, that will only inspire the communists to rally at his side. Unless you want to fight a crimson swarm, get busy lynching!" (1) With a new sense of urgency, the activists get back to work. In their haste, too much stress is put on the tree branch and it breaks off, falling to the ground and striking one of Immaterial's followers on the skull, killing him instantly. The rest of the followers have their morale broken by this tragedy, while the rest of the crowd is in shock, looking at Immaterial like he was the cause of this needless death. (9) During all of this chaos, Fr0stByt3 manages to awaken with nothing more than some grogginess. Taking advantage of the crowd's redirected attention, he scoops up his unconscious Dog Companion and makes a run for it. (3) The dog remains unconscious.

Megggas continues to beg the police to take him to his niece, wailing the whole ride down to the station. Due to the damage of Denamrk's jail, Megggas is driven all way to Green Bay's Brown County Sheriff Department's Jail. He is escorted in forcefully, unable to escape or overpower two officers who have him tied up two ways. He is uncuffed and thrown into a jail cell while he is told he will await his trial. His cellmate is a bronze skinned scrawny man with a full beard. "Ey, what'd they get you in for?"

Nanobones tries the key to on the door to the teller's room and it works! He begins searching around for anything of use in the back, (5) and finds a whole lot of pens and envelops, not exactly the most useful items in the current circumstances. Underneath a photocopier he does find a spare $20 bill, which is something.

Person cruises around in his Austin-Healey 100, looking for a fight. As he turns a corner, a masked man carrying in a sack stumbles into his car, bounces off and continues running. Person sees two figures at the end of the road, one armed with some sort of rifle. Whatever their case may be, they are bound to be competitors. Person stops the car in front of them and gets out of the driver's side which faces opposite of the two fighters, using the car as cover, whipping out his Russian firearm.

Andres's attempts at helping the fire fighters is interrupted by an asshole trying to murder him yet again. (6 vs. 5) Andres leaps from out of his restricted space in the car and fires two shots at NAV, one of which hits him. NAV reaches down to feel his wound, which grazed his right arm but merely caused a little bleeding. [1 vs. 2) NAV dives to the ground as a rifle bullet spins through the air above him.

Breaking News: Firefighters have began to subdue the wildfire and are actively pushing it back into the forest, marking a great success and preventing the fire from damaging the already devastated town of Denmark.

Spoiler: Andres (click to show/hide)

Matthew Kasten: +2 Hairstyling, +2 Photography, +2 Wig-making
Gunda: +Pistol, +Chain Whip, Become Indian Crime Boss, +Ability: Gunda's Revenge
Andrès Landman: +3 Ice Skating, +Ice Skates
Anaheim Fire & Rescue: +2 Firefighting, +2 Medical, +Fireproof Suit, +Fire Extinguisher
Polemon christyi: +Ability: Venomous Fangs
Countryliner: +Countryliner Bus
Julio César Chávez vs. Meldrick Taylor: +2 Boxing, +1 Agility

Status: Normal
Kills: 2
Assets: Pistol [2/9], Chain Whip, Ice Skates, Fireproof Suit, Fire Extinguisher, Countryliner Bus
Abilities:
Gunda's Revenge (Passive) - Gain +2 to Offensive Rolls against anyone who kills an Ally.
Venomous Fangs - Gain Venomous Fangs.

Spoiler: Powder Miner (click to show/hide)

Stargate Worlds (Archetypes): Become Random Stargate Worlds Archetype. Result: Goa'uld - Gain +2 Stealth and a Jaffa Servant. (Jaffa - Genetically altered from human beings to be stronger, faster, tougher, and heal faster. Equipped with a Jaffa War Staff and Laser Rifle.)
Jocelyn Delecour: +2 Agility
Herr Pastor: +2 Proselytizing
Ulmus davidiana var. japonica 'Mitsui Centennial': +Ability: Cold Resistance
Nikoly Rudnev: +2 Chess

Status: Normal
Kills: 0
Assets: Jaffa Servant (Jaffa War Staff, Laser Rifle [6/6]), Small Stick
Abilities:
Cold Resistance - Natural resistance to cold weather; can stand in a snowstorm naked and be unaffected.

Spoiler: Megggas (click to show/hide)

Sugar Packet: +Box of Sugar Packets.
Bulldogs Forceps: +Bulldogs Forceps.
Sodomy:  +Ability: Wrath of God Upon the Sodomites
Joseph Gervais: +2 Trapping, +2 Exploration
Automotive Crash Injury Research Center: +Ability: Crash Resistant

Status: Face, Torso, Arms, Hands - Cut, Some Bleeding; Hand-and-Ankle-Cuffed - Restricted Movement
Kills: 0
Assets: Sugar Packets, Bulldog Forceps, Broken Table Leg, Painkillers, Molotov Cocktail, Matchbox
Abilities:
Wrath of God Upon the Sodomites - Call down a rain of holy fire and judgement upon the city or area that the User is in. The amount of destruction caused is relative to how much the 'Sin of Lust' has "corrupted" the targeted area. The Wrath will effect all players equal, including the User. One use per game. (Used)
Crash Resistant - Does not receive damage from automobile crashes and impacts.

Spoiler: Execute/Dumbo.exe (click to show/hide)

Karaindash: +2 Administration, +2 Diplomacy
Rufa Mae Quinto: +2 Acting, +2 Singing
The Other Face of Janus: +Ability: Trans-dimensional Painting Transportation
Arman Sedghi: +2 Engineering
Sviatopolk I of Kiev: +2 Military Strategy, +2 Assassination, +Loyal Boyar Subject

Status: Bruised Nose
Kills: 0
Assets: Loyal Boyar Subject (Dagger) [Face - Cut & Burned]
Abilities:
Trans-dimensional Painting Transportation - Can open up portals in paintings to travel in and out of them. A strange and enigmatic power, use it carefully.

Spoiler: Person (click to show/hide)

Peshmerga: +2 Military Combat, +PPSh-41 Sub-machine Gun, +Smith & Wesson M&P Pistol, +Military Armor, +Military Helmet
Austin-Healey 100: +Austin-Healey 100 Sports Car
Paul D. Taylor: +2 Diplomacy
Shenzhen Airlines: +2 Flight
Shantanu Khosla: +2 Business
N.O.R.A.D.: +4 Anti-Air Awareness & Combat

Status: Right Ribs - Bruised, Head - Bruised
Kills: 1
Assets: PPSh-41 Sub-machine Gun [35/35], +Smith & Wesson M&P Pistol [10/10], Military Armor, Military Helmet, Austin-Healey 100 Sports Car (Rear Window Broken), Luger Pistol [3/8]

Spoiler: Fr0stByt3 (click to show/hide)

Kathleen Nord: +2 Swimming
May 26–31, 2013 tornado outbreak: +Ability: Whirlwind
1919 Emergency National Convention: +2 Politics, +4 Radicalism, Become Communist Activist
All the Birds, Singing: +2 Herding, +Dog Companion
Gaswan Zerikly: +2 Piano, +2 Musical Composition

Status: Jaw - Bruised
Kills: 0
Assets: Dog Companion (Unconscious)
Abilities:
Whirlwind - Conjure up a small whirlwind. 1-turn Cooldown. (Ready)

Spoiler: Angelina Silva (GameBoyBlue) (click to show/hide)

Policia Judiciaria: +1 Police Combat, +2 Investigating, +2 Evidence Analysis, +Beretta 92 Pistol, +Handcuffs
The Three Musketeers: +3 Swordplay, +Rapier, +Musket, +Musketeer Uniform
Medabots: +Medabot (Short, stocky, weaponized robot.)
Bernard Evans Ward: +2 Painting
Pearl M. Hart: +2 Law

Status: Normal
Assets: Beretta 92 Pistol, Handcuffs, Rapier, Musket, Musketeer Uniform, Medabot (Twin Arm Guns, Hi-Jump Boots), Paintbrush, Long Length of Rope

Spoiler: Nanobones (click to show/hide)

Southeast Iowa Regional Airport: +2 Flying
Owain Gwynedd: +2 Administration, +2 Military Strategy
Henou: + Henou 1923 Automobile
Mailara Mahadevappa: +2 Guerrilla Warfare, +Bolt-Action WWII Rifle
Buchner Flask: +Buchner Flask

Status:Normal
Assets: Henous 1923 Automobile, M1903 Springfield Rifle [5/5], Buchner Flask, $20

Spoiler: MyNameIsImmaterial (click to show/hide)

HMS Melville (1817): +HMS Melville
Henry Corden: +2 Acting, +3 Voice Acting
House of Montefeltro: +2 Business, +2 Politics
D'Estienne d'Orves-class aviso: +D'Estienne d'Orves-class aviso
Samuel Blackall: +2 Infantry Combat, +1 Politics(+3 Total)

Status: Normal
Assets: HMS Melville, D'Estinenne d'Orves-class aviso, 7 Activists

Spoiler: NAV (click to show/hide)

Altbier: +2 Brewing, + Container of Altbier Beer
Walter Morgan: +2 Golf, +Golf Club
Vetterli Rifle: +Vetterli Rifle
Shalya: +2 Archery, +3 Maces, +2 Ancient Combat, +Abilities: Feeds Off Anger + Treachery of Duryodana
Catherine Spencer: +2 Writing, +2 Romance

Status: Right Forearm - Light Bleeding
Assets: Container of Altbier Beer, Golf Club, Vetterli Rifle [2/11]
Abilities:
Feeds Off Anger - Increases in power the angrier his opponents get.
Treachery of Duryodana - Must fight for the benefit of the Kaurava People.

Clarifications have been added to the mechanics.

[Execute/Dumbo.exe]

Le'see here, start checking through the paintings, any ones that have some sort of weapon in the background or foreground? Medical supplies, perhaps some protective clothing? I'll settle for a portal into some kind of military bunker, too, anything that seems imminently useful, if there is anything like that, open a portal to one that doesn't seem like it would have any people in it.
((This can be a free action, right?))

[pikorge]

can you put me back on the waitlist please?

[NAV]

"You'll pay for what you've probably done to the Kaurava people!"

Switch to my trusty golf club and try to use mace techniques or at least ancient combat techniques to kill Andres.